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TG1996 wrote:
Falcons4Life wrote:And one more thing.....it looks like Toledo has done everything in their power to stay away from the big ten....2009 is their first game!
Unless you count Purdue in 2007. :?

And realize that with only three OOC games on each of those schedules, there's one more game to fill each year that EVERYONE is still looking to fill since the 12th game was approved relatively recently.
You are correct on this. Keep in mind that Toledo has never backed away from Big Ten opponents. We were the first MAC school to host a Big Ten team when we did a one and done against Indiana in the Glass Bowl in 1996.....similar to what BG is getting with Minnesota being a one and done home game.

We also hosted Purdue in 1997 and Minnesota in 2001. We played at Ohio State in 1998 when they were ranked #1 in the country and we played at Penn State in 2000.

We have been after Michigan State for years, but they keep turning us down. We want a home game, and even offered a 3 for 1 deal and they keep turning it down because they don't want to play at Toledo...probably don't want to play at any MAC school for that matter.

We do play Purdue again in 2007 at Toledo, with games at Purdue in 2009 and 2010.

Many of the Big Ten teams wanted at least 2 for 1 or 1 game only at their place deals before this new MAC/Big Ten scheduling agreement, so who could blame UT for scheduling home and home deals with Iowa State, Fresno State, and Boise State.....along with a 2 for 1 with Kansas?

Now that there is a MAC/Big Ten scheduling agreement and since UT is still looking for additional opponents pretty much every year I think you will see a Big Ten team or two pop up on UT's schedule.

I also hear that the 2008 game at Ohio State is still a possibility, but we told them they have to offer us more money then they were willing to pay when they talked to us last summer about it. If they are willing to pay BG more money, then they should be willing to pay us more money as well......and if we don't accept less from them we shouldn't be labeled because we are standing up for ourselves and not letting them low ball us.
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rocketfootball wrote:We played at Ohio State in 1998 when they were ranked #1 in the country
"played" is a very subjective term in this case... :wink:

Although I *did* catch a pass in that game.
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"If they are willing to pay BG more money, then they should be willing to pay us more money as well......and if we don't accept less from them we shouldn't be labeled because we are standing up for ourselves and not letting them low ball us."

Can't argue that point. UT should get the same payout as BG, IMO.
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rocketfootball wrote:We were the first MAC school to host a Big Ten team when we did a one and done against Indiana in the Glass Bowl in 1996
Do you have some proof of this? Seems unlikely that a Big Ten school had NEVER visited a MAC school before 1996. I know you are always correct, but this just seems rather unlikely.
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Redwingtom wrote:
rocketfootball wrote:We were the first MAC school to host a Big Ten team when we did a one and done against Indiana in the Glass Bowl in 1996
Do you have some proof of this? Seems unlikely that a Big Ten school had NEVER visited a MAC school before 1996. I know you are always correct, but this just seems rather unlikely.
Well, at the risk of being accused of sleeping with the enemy, I'll have to back up rocketfootball's claim. A few 21st century Big Tenleven @ MAC stadium games ...

2005: Indiana @ CMU
2003: Minnesota @ Ohio
2002: Iowa @ Miami

But couldn't find anything predating the '97 Purdue @ Toledo game. Interesting tidbits ...

Ohio State played @ Cincy before and after the Bearcats were in the MAC, but not during that time. Ohio State also played @ Akron, but that was way back in 1891 (Akron lost 6-0, BTW).

Penn State also played @ Cincy before and after the Bearcats were in the MAC, but not during that time. Penn State has played @ Temple many times and will probably do so many more after the Owls enter the MAC.

Purdue played @ Cincy after the Bearcats left the MAC.
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Redwingtom wrote:
rocketfootball wrote:We were the first MAC school to host a Big Ten team when we did a one and done against Indiana in the Glass Bowl in 1996
Do you have some proof of this? Seems unlikely that a Big Ten school had NEVER visited a MAC school before 1996. I know you are always correct, but this just seems rather unlikely.
Technically Rf is incorrect, but for all intents and purposes he's really correct considering that the only games the MAC hosted prior to UT recent run occured over 100 years ago. In fact, UT is the only MAC school that has had multiple games against Big 10 opponents in thier stadium. I'm not going to go into any clarifications as to the age of the conferences, because as we are all aware form previous thread the MAC wasn't formed until 1946 and the Big 10 was something like 1895. And PSU didn't join up until '93 with the Big 10.

Akron - OSU in 1891
BSU - Never
BGSU -Never
CMU - Indiana in 2005
EMU - MSU in 1898
KSU - Never
Miami - Iowa in 2002
NIU - Never
OU - Minnesota in 2003
UT - Indiana in 1996; Purdue in 1997; Minnesota in 2001
WMU - Never
UB - PSU in 1900
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UK Peregrine wrote:
Redwingtom wrote:
rocketfootball wrote:We were the first MAC school to host a Big Ten team when we did a one and done against Indiana in the Glass Bowl in 1996
Do you have some proof of this? Seems unlikely that a Big Ten school had NEVER visited a MAC school before 1996. I know you are always correct, but this just seems rather unlikely.
Technically Rf is incorrect, but for all intents and purposes he's really correct considering that the only games the MAC hosted prior to UT recent run occured over 100 years ago. In fact, UT is the only MAC school that has had multiple games against Big 10 opponents in thier stadium.

Akron - OSU in 1891
BSU - Never
BGSU -Never
CMU - Indiana in 2005
EMU - MSU in 1898
KSU - Never
Miami - Iowa in 2002
NIU - Never
OU - Minnesota in 2003
UT - Indiana in 1996; Purdue in 1997; Minnesota in 2001
WMU - Never
UB - PSU in 1900
After this season, you can add Ball State to the list as they host Indiana this year.
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Redwingtom wrote:
rocketfootball wrote:We were the first MAC school to host a Big Ten team when we did a one and done against Indiana in the Glass Bowl in 1996
Do you have some proof of this? Seems unlikely that a Big Ten school had NEVER visited a MAC school before 1996. I know you are always correct, but this just seems rather unlikely.
It must be factman's alter ego. I got this from the UT media guide a few years back, among other sources. Just because I like you better than factman, I might look online for evidence of this later today for ya.
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UK Peregrine wrote:
Redwingtom wrote:
rocketfootball wrote:We were the first MAC school to host a Big Ten team when we did a one and done against Indiana in the Glass Bowl in 1996
Do you have some proof of this? Seems unlikely that a Big Ten school had NEVER visited a MAC school before 1996. I know you are always correct, but this just seems rather unlikely.
Technically Rf is incorrect, but for all intents and purposes he's really correct considering that the only games the MAC hosted prior to UT recent run occured over 100 years ago. In fact, UT is the only MAC school that has had multiple games against Big 10 opponents in thier stadium. I'm not going to go into any clarifications as to the age of the conferences, because as we are all aware form previous thread the MAC wasn't formed until 1946 and the Big 10 was something like 1895. And PSU didn't join up until '93 with the Big 10.

Akron - OSU in 1891
BSU - Never
BGSU -Never
CMU - Indiana in 2005
EMU - MSU in 1898
KSU - Never
Miami - Iowa in 2002
NIU - Never
OU - Minnesota in 2003
UT - Indiana in 1996; Purdue in 1997; Minnesota in 2001
WMU - Never
UB - PSU in 1900
Incorrect/correct. Maybe I should have worded it correctly. My meaning was while a school was in the MAC. Of course you can go back to the 1800's and use Akron and EMU (Buffalo in 1900 as well), but it was not when they were in the MAC and that was what I meant by my definition of a "MAC school."

Not to get technical, Toledo hosted Michigan in 1928.......but it was their JV team. The game was played in Toledo though and is the only meeting between Toledo and a University of Michigan team in football. We also hosted Ohio State's JV team in 1932.

I know they are not a Big Ten team, but UT also hosted Notre Dame's JV team in 1923......the only meeting between Toledo and a Notre Dame team in football.
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I've not read this entire thread, but I will say this - we are so focused on playing Big 10 teams, and it is clear that some teams want to play us because of the recruiting potential of playing in Ohio. I say screw the Big 10! Go after the PAC 10! There are a ton of teams in the PAC 10 that are not only beatable, but that should be desperate to recruit Ohio. Teams like Arizona, Washington, Washington State and Oregon State could desperately use some corn-fed Ohio boys on their lines and in their backfields, and I think it would be a fairly easy sell to them to get some 1 and 1's with the new 12-game schedule. I realize that we play Arizona State (the bastards) in 2007, but I think it would behoove a lot of MAC teams to go after some of these lesser-powers in the PAC 10. They are both recognizable and would not be "out of our league" competatively.

In fact, playing out West here would actually help our recruiting to some degree. We already get players from out West - Ruben Ruiz comes to mind (Oro Valley, AZ). I think there would be mutal benefit for all parties involved.

Just a thought.

* - and no, I didn't mean screw the Big 10 altogether. Just saying that we should not limit oursevles.
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rocketfootball wrote:Incorrect/correct. Maybe I should have worded it correctly. My meaning was while a school was in the MAC. Of course you can go back to the 1800's and use Akron and EMU (Buffalo in 1900 as well), but it was not when they were in the MAC and that was what I meant by my definition of a "MAC school."
I agree with you whole-heartedly. The games (Akron, EMU, and UB) listed prior to the MAC's establishment are largely irrelevant and were included to show that at least future MAC teams hosted Big 10 teams in the very distant past. I was really just getting tired of typing NEVER next to each MAC school, so I had to include those games to make me feel better. Toledo should get all of the credit in the world for jump starting the current trend of MAC teams thinking they can get a Big 10 schools or other conferences (e.g. Big12 and Big East) to come to their respective houses.
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