Colorado To Play In Oxford in 2009

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:28 pm

[quote="MatelaAntwerp

try to get a 1 and 1 with wisconsin or indiana at bg then[/quote]

As much as a 1 and 1 with Indiana would rock the world of Falcon fans across the globe, I like the current arrangement just fine, thank you.

Sweets9 · Post by **Sweets9** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:50 pm

No way Wisky would play us H & H if they had to play in the Doyt and why would our Athletic Department throw away all that extra money? Yeah it'd be great to get Wisky at the Doyt, but our athletic department needs the money.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:52 pm

Sweets9 wrote:... but our athletic department needs the money.

Geez, when did we become a charity case?

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:55 pm

1987alum wrote:
Sweets9 wrote:... but our athletic department needs the money.
Geez, when did we become a charity case?

When they started playing Erector set with the north endzone.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:13 pm

JoeFalcon wrote:
Warthog wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote: I'd be far more excited to play a team that just beat a nine-win Auburn team in a January 1st bowl game in an almost brand new NFL facility than a program caked in negative publicity on the rebound in Yeager.
Discounting the status of either/any program, it is a much better deal to play a 1 for 1 series with a BCS school while hosting your home game in your own stadium then hosting your 'home' game in a stadium 125 miles away. Period. There is no arguing this topic.
Really?

I don't think you can discount the status of the programs and just slap BCS on all of them ignoring both their prowess and their position in the college football landscape. Is USC the same as Indiana? In terms of perception and PR, is Duke lacrosse just another NCAA lacrosse program? These factors are not so easily discounted.

It is equally silly to pretend Cleveland is just some distant outpost 125 miles away and not one of the epicenters of BGSU alumni presence and activity, not to mention the fact that Cleveland Browns Stadium is slightly more unique type of venue to hold such a contest.

This self-loathing, grass-is-greener mentality over everything is amazing.

You can split hairs over the status of the schools, but in reality there are only a few BCS schools that will go on the road to play a MAC team. USC is not one of them. Getting one of those to come into your home stadium is an infinitely better deal them having to 'host' them on a neutral field.

I don't mind playing at CBS if it is truly a neutral site game, such as an Ohio MAC team playing one of the service academies each year. That is fine. But to give up a game is your own stadium to play there is not what I would prefer.

I know we have a large alumni base in the Cleveland area. But if, as you put it, Cleveland is not some distant outpost, then the reverse should be true. BG should not be some distant outpost to Clevelanders. Why can't they make it back to campus to see a game at the Doyt? Or should we start 'hosting' game where any of our alums are located? I am sure Karl would love to see us 'hosting' a game in Philly each year. Or Dayon's Den would love a game down in South Carolina. Sorry, but that is not how things should be done.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:20 pm

Getting Colorado in Oxford is great for Miami. Hey, they hosted Iowa a couple years ago. I love the fact that Minnesota is coming to the Doyt in a couple years. Ohio U hosted Minny in recent years.

I love the game vs Wisky at CBS. The biggest BCS teams will rarely, if ever, play at a non BCS school. OSU, Michigan, Penn State, USC, Miami, FSU, Texas...these schools will never do that. Getting the lower to mid tier BCS schools at MAC stadiums should be the goal. Look at UT....they have Kansas coming in to the GB this season. Miami has NW in Oxford. I know everyone would love to see Wisky at the Doyt but that ain't gonna happen...at least not at this time.

It's almost time....GO FALCONS!!!

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:22 pm

Warthog wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote:
Warthog wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote: I'd be far more excited to play a team that just beat a nine-win Auburn team in a January 1st bowl game in an almost brand new NFL facility than a program caked in negative publicity on the rebound in Yeager.
Discounting the status of either/any program, it is a much better deal to play a 1 for 1 series with a BCS school while hosting your home game in your own stadium then hosting your 'home' game in a stadium 125 miles away. Period. There is no arguing this topic.
Really?

I don't think you can discount the status of the programs and just slap BCS on all of them ignoring both their prowess and their position in the college football landscape. Is USC the same as Indiana? In terms of perception and PR, is Duke lacrosse just another NCAA lacrosse program? These factors are not so easily discounted.

It is equally silly to pretend Cleveland is just some distant outpost 125 miles away and not one of the epicenters of BGSU alumni presence and activity, not to mention the fact that Cleveland Browns Stadium is slightly more unique type of venue to hold such a contest.

This self-loathing, grass-is-greener mentality over everything is amazing.
I know we have a large alumni base in the Cleveland area. But if, as you put it, Cleveland is not some distant outpost, then the reverse should be true. BG should not be some distant outpost to Clevelanders. Why can't they make it back to campus to see a game at the Doyt?

That is a great point, WH. Very valid, IMO.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:22 pm

Falconfreak90 wrote: It's almost time....GO FALCONS!!!

Players report on Aug 4. First practice on the 5th.

brianthedog · Post by **brianthedog** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:54 pm

Two things:
1. Minnesota is lucky to get 35K to 40K at home games, so there is no possibility that thousands of Gopher fans will be beating down the door trying to scrounge up tickets. They will be lucky to sell their allotment--but it could be worse, IU couldn't even sell their allotment of tickets for their game at Camp Randall last year.

2. Wisconsin should bring in excess of 15K (conservative estimate) to CBS. I know others have said this, but there is no way in hell Barry would have agreed to a home and home at Doyt.

Sweets9 · Post by **Sweets9** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:05 pm

I think it's completely obvious that most, if not all of us would prefer to play Wisconsin at the Doyt. That's not the issue. All aspects need to be lookd at. Say what you want, money is a huge issue. Do you have any idea how much more money we'll make having this at Cleveland than we would having it at the Doyt? Also, BG should not be seen as some distant outpost, but it is by many. It is not a two-way street.

This is a business and you go where the green is. Sad, but true.

BGSUfalcons · Post by **BGSUfalcons** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:28 pm

Warthog wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote:
Warthog wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote: I'd be far more excited to play a team that just beat a nine-win Auburn team in a January 1st bowl game in an almost brand new NFL facility than a program caked in negative publicity on the rebound in Yeager.
Discounting the status of either/any program, it is a much better deal to play a 1 for 1 series with a BCS school while hosting your home game in your own stadium then hosting your 'home' game in a stadium 125 miles away. Period. There is no arguing this topic.
Really?

I don't think you can discount the status of the programs and just slap BCS on all of them ignoring both their prowess and their position in the college football landscape. Is USC the same as Indiana? In terms of perception and PR, is Duke lacrosse just another NCAA lacrosse program? These factors are not so easily discounted.

It is equally silly to pretend Cleveland is just some distant outpost 125 miles away and not one of the epicenters of BGSU alumni presence and activity, not to mention the fact that Cleveland Browns Stadium is slightly more unique type of venue to hold such a contest.

This self-loathing, grass-is-greener mentality over everything is amazing.
You can split hairs over the status of the schools, but in reality there are only a few BCS schools that will go on the road to play a MAC team. USC is not one of them. Getting one of those to come into your home stadium is an infinitely better deal them having to 'host' them on a neutral field.

I don't mind playing at CBS if it is truly a neutral site game, such as an Ohio MAC team playing one of the service academies each year. That is fine. But to give up a game is your own stadium to play there is not what I would prefer.

I know we have a large alumni base in the Cleveland area. But if, as you put it, Cleveland is not some distant outpost, then the reverse should be true. BG should not be some distant outpost to Clevelanders. Why can't they make it back to campus to see a game at the Doyt? Or should we start 'hosting' game where any of our alums are located? I am sure Karl would love to see us 'hosting' a game in Philly each year. Or Dayon's Den would love a game down in South Carolina. Sorry, but that is not how things should be done.

A bit hyperbolic, don't you think? I fancy that Cleveland has a much larger alumni base than either Philly or the entire state of South Carolina. Is playing Wisconsin in Cleveland better than playing Indiana at the Doyt? I don't know. Still, I imagine that trying to reinvigorate (or should I write ‘invigorate’?) Cleveland based fans so that they will be more likely to follow the team and come to the Doyt in the future is part of the method to the athletic department's madness..

DevilGrad · Post by **DevilGrad** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:46 pm

TG1996 wrote:
orangeandbrown wrote:Playing Colorado on your home field is a bigger deal than playing Wisconsin on a neutral field. Glass has as much water in it as it does.
We're scheduled to have Minnesota at the Doyt on or before the time Colorado plays at Miami(OH). At this point, I'd have to give Minny the nod over Colorado as far as opponents go, although both can be classified as good gets.

Miami had already scheduled Minnesota as a future home opponent. In fact, that game will be moved to a different season to make room for Colorado.

redskins4ever · Post by **redskins4ever** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:22 pm

Miami's stadium only holds 26K post renovations.

H2Ofalcon77 · Post by **H2Ofalcon77** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:06 pm

Miami goes to Colorado in 07......
No mention what the buyout amount is for the 09 game.

alot can change in college football in 3 years - aka Boise State game

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:19 pm

I am curious, will we be making by playing a game at CBS?

I wonder what the break even number is for attendance. I would think we don't keep any of the concessions or parking revenue and we probably had to pay a rental fee, right? Just curious what those numbers are and what they will actually materialize as come September.