Domino Effect to hit BG?

[BGSUfanatUT]

yeah barring a massive pay increase by another offer, I think he is sure to stay. He knows the talent we have and Omar is blantantly the best QB he will see for the next 3 years. Its hard to leave that. Urban got a sweet cash money deal as well as good telent at UTah when he got there, so he knew he would be successful. Brandon going to a washington or another program that is in dire NEED of a coach to boost the program will likely not apeal to him...unless for the money like I said, in which case, you can blame no one for leaving.

[Class of 61]

Smith has to be nearly 70 -- I think we need someone younger --

Manager, Since Larry Smith and I went to BG at the same time, I "resent' the "nearly 70" quote... I'll be 65 on next birthday...don't stretch it out and make it worse.

Seriously, I agree that he probably wouldn't be the right choice.. I think, whether we like it or not, that BG and the MAC in general, will continue to be a steppingstone for younger coaches on the way up.

But I still maintain that I WANT Brandon to stay on for at least 2-3 yrs. We've got to develop some continuity. As to former Falcons possibly available to become head coaches some day, you have an OC on current staff who would fit that situation. 8)

[mualum78]

I don't think its attendance that keeps coaches at the MAC. Most of these guys want to advance their careers, just like the rest of us. And the MAC is a stepping stone for qualtiy coaches who want to coach larger programs. We have to hope for coaches who played in the MAC and want to stay in the MAC. NIU's coach, Joe Novak, played for Bo at Miami. He's not going anywhere.

Lack of bowl games also hurts the MAC. Randy Walker, a Miami Alumni - Ohio Native (Troy, Ohio - My hometown) loved coaching at Miami, loved the MAC, and was a quality coach. He would still be at Miami if not for the shaft the MAC gets at Bowl time. His last season at Miami, they went 10-1 and did not get a bowl bid. He wept at his good-bye news conference. If memory serves me right he now has the most wins of any Miami Coach, including Woody, Bo, Ara, Webb, Pont.

A better question might be - Who out there coaching, who played for BG, might want to return home to lead us into continued glory?

Your memory serves you well Tech83, that is correct! Notwithstanding the Bowl bid situation, Randy also wanted to advance his career. What better way to do that than to coach at a Big Ten school? You can't blame him for leaving Miami. We don't.

[OptionQB]

Just some names and jobs to keep an eye on over the next few months that could drop a domino very very close to the offices at Doyt L. Perry Stadium . . .

Jobs
-Florida
-Utah
-UNLV
-Louisville
-Washington
-California
-Iowa
-West Virginia
-Mississippi

Names
-Urban Meyer
-Bobby Petrino
-Jeff Tedford
-Kirk Ferentz
-Paul Petrino
-David Cutcliffe
-Dave Baldwin
-Mike Sanford

The jobs are easy to figure out. Florida is open and the four most likely names you hear are Urban Meyer, Jeff Tedford (Cal), Rich Rodriguez (WVU) and Bobby Petrino (Louisville). If any of those guys leave . . . Attractive jobs open up with the right offense already in place.

ESPN has thrown Kirk Ferentz's name into the mix at Florida as well. The Iowa head coach may get calls from the NFL as well. You have to assume that Oklahoma OC, Chuck Long, a former Hawkeye QB would get the first call, but if he likes Norman . . . the pieces are again in place.

Brandon has already been mentioned as a candidate in Vegas and didn't exactly go out of his way to say "no thanks."

The connection to Oxford, Mississippi and David Cutcliffe is a harder one to make, but going 11-3 and 10-2 (hopefully) in your first two years as a head coach is going to turn heads, despite what a certain message board says about him. Cutcliffe is in major job jeopardy after failing to fulfill all of the "promise" of the Eli Manning years and completely falling off the map this year in the always-competitive SEC.

I think the jump from Bowling Green to Washington is a bit of a stretch as well, but once again, it's in the West and that's where his ties are. The case gets much less complicated if Dan Hawkins decides he has something to prove at Boise State.

Paul Petrino, Dave Baldwin and Mike Sanford are all leading candidates according to the Register News in Las Vegas as well. Paul is brother Bobby's offensive coordinator and would take over at Louisville or go to Florida if that becomes a possibility.

Dave Baldwin is the Offensive Coordinator at Michigan State and has the California connections that UNLV likes, but Brandon has effectively recruited California JUCOs all the way to Bowling Green as well.

Mike Sanford is the Offensive Coordinator at Utah and would likely accompany Urban to Gainsville as well with Kyle Wittingham sticking around Salt Lake City to take over the helm.

All the jobs are connected and the dominos will fall, the real interesting part is how close to Bowling Green will they fall . . .

[MIAMI HATER]

As much as it pains me to say this, Terry Hoeppner will draw more attention than Brandon. This is clearly good for us. His stay 7+ years is more than the cradle typically likes... it used to be four and out until Walker and Hoeppner.

[OptionQB]

Someone with knowledge correct me, but Hoeppner has Miami ties and was a longtime assistant before taking over. Brandon has basically no ties to BG other than a paycheck which could be doubled or tripled soon.

[mualum78]

You are correct, TH has Miami ties and was an assistant prior to becoming head coach. Sorry it took so long to reply...was up in BG to watch my second favorite MAC team, the Falcons, dismantle WMU. Omar looked good, enjoyed watching him. His line gives him time and he seems to make good decisions for a young player. Not that WMU gave BG strong opposition, but BG played very well with the exception of a few bonehead penalties. I thought they gave up a little too much rushing yardage but very good secondary coverage. The interceptions were key because they stopped some drives and prevented what could have been scores. Good luck with Marshall next week...I like BG's chances. Wish I could come up for that one, but I have other obligations!

[Tech83]

Someone with knowledge correct me, but Hoeppner has Miami ties and was a longtime assistant before taking over. Brandon has basically no ties to BG other than a paycheck which could be doubled or tripled soon.

Hoep has been at Miami for 19 years. He came as an assistant under Tim Rose and stayed under Walker. He is about 57 years old and as long as he continues to win at Miami, will probably retire at Miami. I don't see him leaving for another gig. Oxford is a beautiful little town and a nice place to raise a family and retire.

Weeb Ewbank retired in Oxford and lived out his life there.

I doubt that they (Miami) will bring Zook back home to coach either.

[BGBreeze]

I don't think its attendance that keeps coaches at the MAC. Most of these guys want to advance their careers, just like the rest of us. And the MAC is a stepping stone for qualtiy coaches who want to coach larger programs. We have to hope for coaches who played in the MAC and want to stay in the MAC. NIU's coach, Joe Novak, played for Bo at Miami. He's not going anywhere.

Lack of bowl games also hurts the MAC. Randy Walker, a Miami Alumni - Ohio Native (Troy, Ohio - My hometown) loved coaching at Miami, loved the MAC, and was a quality coach. He would still be at Miami if not for the shaft the MAC gets at Bowl time. His last season at Miami, they went 10-1 and did not get a bowl bid. He wept at his good-bye news conference. If memory serves me right he now has the most wins of any Miami Coach, including Woody, Bo, Ara, Webb, Pont.

A better question might be - Who out there coaching, who played for BG, might want to return home to lead us into continued glory?

Gentlemen..... How about our own Offensive Coordinator Coach Stud!!!!!!

[hammb]

I don't think its attendance that keeps coaches at the MAC. Most of these guys want to advance their careers, just like the rest of us. And the MAC is a stepping stone for qualtiy coaches who want to coach larger programs. We have to hope for coaches who played in the MAC and want to stay in the MAC. NIU's coach, Joe Novak, played for Bo at Miami. He's not going anywhere.

Lack of bowl games also hurts the MAC. Randy Walker, a Miami Alumni - Ohio Native (Troy, Ohio - My hometown) loved coaching at Miami, loved the MAC, and was a quality coach. He would still be at Miami if not for the shaft the MAC gets at Bowl time. His last season at Miami, they went 10-1 and did not get a bowl bid. He wept at his good-bye news conference. If memory serves me right he now has the most wins of any Miami Coach, including Woody, Bo, Ara, Webb, Pont.

A better question might be - Who out there coaching, who played for BG, might want to return home to lead us into continued glory?

Gentlemen..... How about our own Offensive Coordinator Coach Stud!!!!!!

Oh god no...

Stud is a good OL coach. He appears to be in over his head at times as an OC. I certainly wouldn't want to see what he looks like at HC!

If we are going to have a head coaching search I want to find another Urban Meyer. Some fiery young guy who can come in here and continue what we've been building. I don't believe that the next Urban Meyer is on our current staff.

[transfer2BGSU]

If we are going to have a head coaching search I want to find another Urban Meyer. Some fiery young guy who can come in here and continue what we've been building. I don't believe that the next Urban Meyer is on our current staff.

Well if we're going to be searching for another Urban Meyer, can we at least get someone that knows how to SMILE every now and then? And someone that didn't read the "Lou Holtz Don't Say A Damn Thing Positive About Your Team" book?

I dreaded going to Falcon Club luncheons in the fall knowing he would be there with that damn frown and nothing positive to say. It was always, "We still have a long way to go..." or "Before we become a good team..."

[hammb]

If we are going to have a head coaching search I want to find another Urban Meyer. Some fiery young guy who can come in here and continue what we've been building. I don't believe that the next Urban Meyer is on our current staff.

Well if we're going to be searching for another Urban Meyer, can we at least get someone that knows how to SMILE every now and then? And someone that didn't read the "Lou Holtz Don't Say A Damn Thing Positive About Your Team" book?

I dreaded going to Falcon Club luncheons in the fall knowing he would be there with that damn frown and nothing positive to say. It was always, "We still have a long way to go..." or "Before we become a good team..."

Funny because that's EXACTLY the quality I look for in a HC. I want my HC to never be happy. Even in 70 point wins there are mistakes that can be corrected, and I want that sort of attitude. That's the attitude that can lead towards perfection and championships.

Positivity is for the fans. Coaches getting positive in the public can only serve to undermine what they're trying to preach to their teams.

[BGBreeze]

Gentlemen..... How about our own Offensive Coordinator Coach Stud!!!!!![/quote]

"Oh god no...

Stud is a good OL coach. He appears to be in over his head at times as an OC. I certainly wouldn't want to see what he looks like at HC!

If we are going to have a head coaching search I want to find another Urban Meyer. Some fiery young guy who can come in here and continue what we've been building. I don't believe that the next Urban Meyer is on our current staff.[/quote]"

I disagree, Coach Studrawa is a coach that players want to play for, he is a Bowling Green guy and will probably be here for 20 years. Do you really want to get another hot shot young coach in here who will only want to stay until a "better" coaching opportunity calls. Bowling Green will be a revolving door for heads coaches looking to make a name for themselves.

Coach Stud would bring a stability to Bowling Green. And how can you say he is in over his head? The guy is the OC to one of the most potent offenses in college football!

[hammb]

Gentlemen..... How about our own Offensive Coordinator Coach Stud!!!!!!

"Oh god no...

Stud is a good OL coach. He appears to be in over his head at times as an OC. I certainly wouldn't want to see what he looks like at HC!

If we are going to have a head coaching search I want to find another Urban Meyer. Some fiery young guy who can come in here and continue what we've been building. I don't believe that the next Urban Meyer is on our current staff.[/quote]"

I disagree, Coach Studrawa is a coach that players want to play for, he is a Bowling Green guy and will probably be here for 20 years. Do you really want to get another hot shot young coach in here who will only want to stay until a "better" coaching opportunity calls. Bowling Green will be a revolving door for heads coaches looking to make a name for themselves.

Coach Stud would bring a stability to Bowling Green. And how can you say he is in over his head? The guy is the OC to one of the most potent offenses in college football![/quote]

There have been numerous times in the past that our offense has completely gone into a shell (against OSU, Oklahoma, NIU). He appears quite fine calling plays against the likes of Temple, EMU, etc, but when we get into big games our offensive playcalling has a tendency to be very weak, IMO. I don't know if it was his call or Brandon's, but putting PJ Pope in to take a direct snap really upset me Saturday, and was about the only thing the entire game. When you march the opening kickoff 90+ yards, why go to some stupid gimmick to punch it in? You risk getting your QB hurt on the outside, you risk a botch snap from someone not used to receiving shotgun snaps, and it just seems stupid for such risks when your offense got you that far in the first place. Just run the offense, and stop trying to be cute!

Secondly, Yes, I do want BG to be a revolving door of head coaches. It is the only way to ensure consistent program success. Let's face it, if we have a good HC he will be gone within 4 years because we cannot pay him enough. If we get a coach for 10-15 years its a pretty sure bet to me that we don't have a great coach. We will never have stabiliized greatness at BG until we can pay a competitive salary & offer a shot at the national title, and I don't see that happening any time soon.

[Flipper]

Look at the schools in the MAC who occupy the top echelon with us (Miami, UT, NIU and Marshall) they all have coaches who have been there for awhile and who are not looking to go anywhere else.

While there's something to be said for keeping things fresh, there's more to be said for finding a guy who can win and who is willing to stay for awhile. For every Urban Meyer, there's a ton of young assistants who find out that they aren't ready to be a head coach by failing.