Spring Depth Chart is out.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:49 pm

It's not like the NFL. These are kids. Kids develop at different paces and some reach their ceiling at 18...some reach it at 22. If you think you can sort htose kids out form each other...give collegiate coaching a shot. Brandon recruits football payers. If some of those players develop skill sets that make them better suited for another spot, so be it.

Honestly, Warthog...I think you'd criticize the sky for being blue if you could tie it to Gregg Brandon.

moneymaker02 · Post by **moneymaker02** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:55 pm

i wouldnt be to suprised to see tyrone pronty starting over marques parks just like he was at the end of last year. im still shocked that parks is even starting, the guy is a wuss that gets alligator arms everytime the ball is thrown to him.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:57 pm

Flipper wrote:Honestly, Warthog...I think you'd criticize the sky for being blue if you could tie it to Gregg Brandon.

Flipper used an emoticon? Does that mean you really aren't being sarcastic?

Seriously, I'm not accusing Brandon necessarily. But the entire staff must be using this logic. I'm just saying I don't think I agree with it. I hope it works though.

reyray82 · Post by **reyray82** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:30 pm

Warren Sapp started his career at Miami as a TE. Lets wait and see how players adjust to the change before we critique.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:33 pm

reyray82 wrote:Warren Sapp started his career at Miami as a TE. Lets wait and see how players adjust to the change before we critique.

And while we're at it, let us all admit that we are not now, nor have any of us ever been a coach at the DI collegiate level. It is fun to pick at nits when things like this come out, and some of us may question the coaches' abilities, but in all reality, we've never been in a position to evaluate talent at such a microscopic level as is required to produce a (realistic) depth chart. Get up from in front of your computer, put your pants on, go to a mirror and admit to yourself that you aren't a football coach.

Internet gurus unite!

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:19 am

reyray82 wrote:Warren Sapp started his career at Miami as a TE. Lets wait and see how players adjust to the change before we critique.

Jamaal Anderson was recruited as a WR at Arkansas. On Aprill 27 he'll be a top ten pick in the NFL draft at DE

(I do use them occasionally warthog)

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:21 am

Bleeding Orange wrote:
reyray82 wrote:Warren Sapp started his career at Miami as a TE. Lets wait and see how players adjust to the change before we critique.
And while we're at it, let us all admit that we are not now, nor have any of us ever been a coach at the DI collegiate level. It is fun to pick at nits when things like this come out, and some of us may question the coaches' abilities, but in all reality, we've never been in a position to evaluate talent at such a microscopic level as is required to produce a (realistic) depth chart. Get up from in front of your computer, put your pants on, go to a mirror and admit to yourself that you aren't a football coach.

Internet gurus unite!

Put my pants on? Oh, man.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:46 am

Flipper wrote:
reyray82 wrote:Warren Sapp started his career at Miami as a TE. Lets wait and see how players adjust to the change before we critique.
Jamaal Anderson was recruited as a WR at Arkansas. On Aprill 27 he'll be a top ten pick in the NFL draft at DE (I do use them occasionally warthog)

I think his stock has slipped a bit. He'll more likely land in the 15-25 pick range, not that it changes your point

Seriously, this sort of thing does happen at nearly every school. The only thing I don't like is how often we seem to make these changes to upperclassmen giving them almost no time to adapt to the change. In some cases these guys end up leaving the team or being stuck deep on the depth chart (Van Johnson) and never really make an impact at their new position. Perhaps they never would've made an impact at their other position either, I dunno, but it gives us something else to bitch about when we cannot be watching football

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:45 pm

Van Johnson had a shot at DB...I think they parked him there for at least a couple of years. He was passed on the depth chart by freshmen..moving around guys like Johsnosn and Will Myles isn't that big of a deal, they were depth guys. We have moved guys around furtherup the depth chart here for a long time. Craig Jarrett was FB, then a TE. Andy Grubb played DL and finished his last year or two on the OL. IIRC....Robert Haley was a DL before moving to OL his last two years.

We've done this sort of thing in the past and it seems to have worked out OK...

Spart43 · Post by **Spart43** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:14 pm

Warthog wrote:Another observation: ALL the WRs have changed positions. That may not seem like a big deal, but I think it is. Each position lends itself to certain characteristics. One goes over the middle more, one lines up outside and is the deep threat, one is probably designed to be more of a lead blocker on a lot of plays. And of course, there are different reads when lining up at new positions. So I think we have a big learning curve ahead of us at WR again.

Actually Corey didn't move anywhere, he is still at the H.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:17 pm

Spart43 wrote:
Warthog wrote:Another observation: ALL the WRs have changed positions. That may not seem like a big deal, but I think it is. Each position lends itself to certain characteristics. One goes over the middle more, one lines up outside and is the deep threat, one is probably designed to be more of a lead blocker on a lot of plays. And of course, there are different reads when lining up at new positions. So I think we have a big learning curve ahead of us at WR again.

Actually Corey didn't move anywhere, he is still at the H.

Well, my last depth chart from last season (11/18/06) showed Corey at the 'E'.

It shows Freddie at the 'H'.

MarkL · Post by **MarkL** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:02 pm

The learning curve for receivers won't be that bad this season. I remember a couple of articles on bgsufalcons.com where receivers talked about how they throughout the season learn each receiver position, each route, each play, so on and so forth. All of the returning receivers should all have at least decent knowledge of each position.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:16 pm

I'm more concerned with our QB's learning where the WR's are...then we'll work on hitting them in stride

falconfan1999 · Post by **falconfan1999** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:28 pm

Flipper wrote:I'm more concerned with our QB's learning where the WR's are...then we'll work on hitting them in stride

amen brother!

maquisard · Post by **maquisard** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:23 pm

Even my toledo friends (cough) I was standing next to made some positive comments about some of the passes and especially Corey's receptions. I have used that as my base to build upon during the off season. With a number of players healthy there is no question we will take a step forward this year.