Tulsa Head Coach Todd Graham...

[canefansincebillyvanburkl]

The year Andre Ware won the Heisman playing for Houston they had Tulsa down 56-0 at the half and there he sits in the commentors booth exclaiming that TU should run out the clock. When Bill Yeoman was coaching at Houston he pounded TU as badly as possible everytime. No one likes getting their face rubbed into it and I don't blame you for being offended. You could tell that BG had some talent but that defense was worn out by the 4th quarter.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

The year Andre Ware won the Heisman playing for Houston they had Tulsa down 56-0 at the half and there he sits in the commentors booth exclaiming that TU should run out the clock. When Bill Yeoman was coaching at Houston he pounded TU as badly as possible everytime. No one likes getting their face rubbed into it and I don't blame you for being offended. You could tell that BG had some talent but that defense was worn out by the 4th quarter.

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Tulsa Head Coach Todd Graham...doesn't like the way this thread has turned

[TG1996]

Tulsa Head Coach Todd Graham...doesn't like the way this thread has turned

...until he realized senseless posts might help him set a record.

I remember Houston (Ware and/or Klingler) pulling that late in games. Thought it was crap then, too.

[Redwingtom]

Quit whining. You are right. We threw the football in the last quarter and we scored again. The bottom line is that if you do not want to be scored on, GET BETTER. Why should we care if your feelings are hurt. Seems like you need to get better players who are tougher. We made a statement that we are a better team on national TV. Sorry if you feel as if there was no respect but to be honest, we cannot concern ourselves with the feelings of another program while we are trying to build ours. At least you stayed within 42 the last time we played a few years ago. Maybe we can play again and you can get within 30.

If your coach does not want to be perceived as a classless asshole, he should pull his starters and graciously run out the clock when he is up by 49 points.

Trust me, our feelings were not hurt by that last TD. As I said before, if you would have run the ball you probably would have scored anyway because young college athletes tend to not try as hard when they are down by 49 with three minutes to play.

Now run along back to Oklahoma and fade into obscurity like your program will next year.

[Ineedbotox]

The year Andre Ware won the Heisman playing for Houston they had Tulsa down 56-0 at the half and there he sits in the commentors booth exclaiming that TU should run out the clock. When Bill Yeoman was coaching at Houston he pounded TU as badly as possible everytime. No one likes getting their face rubbed into it and I don't blame you for being offended. You could tell that BG had some talent but that defense was worn out by the 4th quarter.

They beat my husband's team like 66-10 that same year. He is still pissed about it too!

[Falconfreak90]

I wasn't going to comment for a couple days but I am really ticked off at Graham now. You simply don't do what he did....I feel most for the BG kids. Our D was gassed by the middle of the third and without Sheehan, we were dead in the water. You wanted your records, coach? Congrats. You got them. But mark my words...some day we're gonna kick your ass all over and get payback. People don't forget stuff like this...You will get yours, you SOB.

There is no doubt in my mind Tusla is the better team...that offense, when clicking, would put up 40 on Ohio State. They are VERY freakin' good and Michael Ream told me such after the game...said he was blown away by it. He said they thought they had it figured out but on film and live are two very different things. The game was decided and won and you just don't continue to pile on. Totally classless.

TUbull, in 1989 we lost 45-10 at Tulsa...so it was 35. And second, your program backed out of our agreement to play at our place the following year. The comment about getting within 30 was uncalled for. Honor your commitments next time.

Congrats to Tulsa...you won the game and were, no doubt, a better team than BG in 2007. I look forward to another game soon...and I'm sure our coaches and players will as well. You have lots of talented players and outhit us, outplayed us, out everythinged us. But you coach is an ahole and 98% of the coaches in college ball would not have done what he did. They understand sportsmanship and respect for your opponent. Not to mention it will catch up to ya.

Paybacks are a bitch....

[Falconfreak90]

The year Andre Ware won the Heisman playing for Houston they had Tulsa down 56-0 at the half and there he sits in the commentors booth exclaiming that TU should run out the clock. When Bill Yeoman was coaching at Houston he pounded TU as badly as possible everytime. No one likes getting their face rubbed into it and I don't blame you for being offended. You could tell that BG had some talent but that defense was worn out by the 4th quarter.

Was that the year Houston won 95-21? I remember hearing about that game, if it was. I couldn't believe the score.

[canefansincebillyvanburkl]

In 1968 Houston obliterated TU 100-6 when half the team stayed home with the flu bug. Houston had Warren McVie and other future NFL players who took TU to the woodshed. Then approximately 20 years later Andre Ware is piling up stats at Houston for his Heisman trophy against TU...TU did score 21 2nd half points but lost by 40 to 50 pts. This year when TU smoked Houston 56-7 at home the local sports section had an article about former TU football players who endured the 100-6 game wishing they had beat Houston worse. The point is that you never forget getting embarassed when someone is trying to run it up...even after 40 years!!

[h2oville rocket]

When I was in elementary school (Bedrock Primary) our very talented hoops team got the score run DOWN on them- the other team stalled and won 22-21. The next year the boys remembered- We won 122-42 , still the most points I ever remember in a high school game. Karma.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

But you coach is an ahole and 98% of the coaches in college ball would not have done what he did. They understand sportsmanship and respect for your opponent. Not to mention it will catch up to ya.

I noticed that according to nationalchamps.net that Tulsa is set to start the 08 season at Texas Tech, that could be interesting

[JesseTU]

TU Bull was incorrect, we have not played BG for 18 years:

11-18-1989. Tulsa 45. BG 10.
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Do you guys still hate Fresno State?

12-14-1985 Frenso 51, BG 7

What about K State blanking you 58 - 0 in 1997?

Or any of the other blowouts?

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Do you realize you hold the title for one of (if not) the MOST lopsided victory in the history of college football? 10/15/1921: BG 151, Finlay College 0. I wonder if they are still pissed.

68 - 0 the year before over E. Michigan.

Is Akron still mad at you for consistently running the score up on them 40+ in the early 1990's?

How about Liberty: 62 - 3 in 2003?

Or Eastern KY the same year you ran the score up 50+?

Or Temple in 2004 you beat again by 50+?

Or poor Temple again 70-7 in 2005?

What a bunch of classless jerks. Man, you see to make a habit of running the score up to win by 50+ points. How do you live with yourselves - or were you trying not to score so its OK (in which case you are condescending jerks)? Pot, meet kettle.
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You're mad that you were embarrassed on national TV. Sorry. I'm sure you'll be back to running the score up on other teams soon enough and all will be well in the world. The facts show that you have committed just as egregious of acts in what were NOT your seniors last games and were NOT chasing any records (for whatever that's worth). You're history is littered with both huge blowouts and big defeats. As are most programs with any history.

You're defense failed to show up against THE # 1 OFFENSE IN THE NATION, of course it is going to score. You did not play well for whatever reason and we did - hope you are on the better side of blowouts in the future. But please stop attacking my school, players, and coaches. It is doing nothing but degrading my and other's impression of your fan base (which remains very high, btw).

You had a nice season that ended poorly. Hope you finish strong next year and I really hope it isn't us as I am sure you would be a little motivated.

[MarkL]

JesseTU -

YOU STILL DON'T GET IT!!!

All of those blowouts in recent years, the 70-7 win over Temple, 62-3 over Liberty, ... what did we do in those?

We put our BACKUPS in ... what a novel concept. Against Temple in 05, we were up I think 35-0 or so when just about the entire offense was pulled. The defense was pulled later. Two of those touchdowns were by defense and special teams.

Against Liberty, Josh Harris and the offense was out pretty quickly at halftime as I remember.

That's how all of those blowouts were - we pulled the first strings and put in the second and third strings and still won by landslides. Unlike Todd Graham, who felt it necessary to keep all his firsts in the entire game. That was the classless part we are focusing on.

So don't call us a bunch of classless jerks. Think a little bit about your own team ....

[Falcon30]

Jesse - I have stayed out of this because I think most of the bitching is not a good idea, but you have no idea what you are talking about with those games.

Fresno State I don't remember.

Kansas State - we won't schedule them anymore. Hell yes, we are still mad at them. I doubt we will play them again OOC in my lifetime. We were PO'd right after that game and our coach at the time called Snyder out.

As far as those games go...the 70-7 Temple game is an example of our philosophy. We ran the ball the entire second half. Temple quit that day. Perhaps we should have had our backup RBs take a knee when they weren't tackled, but I don't think so.

We weren't passing. We weren't trying to pour it on.

If you want to create a pissing match about RUTS, you aren't going to find evidence from BG. We score a lot, but call off the dogs when it is out of hand. Period.

Tulsa didn't. It isn't a big deal, but it is what it is.

[Flipper]

Jesse...You're as ignorant as you are obnoxious. We have inded beaten a number of teams by some very lopsided margins. We did not beat those teams by throwing the ball in the 4th qtr (or beyond the first part of the third) and we did not beat those teams by playing our starters. We ran the the third and fourth string out there and ran the ball with a vanilla offense....we did everything we could TO KEEP THE SCORE DOWN (short of taking a knee on every play...that would have been insulting).

Your jackass coach kept his starters in and continued to throw the ball welll into the 4th qtr...you continued to run you starting defense out there too and you ran blitz after blitz.

You folks did everything you could to run the score up....and the only excuse you can give is the pursuit of some individual records? Does your coach always put a premium on the needs of the indivdual rather than the team?

We were embarrassed by ouir team's play...you should be embarrassed by your team's behavoir.

[hammb]

Personally, I don't expect teams to lay down when they get a big lead. If they do fine, it shows class. If they don't then, whatever, I'll get over it. I think it's laughable to continue playing starters to chase personal "records", but then I don't put much stock in personal achievements...especially when it's records that nobody's heard of & nobody even knew who the previous holder was.

It was Tulsa's right to continue scoring on us, we had 11 kids out there that could've stopped that. At the same time you have to realize that there are unwritten rules in every sport. In football one of them is that if you're up by a huge margin you don't have your starting QB throwing the football late in the 4th quarter.

I think most of the unwritten rules are a joke, but it is conventional thinking for you to graciously pull your starters and walk out with dignity after a beat down like that. If you don't want to follow the conventional thinking that's fine, and it's your right, but you damn well better be man enough to deal with the consequences. You think we're just sore losers? Fine with me, what about the announcers of the game that were unbiased and completely ripping your coach for his decision? Had the game warranted any analysis you can bet your ass that every single talking head would've called your coach classless for continuing to throw the ball when the game was in hand. Does that necessarily make him classless? No, perhaps not, but if you're willing to turn your eye to conventional tactics, you better be able to deal with the heat.


As to the beatdowns that BG has put on other teams in other generations, I really cannot speak of them...wasn't alive. I can guarantee you one thing though: We were not throwing with our starters in the 4th quarter of any one of those recent beatdowns that you referenced. Against Temple in particular we actively tried NOT to score. We had our 3rd string RB running behind the 3rd string OL. We run him between the guards every single play. They couldn't stop it. I'm a firm believer that you cannot tell your players on the field to not give 100%. But you can sure as hell play your backups and call conservative plays if you want to try and avoid running up the score. Your coach decided he'd rather try to get his players their vaunted records than play to the conventional wisdom of college football. If that's what he wants to do fine, but he better be ready to hear the classless comments, because he's gonna get 'em.