BRANDON INTERVIEWS IN VEGAS!

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:50 pm

does anybody else have the feeling that brandon may be better suited as an OC and Stud may be better suited as a head coach? I love em both, I'm just wondering if anybody else feels the same way based on their apparent talents. Brandon in Scheming and Stud in recruiting..

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:51 pm

I think Option makes good points especially in that we have a scheme or offensive system that is hard to catch up to. Sure the calls are made by someone but in order to make them they have to be in the playbook ie the scheme of our spread style offense.

I think some are trying to bait Option into putting down Stud or turn is comments into anti Stud comments, but he is being honest and like the perspective he brings to the forums.

We have a Playstation offense. We throw, put up points and yardage and call time outs when the other team has the ball towards the end of the half because we know if we get it back we have the potential to strike on two plays.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:54 pm

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and call time outs when the other team has the ball towards the end of the half because we know if we get it back we have the potential to strike on two plays.
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hmmm..an anti-stud comment could easily be crafted based on this comment and the Toledo game. But I will respectfully decline...

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:38 am

I have been in total agreement with Option on hthis very subject for awhile now. I tihnk that Stud seems in over his head at times as an OC. Yes, we call good games against bum schools, but how many times does it seem our offense just goes into a shell? Why did we not try to do anything until it was too late against OSU? Why did we not go downfield against NIU this year? Why did we not run the ball against UT? Why do we keep running the same stupid trick plays that no longer work? (Thankfully they were in much shorter numbers this year) If you look back at each one of our losses you can see some VERY questionable playcalls that are obvious to even the most casual of football fan.

Then again, I don't think Brandon has what it takes to be a HC either. I think that he is a master at putting together a scheme and getting his players where they need to be. The job of a coordinator. I think he fails quite often at addressing the weaknesses of his team, making halftime adjustments, and motivating his team. The jobs of a HC. Whether or not to move the ball at the end of 1st half at UT? That's generally a HC's call, and he blew it. I think with Brandon at the helm we can continue to win 8 or 9 games a year and make a bowl game. He has been bringing in good classes and we can flat out win on talent alone in at least 6 of our MAC games every year. Maybe 8 or 9 wins is enough for most people, but I want more. With Brandon I just don't get the feeling we'll ever win EVERY game; that we'll ever come out and play well against a tough conference foe on the road, etc.

I have also been pretty adamant that I don't think the next HC if we were to lose Brandon is on this roster, however, today I did start to thinking. What about Stud? What makes me believe that he wouldn't be a good HC? I think the #1 reason is that I don't think he's a real great OC. However, as I mentioned above the jobs of the two people are drastically different,; Brandon was a great OC, but isn't a great HC. Well when I thought about what it was that made Stud a great position coach I thought maybe he would make a decent HC. Heck, he might be better suited than Brandon actually. As a position coach the guy was fiery and energetic. He got all his guys rallied to go to bat and kill for him if they had to. I think most of the OL I knew loved him, although he worked them. At the same time he had their respect because he'd been there. He's also, as mentioned in this thread, a great recruiter. I like my coaches to be fiery, and I like them to be great recruiters.

Talking to Stud I also get the opinion that he has the other quality I like in a HC. Nothing is ever good enough. When his guys came off the field he'd congratulate them, then he'd immediately start telling them what it was that they screwed up on. They may have been perfect for 7 plays of a drive, but if they screwed up on one play they heard about it. I like that in a HC. I liked how guys like Holtz & Parcells will come to a press conference and complain after a 30 point win. There is always room for improvement, and I like my coach to say publicly about it. I think its counter-productive for a HC to praise everything in the media then go to his team and tell them different. They listen, don't think they don't. Stud seems like he would know when to praise his troops, and when to let them have it.

I'm not ready to declare coach Stud as the next great BG coach, but the more I think about it the more I think he might do a pretty good job. Heck it wouldn't shock me in the least if he were a better HC than OC, and could definitely be better than Brandon. On top of that he has serious BG ties, and could end up sticking around awhile if he's successful.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:47 am

Good points Hammb, I agree with 99% of what you said. I also like how you call out where our HC has fallen short. The thing that rings true so vividly in my mind is "halftime (or anytime for that matter) adjustments" and our lack thereof making any. That is how TU beat us, and I have yet to see us "adjust" to win a ballgame. Maybe 2003 vs. Toledo, sure we were down at the half but....

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 1:03 am

This is the crux of my problem with much of the criticism of our coaching staff. When they don't make the right adjustments at the half (Toledo 2004) it's a sign of incompetence. When they do make the right adjustments at the half (Toledo 2003, MCB 2003) it's just glossed over or dismissed.

Similarly, when there is success, it's attributed to the weakness of our opponent or the work of the guy that was here before. When there's failure, it's the fault of the current staff and there is no consideration given to the fact that the opposition has talent too. They aren't shooting blanks, they're using bullets too.

Urban Meyer was a coaching genius here, but he didn't beat even one good team on the road. Gregg Brandon is not a genius, even though he at least beat Purdue on the road and came within two plays of beating Ohio State.

Frankly, I don't understand where you guys are coming from.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:10 am

Right or wrong here is where I am coming from. I feel that pretty much anyone that owns a Playstation and an EA Sports NCAA football game could run our team. I feel our team is a video game team- a dominating offense that can do many things and a defense that does just enough to win close games and can force the opponent to make mistakes.

I have said it in other threads, I have nothing against Brandon or any staff members, I am just not completely sold on him as a head man. . . yet. I agree with what Hammb said earlier, if we can get UNLV to give us the buyout I wouldn't shed a tear. . .

bgstud03 · Post by **bgstud03** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:01 am

I really can't believe I'm reading what I'm reading. You guys think that if Coach Brandon leaves we're going to be better off? You people actually believe this? How many 10 win seasons has a BG coach ever had? How many BG coaches have taken their teams to back to back bowl games?

I'm not saying I don't agree with him going to UNLV, at least we'll be getting $500,000. But I don't think people realize the effects it could possibly have.

If Coach Brandon leaves, the way things have been around here for the past 4 season might never be the same.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:41 am

I'm EXTREMELY curious to see whether he mentions anything to the crowd tomorrow about how much he loves BG, etc. What message does this tell not only our underclassmen, but new recruits that signed on to play for Brandon?

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:12 am

Dayons_Den wrote: I feel that pretty much anyone that owns a Playstation and an EA Sports NCAA football game could run our team.

I've got the feeling numerous individuals that own a Playstation and an EA Sports NCAA football game THINK they can run our team. There's a lot more to being a head coach than just what you see ON THE FIELD. This ain't no damn video game.

IF Gregg Brandon leaves, I put my trust into Paul Krebs to find us the right man for the job. In my opinion, he's 2 for 2!

manager · Post by **manager** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 7:07 am

I am astounded at the level of pomposity several have expressed in their posts about their alleged expertise in coaching -- We're all entitled to our opinions but I don't think most of us really have a clue what goes into the coaching profession.

I know there are a few folks who post on this board who are or have been coaches or had parents who were coaches. Next time you attend a game (especially Little League), listen to the comments coming from more than few parents. It's a wonder anyone volunteers or makes a career as a coach when everybody else "knows" better.

We can blab our opinions (self included) until the server self destructs or Grant shuts it down in disgust.

Long live the First Amendment and the right for us to publically make fools of ourselves!

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:32 am

hammb wrote:What about Stud? What makes me believe that he wouldn't be a good HC? I think the #1 reason is that I don't think he's a real great OC. However, as I mentioned above the jobs of the two people are drastically different,; Brandon was a great OC, but isn't a great HC. Well when I thought about what it was that made Stud a great position coach I thought maybe he would make a decent HC. Heck, he might be better suited than Brandon actually. As a position coach the guy was fiery and energetic. He got all his guys rallied to go to bat and kill for him if they had to. I think most of the OL I knew loved him, although he worked them. At the same time he had their respect because he'd been there. He's also, as mentioned in this thread, a great recruiter. I like my coaches to be fiery, and I like them to be great recruiters.

Talking to Stud I also get the opinion that he has the other quality I like in a HC. Nothing is ever good enough. When his guys came off the field he'd congratulate them, then he'd immediately start telling them what it was that they screwed up on. They may have been perfect for 7 plays of a drive, but if they screwed up on one play they heard about it. I like that in a HC. I liked how guys like Holtz & Parcells will come to a press conference and complain after a 30 point win. There is always room for improvement, and I like my coach to say publicly about it. I think its counter-productive for a HC to praise everything in the media then go to his team and tell them different. They listen, don't think they don't. Stud seems like he would know when to praise his troops, and when to let them have it.

I'm not ready to declare coach Stud as the next great BG coach, but the more I think about it the more I think he might do a pretty good job. Heck it wouldn't shock me in the least if he were a better HC than OC, and could definitely be better than Brandon. On top of that he has serious BG ties, and could end up sticking around awhile if he's successful.

Hammb--very interesting perspective and one I hadn't looked at.

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:39 am

manager wrote:We can blab our opinions (self included) until the server self destructs or Grant shuts it down in disgust.

Long live the First Amendment and the right for us to publically make fools of ourselves!

I DO get disgusted, but usually, the comments that disgust me get called out by others who are also disgusted. It's really pretty interesting how this community polices itself.

Maybe I should go back to school, get a masters in sociology and do my thesis on this website and the community/members/factions/cliques that exist here. How interesting would that be?!?!

OH... and GO BG!!

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:40 am

bgstud03 wrote: How many BG coaches have taken their teams to back to back bowl games?

Blackney did, aren't you glad we kept him around so long?

2 years of immediate success do not guarantee future success.

factman · Post by **factman** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:40 am

I agree with most of what hamm says too, and my ONLY reservation about "Stud" is his ability to put together a great staff. Not that he isn't capable, and I think people would love to work for him, but I wonder if he has had enough of the "right" experiences in coaching, to know the right people and put it together.