And we still lost to a freakin' winless team. That speaks volume for just how bad we played.Sussman wrote:But hey! No turnovers!
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Yeah, but as it turned out, it only took EMU about 30 to score anyway.Falcon137 wrote:Series of events:
2nd and 6. 1:30 to go, run out of bounds.
3rd and 6. 1:20 something left, incompletion.
All we had to do was pound it up the gut on 2nd down to force EMU to use their last TO with 1:20 to go, then do the same on 3rd down. After the punt EMU would have had less than 30 seconds to go almost 80 yards to score a TD and win the game. Instead we hand them the ball by running 2 plays that stop the clock and then let them march down the field like it was a 7 on 7 drill.
Our defense against a two-minute drill is Defcon 5 emergency.
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Yeah, I told my fiance, "I'm so glad I have to work every Saturday. I can skip the next few home games without feeling very guilty." Perhaps I can get homework done or something.Falcon137 wrote:As I was leaving the stadium the thing I heard most was, this is the last game I'll be at this year.bgsufalcon24 wrote:This is the first day I have ever been truly ashamed to be a Bowling Green Falcon. I feel like I've been misled. I feel like I've been tricked. I feel like I've been wasting my time, my energy, and my fan-dom on a team that truly, beyond the hype, sucks complete ass.
I had plans to go to Akron next week. It'll take a major change of heart for me to even move one step toward the Rubber Bowl now. In fact, I'm not sure I'll be attending any more games this season. I just can't take the heartbreak any longer. I'm done.
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Two thoughts on this play. One, why are we even running the ball to the short side of the field in this situation? Two, Is there not one coach on this team that could remind the ball carrier to just fall down in bounds instead of trying to get extra yards?Falcon137 wrote:2nd and 6. 1:30 to go, run out of bounds.
I don't have a problem with the play call on third down, if it works. But from my vantage point, it looked like Sheehan made a terrible throw. Otherwise that was an easy conversion and the ball game is over.
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Assuming they don't convert the 3rd down anyway, they get the ball back with 50 seconds left, not 20. But that's 50 seconds with no timeouts and a long field, not 1:30 with a timeout. The difference there is that it put the middle of the field back into play. With 40 extra seconds, EMU had no reason to fear going over the middle because they could afford to waste 10-15 seconds if they had to. If not for Wyoming, Brandon might be the worst coach in division 1-a football, and that's a damn accomplishment.Falcon137 wrote:That game was an absolute joke. The way the last 2 minutes was handled was the f'in worst. Pee-wee teams know to stay inbounds and then not throw it on 3rd down. EMU should have gotten the ball back with 20 seconds not a minute thirty.
If Brandon isn't fired tomorrow it's a travesty. Personally the worst loss I've ever seen. Worse than Tulsa worse than Miami, the end of the game was an absolute joke.
How do you figure 50 seconds? Don't run out of bounds- Timeout EMU. 1:20 to play. Up the gut on 3rd down, wind the playclock with 1:10 to play; run all 40 seconds off- :30 seconds to play. Take the penalty, punt, 7-10 more seconds gone.CiContention wrote:Assuming they don't convert the 3rd down anyway, they get the ball back with 50 seconds left, not 20. But that's 50 seconds with no timeouts and a long field, not 1:30 with a timeout. The difference there is that it put the middle of the field back into play. With 40 extra seconds, EMU had no reason to fear going over the middle because they could afford to waste 10-15 seconds if they had to. If not for Wyoming, Brandon might be the worst coach in division 1-a football, and that's a damn accomplishment.Falcon137 wrote:That game was an absolute joke. The way the last 2 minutes was handled was the f'in worst. Pee-wee teams know to stay inbounds and then not throw it on 3rd down. EMU should have gotten the ball back with 20 seconds not a minute thirty.
If Brandon isn't fired tomorrow it's a travesty. Personally the worst loss I've ever seen. Worse than Tulsa worse than Miami, the end of the game was an absolute joke.
I'm going to say he lays this one on Geter's injury. Some how we could only use about half the play book since our back up RB couldn't go.FalconFan16 wrote:I can't wait to see the spin he puts on this one.
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I'll agree mostly with 137's assessment here. I think he shaved a few too many seconds off, but pretty close. I was thinking it was like 1:27 when Bullock went out of bounds. If he stays in, EMU takes a TO with 1:25 left. Five seconds for a dive into the line, 39 seconds before the snap, 6 for the punt and I'll estimate 35 seconds and 80 yards with no TOs. The ball game would have been over.Falcon137 wrote:How do you figure 50 seconds? Don't run out of bounds- Timeout EMU. 1:20 to play. Up the gut on 3rd down, wind the playclock with 1:10 to play; run all 40 seconds off- :30 seconds to play. Take the penalty, punt, 7-10 more seconds gone.CiContention wrote:Assuming they don't convert the 3rd down anyway, they get the ball back with 50 seconds left, not 20. But that's 50 seconds with no timeouts and a long field, not 1:30 with a timeout. The difference there is that it put the middle of the field back into play. With 40 extra seconds, EMU had no reason to fear going over the middle because they could afford to waste 10-15 seconds if they had to. If not for Wyoming, Brandon might be the worst coach in division 1-a football, and that's a damn accomplishment.Falcon137 wrote:That game was an absolute joke. The way the last 2 minutes was handled was the f'in worst. Pee-wee teams know to stay inbounds and then not throw it on 3rd down. EMU should have gotten the ball back with 20 seconds not a minute thirty.
If Brandon isn't fired tomorrow it's a travesty. Personally the worst loss I've ever seen. Worse than Tulsa worse than Miami, the end of the game was an absolute joke.
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As boneheaded as it is, I'm giving them the out of bounds play. Not that it should ever happen. But when he does that, and it's still 3rd and 6, you make the other team use it's timeout.Falcon137 wrote:How do you figure 50 seconds? Don't run out of bounds- Timeout EMU. 1:20 to play. Up the gut on 3rd down, wind the playclock with 1:10 to play; run all 40 seconds off- :30 seconds to play. Take the penalty, punt, 7-10 more seconds gone.CiContention wrote:Assuming they don't convert the 3rd down anyway, they get the ball back with 50 seconds left, not 20. But that's 50 seconds with no timeouts and a long field, not 1:30 with a timeout. The difference there is that it put the middle of the field back into play. With 40 extra seconds, EMU had no reason to fear going over the middle because they could afford to waste 10-15 seconds if they had to. If not for Wyoming, Brandon might be the worst coach in division 1-a football, and that's a damn accomplishment.Falcon137 wrote:That game was an absolute joke. The way the last 2 minutes was handled was the f'in worst. Pee-wee teams know to stay inbounds and then not throw it on 3rd down. EMU should have gotten the ball back with 20 seconds not a minute thirty.
If Brandon isn't fired tomorrow it's a travesty. Personally the worst loss I've ever seen. Worse than Tulsa worse than Miami, the end of the game was an absolute joke.
Meaning, I'm only factoring in that BG does the right thing on one of the two plays.
The 3rd and 6 call is 50/50 either way. If it's less than 3 or 4, then yeah, slug it up the middle and hope you get a push or a hole for the first. At six yards, I don't think the pass is a horrible call, esp. if you set it up with play action. I didn't see the game, just listened, but I don't have much problem with the third down call as far as being a pass goes. The execution or the play call? I'd have to see it.
Get the first and it's over. Get stopped and they burn a timeout they never used anyway.
Get the first and it's over. Get stopped and they burn a timeout they never used anyway.
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I don't care if it's 3rd and 40, you run the ball and force them to use their timeout there. It takes away the middle of the field, or at least limits it to one play, where as EMU had two big receptions across the middle on their scoring drive.TG1996 wrote:The 3rd and 6 call is 50/50 either way. If it's less than 3 or 4, then yeah, slug it up the middle and hope you get a push or a hole for the first. At six yards, I don't think the pass is a horrible call, esp. if you set it up with play action. I didn't see the game, just listened, but I don't have much problem with the third down call as far as being a pass goes. The execution or the play call? I'd have to see it.
Get the first and it's over. Get stopped and they burn a timeout they never used anyway.
Secondly, they wouldn't have got the first down even if the ball was completed. The throw was short of the marker! It was just all in all miserably conceived.
In that case then, I agree. Gotta get to the sticks.CiContention wrote:Secondly, they wouldn't have got the first down even if the ball was completed. The throw was short of the marker! It was just all in all miserably conceived.
I know you're playing with the percentages and whatnot, but since hindsight is what it is, does Brandon get a break from the torches if he runs up the middle for 2 yards, EMU burns the TO, BG punts and they still go down and score (since, you know, they didn't need the timeout anyway?)??
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