Kory L.

[Redwingtom]

Did anyone see Kory in the backfield blocking for Denver's first TD last night? He got a mention for a great block as well as the mention of his alma mater and then he got some camera time with his helmet off on the sidelines.

And oh yeah...Jay Cutler got me 35 fantasy points last night.

Thanks Browns

[VDub26Falcon]

I'm glad Kory played a good game. He deserves it. The thing that ticks me off is that the Browns still could've won that game, even with Kory having a great game.

[tiznow]

Did anyone see Kory in the backfield blocking for Denver's first TD last night? He got a mention for a great block as well as the mention of his alma mater and then he got some camera time with his helmet off on the sidelines.

And oh yeah...Jay Cutler got me 35 fantasy points last night.

Thanks Browns

Yeah and Eddie Royal gave me 25.

[tiznow]

I didn't feel like starting a new thread, but Brady looked good last night.

I have posted before that I am not a Brady Quinn fan, but at least for this game, I will eat crow. Brady looked comfortable, made good decisions, didn't take any stupid sacks and threw no picks.

[moneymaker02]

just traded for eddie royal and had him on my bench

[footballguy51]

I vaguely remember somebody telling me it was a bad idea to sit Edwards. Considering he had one catch for 15 yards, I'll take the bad decision to sit him.

[Redwingtom]

I'm glad Kory played a good game. He deserves it. The thing that ticks me off is that the Browns still could've won that game, even with Kory having a great game.

I don't know if I would go that far. To my knowledge, that was the only play he was in for.

[hammb]

I vaguely remember somebody telling me it was a bad idea to sit Edwards. Considering he had one catch for 15 yards, I'll take the bad decision to sit him.

Yeah, I didn't realize Brady Quinn was going to be smart enough to throw to open guys rather than forcing it to Edwards all night long. Good call by you, screwup by me.

[zeket10]

I vaguely remember somebody telling me it was a bad idea to sit Edwards. Considering he had one catch for 15 yards, I'll take the bad decision to sit him.

I traded Edwards for TJ after week 4 now TJ aint doing to hot with out Carson Palmer.

[Warthog]

I vaguely remember somebody telling me it was a bad idea to sit Edwards. Considering he had one catch for 15 yards, I'll take the bad decision to sit him.

Yeah, I didn't realize Brady Quinn was going to be smart enough to throw to open guys rather than forcing it to Edwards all night long. Good call by you, screwup by me.

I played Edwards. And you are right Brian, whenever Quinn did throw to BE, it looked like he was forcing it there. Like he needed to get him some touches, but he was never open. Being at the game I didn't see the replay, but the one he threw to Edwards in the end zone, I swear Heiden was standing in the middle of the end zone and no one with in ten yards of him.

Quinn did ok last night, but they never threw the ball down the field. Don't know if that was the play calling or Quinn just making quick decisions to check down to the short receiver.

[Warthog]

I'm glad Kory played a good game. He deserves it. The thing that ticks me off is that the Browns still could've won that game, even with Kory having a great game.

I don't know if I would go that far. To my knowledge, that was the only play he was in for.

There was a couple of plays at the goal line that he was in on, and I'm pretty sure he was on the kick return team as well.

Apparently Sanders was inactive because I never saw him on the sideline. And Pope must have been inactive as well as Denver had two more RBs get hurt and played the entire second half with their fullback running the ball.

[moneymaker02]

I vaguely remember somebody telling me it was a bad idea to sit Edwards. Considering he had one catch for 15 yards, I'll take the bad decision to sit him.

Yeah, I didn't realize Brady Quinn was going to be smart enough to throw to open guys rather than forcing it to Edwards all night long. Good call by you, screwup by me.

I played Edwards. And you are right Brian, whenever Quinn did throw to BE, it looked like he was forcing it there. Like he needed to get him some touches, but he was never open. Being at the game I didn't see the replay, but the one he threw to Edwards in the end zone, I swear Heiden was standing in the middle of the end zone and no one with in ten yards of him.

Quinn did ok last night, but they never threw the ball down the field. Don't know if that was the play calling or Quinn just making quick decisions to check down to the short receiver.

They aren't going to go down field with brady like they did with anderson because brady doesn't have an arm that can stretch the field. You can't deny that anderson has a cannon but has been terrible this year. theres a reason he fell all the way to the browns. I see brady being just like chad pennington, always making the smart play, never throwing that many int's. but will never stretch the field because he just cant.

[hammb]

I vaguely remember somebody telling me it was a bad idea to sit Edwards. Considering he had one catch for 15 yards, I'll take the bad decision to sit him.

Yeah, I didn't realize Brady Quinn was going to be smart enough to throw to open guys rather than forcing it to Edwards all night long. Good call by you, screwup by me.

I played Edwards. And you are right Brian, whenever Quinn did throw to BE, it looked like he was forcing it there. Like he needed to get him some touches, but he was never open. Being at the game I didn't see the replay, but the one he threw to Edwards in the end zone, I swear Heiden was standing in the middle of the end zone and no one with in ten yards of him.

Quinn did ok last night, but they never threw the ball down the field. Don't know if that was the play calling or Quinn just making quick decisions to check down to the short receiver.

It's always tough to say from watching on TV, but it seemed to me that the coverage scheme from Denver was to force the Browns away from Braylon. It seemed as though they were bracketing him with over/under coverage all night long. I don't think there was a single route I saw him run that didn't have a safety over the top of it.

What was nice about that was that Brady just hit the open guys 5-10 yards all night. As he plays more I'm sure teams will start to creep in and try to take away that shorter stuff, and that is when he'll need to start hitting Braylon or the other WRs downfield. My only question is whether or not Brady was checking down TOO quickly and taking the 5 yard pass when something downfield might have opened up a second later. Impossible to know that from TV coverage, so I'll be anxious to hear what the film study says.

All in all I was pretty happy with his play. He was decisive, comfortable, and delivered the ball to open guys. The first TD was a tremendous throw. The throw to Braylon that got called back for the KWII PI was a great play as well. The one catch that Edwards had was a nice change of pace of actually hitting a WR in stride over the middle and allowing him to make a play.

Most telling, though, was that Quinn showed leadership and poise, two things Anderson is clueless with. When have you ever heard Anderson be accountable for anything? In his very first freaking start Quinn steps up and says it was his fault for not making the plays necessary to score the winning TD on that final drive. Right away he's already taking responsibility for what goes on with the offense. That's a nice change of pace.

[Warthog]

Hammb,
1. Being at the game and having Edwards in my fantasy lineup, I was looking for him on every formation and you are correct about the coverage. The deep safety ALWAYS played to the side Braylon lined up on.

2. What you said about throwing to the short guy TOO quickly was what I was talking about. Don't know if he was too quick with checking down or it was recognition that that was the place to go with the ball.

3. Just saw the Winslow PI call for the first time and that was a s**t call. Both players went down and neither one looked to be avoiding contact there. And since it had no impact on the play, that one should never have been called.

4. Did Brandon McDonald get paid off for that game? I missed one play because I had to take a leak and it was the 93 yard TD pass. Just saw the replay of that for the first time and that was the most pathetic play by a CB I have ever seen. When you are beat deep, just make sure you don't give up the TD. He made a play on the ball after Royal had already caught it and then had no chance to make the tackle.
Then check out the TD to Graham. Graham catches the ball just inside the 20 moving toward the sideline. McDonald was covering in the flat close to the sideline. He started making a play to the ball and could have lit up Graham but he simply pulls up and lets him run right by. WTF was that?
And of course there was the INT he dropped as well after he had it in his hands. That was the worst performance by a CB that I have seen in a while.

[hammb]

I'm with you on the PI call Warthog. I have no clue how they attributed fault, nor why they made the call. It had no bearing on the play and looked to be two guys that just got entangled. Winslow has a reputation getting a lot of PI calls against, so I'm sure that didn't help the cause any.

MacDonald was AWFUL last night. I've actually liked what I've seen of the young corner most of the year, but these past 2 games he's been horrendous. Last night was just bad play after bad play. 2 dropped INTs. The long play Sean Jones was out of position and McD was trying to get him into position before the snap, but that wasn't happening. He either needs to call a TO there or just forget it and realize he's on an island. Once he gets beat he needs to just focus on making the tackle. I think he'll be alright, but last night was NOT pretty for him.

Moneymaker:

I really don't expect Brady Quinn to be relegated to a Chad Pennington type player. The arm strength between the two is not even close. Brady's arm strength is probably average in the NFL. It's not stellar, by any stretch, but it's not Chad Pennington either. I think his overall arm strength is probably on par with Tom Brady or Peyton's. Neither are rocket armed, but both still can get the ball downfield. They do so by relying on great touch and accuracy downfield. If Quinn has that attribute then his arm is plenty strong. He'll never be a Cutler or Favre, but you don't need to be to succeed in the NFL.

As to DA, his arm strength was strange. He rotates the ball very well and puts a ton of zip on the ball...too much at times. But when it comes time to airing the ball out deep? He wasn't that stellar. I can think of multiple occasions where he couldn't get the ball into the endzone on end-of-half hail mary attempts even from 50-55 yards away. He was also made a habit of underthrowing WRs who were open on go routes. He has tremendous zip, but when it comes to "how far can he throw it?" I never thought DA was all that.


I, for one, cannot wait to see the next Quinn start...I'm anxious to see how defenses adjust to him, and how he counters that. The kid is a leader and showed poise beyond his years last night. If he shows the ability to hit those 10-25 yard throws he will be a damn good QB, IMO.