Weak MAC out of conference schedules

FortWayneFalcon · Post by **FortWayneFalcon** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:40 pm

JoeFalcon wrote:We've had the same scheduling philosophy for years and it has netted us zero conference championships. A change might not be the worst thing. I'm not talking about a bunch of cupcakes, but just a game or two where we're a legitimate favorite and don't have to play perfect in order to win.

With a new offense, defense and special teams, it would be nice to have a SEMO in Week 1 to work out the kinks, or maybe wedged between Missouri and Boise State. Ask most coaches and they'd tell you the same thing.

I wonder if the kids feel the same way as you say the coaches probably think.
IMO, give them as many shots as you can give them aainst the guys that beat them out at the bigs so they can prove what they came in believing; that they are worthy of the big shot.

VDub26Falcon · Post by **VDub26Falcon** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:19 am

Winning a game you shouldn't can totally build confidence for a team and push them to a great season. Look at Toledo beating U of M last season...didn't Toledo get a bowl game last year???

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:34 am

VDub26Falcon wrote:Winning a game you shouldn't can totally build confidence for a team and push them to a great season. Look at Toledo beating U of M last season...didn't Toledo get a bowl game last year???

Michigan was 3-9 last year. It's not like that was a big win. Maybe symbolic given Michigan's illustrious history, but not a good win.

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:53 am

bgsufalcon24 wrote:
VDub26Falcon wrote:Winning a game you shouldn't can totally build confidence for a team and push them to a great season. Look at Toledo beating U of M last season...didn't Toledo get a bowl game last year???
Michigan was 3-9 last year. It's not like that was a big win. Maybe symbolic given Michigan's illustrious history, but not a good win.

LOL Hmmmm....could you give other examples of bad wins? I know that BG would much rather have put a whipping on Eastern Michigan at Doyt Perry than beat the all time winningest program in NCAA history on their home field. I know UT fans are still bitter about the scheduling that put us in position to have to win there. It was embarrasing to have such a pathetic win on our record.

FortWayneFalcon · Post by **FortWayneFalcon** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:50 pm

h2oville rocket wrote: LOL Hmmmm....could you give other examples of bad wins? I know that BG would much rather have put a whipping on Eastern Michigan at Doyt Perry than beat the all time winningest program in NCAA history on their home field. I know UT fans are still bitter about the scheduling that put us in position to have to win there. It was embarrasing to have such a pathetic win on our record.

From a great, great, unseen distance I can get behind any MAC program that defeats a BIG11 team, except of course for Miami. So,...kudos.

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:25 pm

Thanks, but, Nah, it was a bad win and worst of all we had to do it in front of 100,000 hostile fans. Now EVERYBODY knows how bad a win it was.

cw08 · Post by **cw08** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:04 am

Yea, I'd say it was a pretty good win. Better than our win against 1-11 Minnesota.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:58 am

How the hell beating Michigan would ever be considered a bad win is beyond me. As successful and arrogant as UM has been thru the ages, any win over those schmucks is a GREAT win...who cares what UM's record was last year. UT was what, 3-9 or 4-8?

I despise UT in every way, shape and form but was loving that win over UM last year.

Now, UT still sucks...

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:19 am

h2oville rocket wrote:It was embarrasing to have such a pathetic win on our record.

Worked out really well for your head coach too.

But to be fair, I loath all that which is north of the Maumee river in Lucas county. But they won the game. Even if it was an all-time-bad Michigan team, they won. If we beat an all-time-bad Ohio State team, we'd never let them live it down. It doesn't mean UT had a good team, they didn't, which is what makes their win all the more profoundly laughable from the view of people who don't like UM. BGSU beat UT, which makes last years Rocket team even more profoundly laughable.

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:35 am

NWLB wrote:
h2oville rocket wrote:It was embarrasing to have such a pathetic win on our record.
Worked out really well for your head coach too.

But to be fair, I loath all that which is north of the Maumee river in Lucas county. But they won the game. Even if it was an all-time-bad Michigan team, they won. If we beat an all-time-bad Ohio State team, we'd never let them live it down. It doesn't mean UT had a good team, they didn't, which is what makes their win all the more profoundly laughable from the view of people who don't like UM. BGSU beat UT, which makes last years Rocket team even more profoundly laughable.

Quite agree- anybody that BG beat last year would have to be laughable. EMU on the other hand...

But if bgsu24 says UM was a "bad win" it must have been.

By the way- did you grow up on Toledo's East side?

Peregrinner · Post by **Peregrinner** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:30 am

bgsufalcon24 wrote:
VDub26Falcon wrote:Winning a game you shouldn't can totally build confidence for a team and push them to a great season. Look at Toledo beating U of M last season...didn't Toledo get a bowl game last year???
Michigan was 3-9 last year. It's not like that was a big win. Maybe symbolic given Michigan's illustrious history, but not a good win.

Missed the point and made a totally ridiculous statement in one fell swoop. Well done, 24!

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:39 am

h2oville rocket wrote:By the way- did you grow up on Toledo's East side?

Nope, in the three stints my family was in the Toledo area, I was either in Maumee, or the Heatherdowns area. My great uncle Lynn bought out most of the area during the depression, sold it off, and built his home two doors down from St. Andrews church. Wound up going to Bowsher, like my late mother who went there when it opened.

I give props to the East Toledo folk, anybody that tried to break away from mainland Toledo deserves some credit.

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:54 am

NWLB wrote:
h2oville rocket wrote:By the way- did you grow up on Toledo's East side?
Nope, in the three stints my family was in the Toledo area, I was either in Maumee, or the Heatherdowns area. My great uncle Lynn bought out most of the area during the depression, sold it off, and built his home two doors down from St. Andrews church. Wound up going to Bowsher, like my late mother who went there when it opened.

I give props to the East Toledo folk, anybody that tried to break away from mainland Toledo deserves some credit.

Just wondered, since you excluded that portion in your loathing statement. And what do you have against Grand Rapids,Swanton Township, Whitehouse, and Sylvania?

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:59 am

h2oville rocket wrote:
NWLB wrote:Just wondered, since you excluded that portion in your loathing statement. And what do you have against Grand Rapids,Swanton Township, Whitehouse, and Sylvania?

Nothing really, The Whitehouse Inn is a fine place to eat. In NWLB shorthand, "North of the Maumee" is a basic reference to Toledo.