Hi all. I'm new here as well...another Mizzou fan. I'd like to add an addendum to mutiger91's pass rush comment. You don't just need to put pressure on our QB, you'll need to do it with only your DL. If you commit your LBs to blitzing, it will open up the short middle for one our bread-n-butter plays, the WR screen. Look at a replay of our game last weekend and you'll see Jared Perry turn a 6 yard pass play (WR screen) into a 48 TD because Ill blitzed. And on the other side of the ball, we rushed only our DL the whole game and both contained Williams and sacked him three times.JH5 wrote:Well, I will say we did most of these things against Troy.
-We generated a pretty good pass rush against Troy, although there were times where Brown had a lot of time. This is the biggest key in the game--we have to come up with a good enough defensive scheme to keep Gabbert in check. Getting pressure will do it, but when you get pressure its risky as you don’t have as many people in coverage. If we get a lot of pressure from our front four we’ll win the game.
Mizzou Game Discussion/Prediction Thread
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Prediction time!!!
BGSU: 35
Mizzou: 34 (they get 2 field goals)
BGSU: 35
Mizzou: 34 (they get 2 field goals)
ROLL ALONG!!!
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one CBS.SPORTSLINE expert predicts Falcon win:
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Dayons_Den wrote:Jeff,
I am driving over to Columbia from KC Saturday morning with some friends. I noticed there will be some changes regarding tailgating around the stadium. Can you recommend a public access lot we can head to near the stadium where we can drink some beers and maybe grill without upsetting anyone or being overly heckled by drunken frat boys?
You can head down to reactor feild. Its public parking and costs about 10 bucks to park there. You will have to get there atleast 3 hours before the game to get a decent spot if any but its worth it. Its only about 1/2 mile from the stadium if that, and most of the frat parties have moved from that location. No Kegs are allowed anymore but you can drink all the beer you want. Charcoal grills are still allowed. The whole keg rule is the only new regulation. Hope this helps!
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You can't park at Reactor anymore as it was closed this season. If you aren't looking to set up a tailgate with your car I recommend parking in one of the free parking garages on campus and making the 10 minute walk. If you are looking to tailgate and don't have a parking pass I don't know of a great place.TigerInCo wrote:Dayons_Den wrote:Jeff,
I am driving over to Columbia from KC Saturday morning with some friends. I noticed there will be some changes regarding tailgating around the stadium. Can you recommend a public access lot we can head to near the stadium where we can drink some beers and maybe grill without upsetting anyone or being overly heckled by drunken frat boys?
You can head down to reactor feild. Its public parking and costs about 10 bucks to park there. You will have to get there atleast 3 hours before the game to get a decent spot if any but its worth it. Its only about 1/2 mile from the stadium if that, and most of the frat parties have moved from that location. No Kegs are allowed anymore but you can drink all the beer you want. Charcoal grills are still allowed. The whole keg rule is the only new regulation. Hope this helps!
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Missouri 41 Bowling Green 13
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OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!!
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9/14/2002 vs. Missouri (5-7) W 51 28
9/01/2001 @ Missouri (4-7) W 20 13
9/05/1998 @ Missouri (8-4) L 0 37
9/09/1995 @ Missouri (3-8) W 17 10
9/01/2001 @ Missouri (4-7) W 20 13
9/05/1998 @ Missouri (8-4) L 0 37
9/09/1995 @ Missouri (3-8) W 17 10
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One out of five...and he also picked Ohio State to beat USC. He's fishing for upsets.SB-50 wrote:one CBS.SPORTSLINE expert predicts Falcon win:
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edit: and he picked South Carolina over Georgia...definitely reaching
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Why can't the mizzou fans admit it will be a good game...I dont get it. Tigers fans dont need to be sleeping...loosin the neck tie its gonna be a very good game.
"OMAR IS BUSY MODELING"
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If there's one thing we, as Mizzou fans, have learned over the years, it's to not be over confident. I wasn't saying it couldn't be a good game, I was just stating what seemed obvious from the "expert's" picks.ktrain wrote:Why can't the mizzou fans admit it will be a good game...I dont get it. Tigers fans dont need to be sleeping...loosin the neck tie its gonna be a very good game.
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Prediction time.
I'm gonna go with BG by 7. We actually get off to a good start this week scoring twice in the first quarter and our defense manages to contain you enough to get the win. I've said it all week.. the key to the game is the front 4 on D, and I feel like they're gonna get enough pressure to win the game. We shut down a good QB in Levi Brown last week and do it again this week IMO. Sheehan has another big game as well. Stats: Sheehan (25-33, 340 yards, 3 TD 1 INT) Barnes (8 Rec, 123 yards, 1 TD) Scheidler (5 Rec, 69 yards, 1 TD) Hodges (1 Rec TD) Geter (14 Rush, 84 yards, 1 TD) Bullock (4 Rush, 20 yards, 1 TD) Mahone (10 tackles, 1 INT) Williams (8 Tackles) Basler (7 Tackles, 3 For Loss, 1 Sack, 1 FF) Phillips (5-5 XP)
I'm gonna go with BG by 7. We actually get off to a good start this week scoring twice in the first quarter and our defense manages to contain you enough to get the win. I've said it all week.. the key to the game is the front 4 on D, and I feel like they're gonna get enough pressure to win the game. We shut down a good QB in Levi Brown last week and do it again this week IMO. Sheehan has another big game as well. Stats: Sheehan (25-33, 340 yards, 3 TD 1 INT) Barnes (8 Rec, 123 yards, 1 TD) Scheidler (5 Rec, 69 yards, 1 TD) Hodges (1 Rec TD) Geter (14 Rush, 84 yards, 1 TD) Bullock (4 Rush, 20 yards, 1 TD) Mahone (10 tackles, 1 INT) Williams (8 Tackles) Basler (7 Tackles, 3 For Loss, 1 Sack, 1 FF) Phillips (5-5 XP)
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kcepp wrote:If there's one thing we, as Mizzou fans, have learned over the years, it's to not be over confident. I wasn't saying it couldn't be a good game, I was just stating what seemed obvious from the "expert's" picks.ktrain wrote:Why can't the mizzou fans admit it will be a good game...I dont get it. Tigers fans dont need to be sleeping...loosin the neck tie its gonna be a very good game.
As a Mizzou fan, I will be the first to admit that its easy to look past a team and get caught sleeping. I dont see them doing this. MU has a lot more talent, speed, and better coaching than BG. Nothing against BG but I think youre in for a long day on Saturday. I hope its a good game..... for Gabbert and the good guys
. I dont see MU winning this game by less than 30 to be honest. I know you all have our number but take a look at the MU teams you beat that year compared to the program now. There is no comparison. All 3 of your wins agianst us game in years where we had a sub .500 record. I think BG has the ability to beat MU but it would take Mizzou giving a terrible performance.Re: Mizzou Game Discussion/Prediction Thread
Hello all. Looking forward to the game Saturday (and hoping it doesn’t rain TOO much).
My thoughts on the game/this thread… I am surprised to see so much optimism/confidence from you all as a whole. No problem with you all being fans of your team, though. Just surprising to see so much quiet confidence. I mean, I realize you all handled Troy… but that’s Troy. Little bit different level of players recruited and developed there, don’t you think?
I do want to make a couple of comments about “past results” and then flow into my prediction for this Saturday’s game. The past few seasons count more than 2001 and 2002 because the whole Missouri program is entirely different than it was in either of those seasons. Pinkel is fully established, and entering his third recruiting cycle (rather than playing with someone else’s players as in 2001 or with that collection plus a few redshirt freshmen as in 2002). The quality of talent, size, speed and athletic ability on both sides of the ball is astronomically different. In fact, Brad Smith and Justin Gage are the only players from either of those teams who probably even crack the two deep on the current squad.
All that said… Missouri’s talent level on the lines is the difference maker in this game. That’s where the really big gap between the Tigers and Falcons is, in my opinion.
Mizzou’s OL is a deep, strong and talented unit led by three all-conference level performers (LT Fisher, RG Gregory, C Barnes) and another potential all-conference guy in RT Hoch. They will keep Gabbert clean on passing plays. Illinois struggled to put serious pressure on Gabbert despite the presence of three outstanding DTs. I think you all will encounter similar difficulties. And if you start blitzing… well, one of the spread’s strengths is against the blitz. With his size and arm strength, Gabbert can really punish teams that blitz him a lot.
The WRs are a big unit, led by Danario Alexander (who looks to have regained almost all of the explosion he was missing last season following his ACL surgery). Jared Perry is a speedy receiver who can make plays in space and shows nice awareness on sideline routes. And Wes Kemp is a big, physical receiver with great hands and work ethic.
The RBs didn’t find a lot of room to run last week, as Illinois consistently dedicated two players (2 LB or a LB and a S) to containing the RB on the zone read. Between that and Illinois’ strong interior, Gabbert was forced to make plays (which he did) for Mizzou to move the ball. Starter Derrick Washington breaks more tackles, makes more people miss and outruns more guys than it looks like he should. The backup in this game will be freshman Kendial Lawrence, a Parade All-American last year who is more of a start and stop, shifty back than Washington.
Defensively, Missouri has an all-conference-type DT in Jaron Baston (though with Suh and McCoy back, the best he’s probably looking at is second-team honors) and three very good defensive ends. DE is probably the position that has progressed the most since last season. The defensive line play was a question mark coming into the season, but it is looking like a strength at this point; the Tigers recorded three second-half sacks against Illinois’ Juice Williams after playing a “contained rush” to keep Williams in the pocket during the first half. I’d expect the DL to be much more aggressive against a QB like Sheehan, who isn’t as mobile or athletic as Williams.
Also, if BG’s run-pass balance is an heavy on passing plays as it was against Troy, you’ll see all three DEs (Smith, Smith and Coulter) on the field at the same time pretty frequently. Rs. freshman Aldon Smith - the DE who slides inside in that “Scorpion” package - debuted against the Illini with six tackles, three for a loss, and a sack.
Behind that defensive line is a fast, hard-hitting LB corp. Sean Weatherspoon and Will Ebner both have day-ending hitting ability.
The biggest question is the secondary, which looked much improved against U of I but still has a lot to prove. Communication and blown coverages, as well as tackling, were big issues for it last season. The communication errors look to have been cleaned up by simplifying the scheme. Tackling was good as well, and coverage over the top was good enough to keep Illinois from trying to go downfield much at all.
In the end, I think Missouri is too big and skilled up front for BG to consistently protect Sheehan or consistently pressure Gabbert without blitzing. Bowling Green plays tough and keeps it respectable at half (21-13), but Missouri’s depth and advantages in the trenches make the difference in the second half of a 35-13 win.
My thoughts on the game/this thread… I am surprised to see so much optimism/confidence from you all as a whole. No problem with you all being fans of your team, though. Just surprising to see so much quiet confidence. I mean, I realize you all handled Troy… but that’s Troy. Little bit different level of players recruited and developed there, don’t you think?
I do want to make a couple of comments about “past results” and then flow into my prediction for this Saturday’s game. The past few seasons count more than 2001 and 2002 because the whole Missouri program is entirely different than it was in either of those seasons. Pinkel is fully established, and entering his third recruiting cycle (rather than playing with someone else’s players as in 2001 or with that collection plus a few redshirt freshmen as in 2002). The quality of talent, size, speed and athletic ability on both sides of the ball is astronomically different. In fact, Brad Smith and Justin Gage are the only players from either of those teams who probably even crack the two deep on the current squad.
All that said… Missouri’s talent level on the lines is the difference maker in this game. That’s where the really big gap between the Tigers and Falcons is, in my opinion.
Mizzou’s OL is a deep, strong and talented unit led by three all-conference level performers (LT Fisher, RG Gregory, C Barnes) and another potential all-conference guy in RT Hoch. They will keep Gabbert clean on passing plays. Illinois struggled to put serious pressure on Gabbert despite the presence of three outstanding DTs. I think you all will encounter similar difficulties. And if you start blitzing… well, one of the spread’s strengths is against the blitz. With his size and arm strength, Gabbert can really punish teams that blitz him a lot.
The WRs are a big unit, led by Danario Alexander (who looks to have regained almost all of the explosion he was missing last season following his ACL surgery). Jared Perry is a speedy receiver who can make plays in space and shows nice awareness on sideline routes. And Wes Kemp is a big, physical receiver with great hands and work ethic.
The RBs didn’t find a lot of room to run last week, as Illinois consistently dedicated two players (2 LB or a LB and a S) to containing the RB on the zone read. Between that and Illinois’ strong interior, Gabbert was forced to make plays (which he did) for Mizzou to move the ball. Starter Derrick Washington breaks more tackles, makes more people miss and outruns more guys than it looks like he should. The backup in this game will be freshman Kendial Lawrence, a Parade All-American last year who is more of a start and stop, shifty back than Washington.
Defensively, Missouri has an all-conference-type DT in Jaron Baston (though with Suh and McCoy back, the best he’s probably looking at is second-team honors) and three very good defensive ends. DE is probably the position that has progressed the most since last season. The defensive line play was a question mark coming into the season, but it is looking like a strength at this point; the Tigers recorded three second-half sacks against Illinois’ Juice Williams after playing a “contained rush” to keep Williams in the pocket during the first half. I’d expect the DL to be much more aggressive against a QB like Sheehan, who isn’t as mobile or athletic as Williams.
Also, if BG’s run-pass balance is an heavy on passing plays as it was against Troy, you’ll see all three DEs (Smith, Smith and Coulter) on the field at the same time pretty frequently. Rs. freshman Aldon Smith - the DE who slides inside in that “Scorpion” package - debuted against the Illini with six tackles, three for a loss, and a sack.
Behind that defensive line is a fast, hard-hitting LB corp. Sean Weatherspoon and Will Ebner both have day-ending hitting ability.
The biggest question is the secondary, which looked much improved against U of I but still has a lot to prove. Communication and blown coverages, as well as tackling, were big issues for it last season. The communication errors look to have been cleaned up by simplifying the scheme. Tackling was good as well, and coverage over the top was good enough to keep Illinois from trying to go downfield much at all.
In the end, I think Missouri is too big and skilled up front for BG to consistently protect Sheehan or consistently pressure Gabbert without blitzing. Bowling Green plays tough and keeps it respectable at half (21-13), but Missouri’s depth and advantages in the trenches make the difference in the second half of a 35-13 win.
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Not going to deny that Mizzou has more speed and more talent than this BG squad. But I will NOT concede that Pinkel is a superior head coach to Dave Clawson. Pinkel is a solid coach, but it took him quite awhile to convince ya'll down in Mizzou of that fact. He's not the next Urban Meyer, that's for sure.TigerInCo wrote:kcepp wrote:If there's one thing we, as Mizzou fans, have learned over the years, it's to not be over confident. I wasn't saying it couldn't be a good game, I was just stating what seemed obvious from the "expert's" picks.ktrain wrote:Why can't the mizzou fans admit it will be a good game...I dont get it. Tigers fans dont need to be sleeping...loosin the neck tie its gonna be a very good game.
As a Mizzou fan, I will be the first to admit that its easy to look past a team and get caught sleeping. I dont see them doing this. MU has a lot more talent, speed, and better coaching than BG. Nothing against BG but I think youre in for a long day on Saturday. I hope its a good game..... for Gabbert and the good guys
Coach Clawson is a top notch young head coach. He's already a 2 time 1AA coach of the year, and in my opinion that counts for something. I suppose it's possible that he flames out at the 1A level, but so far I'm loving what I've seen. Enough so that I'm not about to stand by and allow somebody to simply declare Mizzou has a superior coaching staff. Especially given that Pinkel was real close to getting fired before finally turning things around down there a couple years ago.
