Conference realignment benefitting us

[Flipper]

Yep...look at the SEC. They play crap OOC schedules because "they have to play each other".

On the topic of sports and college choices...intercollegiate athletics placed about 35th on my list of criteria. That was well below the availability of snacks...both sweet and salty...and ample parking at least 5 linear miles from lecture halls.

And do we have political avatars here? If we're going to get all girly and s**t about political discussion in threads with titles that clearly indicate they are of a political bent...should we allow ourselves to be ambushed by avatars that are supportive or critical of a particular politician?

[MACMAN]

Once the realignment takes hold I seriously doubt they will play MAC schools. They will likely have each conference paired off with another ie North and North and south and south and the teams in the North will play occ games against the south as an example of teams they other wise would not play, they will not need nor will they want to play MAc schools. It will be better, we will play schools that we would other wise not play that are at the same competitive level. It will make for better football as a whole.

I disagree, with super conferences a team no longer needs to schedule an elite OOC game. They will claim they get those in their conference. They will want to tune up against MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA teams. This allows us to collect a paycheck game. I hope if realignment does occur our champion will get the opportunity to play a BCS member team in a fun yet exciting bowl game. Bowl season needs to be more meaningful, but that is a discussion for another thread.

You and I are clearly in differing frames of mind on this. When realignment happens I want and hope MAC schools never play "bcs" schools, there is no point to it. They will be so far above us, it would be like assuming that with the NFL reducing preseason games that those NFL would play BCS schools...
I think you are discounting one key thing that I weigh very heavily. That being once this separation takes hold, the MAC and those playing what ever our midmajors are called at this point, we will be playing for and honestly competing for National Championships. That is big, we will be playing on a FAIR and LEVEL field against reasonable opponents.
This one reason why I feel that when get the separation, we will play teams that would not otherwise see until playoffs come. I see people getting excited about this, and coming out in droves to support the team.
just a difference of op ion at this point. We will have to see what happens...I just want to be ride of the monopoly and dont want anythign to with them, we will be better off and more competitve with out them, and I bet our $ increase as a result.

[Chimie]

Why do you two keep going back and forth about this 4 super conference scenario? I really don't think it's going to happen. It was all basically hinging on the Pac 10 (12?) absorbing the Big 12 (10?), which would force the Big 10 (12?) into grabbing a few more members. The only problem is, the Big 10 never once mentioned expanding to 16 teams, it was all hypothetical dominoes.

It didn't happen, and I really don't see it happening in the future with the way the Big 12 situation played out.

[bgsukid]

It didn't happen, and I really don't see it happening in the future with the way the Big 12 situation played out.

The Big 12 situation if far from stable and it's going to blow up again. There's now an even bigger discrepancy of money distribution between Texas and Kansas, Missouri, KSU, ISU than there was before and they're going to get fed up sooner or later. This whole realignment thing isn't done, it's going to come up again in the next few years.

Also, if the super conferences happen BCS schools are still going to play mac schools becasue of reasons stated earlier about the conference season being so tough, they'll want easier games than playing ooc games against other super conferences. For those that think not playing BCS schools is a good idea, how exactly do you plan on making up for the paycheck you would've got from playing a game at Ohio State?

[Chimie]

It didn't happen, and I really don't see it happening in the future with the way the Big 12 situation played out.

The Big 12 situation if far from stable and it's going to blow up again. There's now an even bigger discrepancy of money distribution between Texas and Kansas, Missouri, KSU, ISU than there was before and they're going to get fed up sooner or later. This whole realignment thing isn't done, it's going to come up again in the next few years.

Also, if the super conferences happen BCS schools are still going to play mac schools becasue of reasons stated earlier about the conference season being so tough, they'll want easier games than playing ooc games against other super conferences. For those that think not playing BCS schools is a good idea, how exactly do you plan on making up for the paycheck you would've got from playing a game at Ohio State?

Yea, Kansas Missou, KSU, and ISU will be fed up. The only problem is, what is going to be done about it? The 4 of them break off? Doubtful. Kansas won't be left in the dust, they'd get picked up for sure, but the other 3 schools just don't have enough pull to get into another conference. No matter how much they dislike it, they don't have the major markets, nor the athletic strength to pull their weight in any other conference. The Texas and Oklahoma schools will pretty much stay together whatever happens after this new media deal they're working out. The situation is far from perfect, certainly far from stable, but with the way things ended up, the Texas schools seemed to have grabbed more power from the Big 12, and the Northern schools don't have the weight to even bluff them out of it. They're better off staying with Texas, no matter what happens. Downgrading to a non BCS conference won't do them any good.

Furthermore, sure, the Big 10 might want to expand again, especially if a ND piece falls the right way, but it's still doubtful they'd move to 16. Remember, conference realignment effects just about every major NCAA sport (Hockey being the major exception.) Many of the Big 10 and Pac 10 schools are already having fits trying to realign their schedules to include more teams--for example the Wisconsin volleyball team playing a game at Happy Valley on Friday, only to have to ship off by -bus- to Lincoln the very next day. The costs will be enormous as is, throwing in say Pitt wouldn't upset it too much but Rutgers or another of the rumored teams, it just doesn't make financial sense to get such a wide base unless the school in question -really- brings in the $$ like Nebraska does.

It should be obvious, this conference realignment isn't about Football. It's not about Basketball. It's not about sports. It's about money, plain and simple. Imagine going from Seattle to Austin--by bus, then back again. How much does it cost a football team to go out to a bowl game? Imagine that several times a year, for EVERY NCAA sport.

Most of this 16 team speculation is just that. Wild speculation and run away 'what if...' imaginations.

[FalconTurf]

Ultimately the Big12 schools need Kansas, Iowa State, Missouri & Kansas State just like the Big10 needs Indiana, Northwestern & Minnesota. Somebody must lose. Not every school can have a great record. And in order to be a power school someone else must be beaten but the power schools don't want to beat 0-12, 1-11, 2-10 & 3-9 school in their conference. Therefore, the schools mentioned above need mid-majors so they end up closer to .500 with a more reasonable non-conf. schedule. And every once in a while they will have that banner year.

A great conference would be USC, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Bowling Green. The big programs in this list would never agree to this conference not because of travel or BG but because they would fear this kind of competition.

[Globetrotter]

Yep...look at the SEC. They play crap OOC schedules because "they have to play each other".

On the topic of sports and college choices...intercollegiate athletics placed about 35th on my list of criteria. That was well below the availability of snacks...both sweet and salty...and ample parking at least 5 linear miles from lecture halls.

And do we have political avatars here? If we're going to get all girly and s**t about political discussion in threads with titles that clearly indicate they are of a political bent...should we allow ourselves to be ambushed by avatars that are supportive or critical of a particular politician?

I think that what you just did was exactly what got this place shut down for a little bit. Lets just avoid it.

[MACMAN]

Yep...look at the SEC. They play crap OOC schedules because "they have to play each other".

On the topic of sports and college choices...intercollegiate athletics placed about 35th on my list of criteria. That was well below the availability of snacks...both sweet and salty...and ample parking at least 5 linear miles from lecture halls.

And do we have political avatars here? If we're going to get all girly and s**t about political discussion in threads with titles that clearly indicate they are of a political bent...should we allow ourselves to be ambushed by avatars that are supportive or critical of a particular politician?

I think that what you just did was exactly what got this place shut down for a little bit. Lets just avoid it.

practice what you preach and drop the political avatar...which is also what shut the board down as well....Obama has nothing to do with Falcon sports

[Globetrotter]

Yep...look at the SEC. They play crap OOC schedules because "they have to play each other".

On the topic of sports and college choices...intercollegiate athletics placed about 35th on my list of criteria. That was well below the availability of snacks...both sweet and salty...and ample parking at least 5 linear miles from lecture halls.

And do we have political avatars here? If we're going to get all girly and s**t about political discussion in threads with titles that clearly indicate they are of a political bent...should we allow ourselves to be ambushed by avatars that are supportive or critical of a particular politician?

I think that what you just did was exactly what got this place shut down for a little bit. Lets just avoid it.

practice what you preach and drop the political avatar...which is also what shut the board down as well....Obama has nothing to do with Falcon sports

Someone has an avatar of Dexter holding a knife. What does that have to do with Falcon Sports? What does your Avatar have to do with Falcon sports. Its just a picture. I will gladly change it.

[MACMAN]

just saying Obama is a political figure...and that he has nothing to do with falcon sports or your support of them and he is a polarizing individual. I for one would appreciate an absence of politics on the board, I get fired up , but I would rather have this place a political free zone escape.

[Globetrotter]

just saying Obama is a political figure...and that he has nothing to do with falcon sports or your support of them and he is a polarizing individual. I for one would appreciate an absence of politics on the board, I get fired up , but I would rather have this place a political free zone escape.

Agreed, I am just surprised people notice the avatar.

[Flipper]

Hey...no politics should mean NO politics...not some politics or a little politics if it's just a picture...heck, I 86'd this avatar



because people who aren't aware of the band Bad Brains might have thought it was some kind of slap at Congress.

Thanks for changing it...now...your sig line is really long and kind of pretentious in a real earnest do goody kind of way. Could you change it to something about sex or flatulence?

[Globetrotter]

Hey...no politics should mean NO politics...not some politics or a little politics if it's just a picture...heck, I 86'd this avatar



because people who aren't aware of the band Bad Brains might have thought it was some kind of slap at Congress.

Thanks for changing it...now...your sig line is really long and kind of pretentious in a real earnest do goody kind of way. Could you change it to something about sex or flatulence?

I will change it, only because I put it up as a political response to those who were christians and against health care and it was not meant to be veiled.

[MACMAN]

Hey...no politics should mean NO politics...not some politics or a little politics if it's just a picture...heck, I 86'd this avatar



because people who aren't aware of the band Bad Brains might have thought it was some kind of slap at Congress.

Thanks for changing it...now...your sig line is really long and kind of pretentious in a real earnest do goody kind of way. Could you change it to something about sex or flatulence?

I will change it, only because I put it up as a political response to those who were christians and against health care and it was not meant to be veiled.

I am christian, I am against health care, not because I do not care for others, I give to charities and hospitals, I just know that it is not the place for the Federal government. States yes not the fed, there is clear and order power and the FED is last....but we need to aviod to politics in the open, if you would like to discuss I am avail via pm any time to agree to disagree.

[Globetrotter]

Hey...no politics should mean NO politics...not some politics or a little politics if it's just a picture...heck, I 86'd this avatar



because people who aren't aware of the band Bad Brains might have thought it was some kind of slap at Congress.

Thanks for changing it...now...your sig line is really long and kind of pretentious in a real earnest do goody kind of way. Could you change it to something about sex or flatulence?

I will change it, only because I put it up as a political response to those who were christians and against health care and it was not meant to be veiled.

I am christian, I am against health care, not because I do not care for others, I give to charities and hospitals, I just know that it is not the place for the Federal government. States yes not the fed, there is clear and order power and the FED is last....but we need to aviod to politics in the open, if you would like to discuss I am avail via pm any time to agree to disagree.

I dont want to discuss it.