Camellia Bowl Thread

[NIU007]

Congrats on the bowl win! I kept thinking you guys were going to pull away but USA kept battling back, to their credit. Made it interesting, that's for sure. Did they ever find the guy that threw something on the field and hit the ref?

[Schadenfreude]

Looking at the film, it seemed like there were mostly South Alabama fans over there. I sure hope it wasn't one of our fans.

Also just saw that hit Ronnie Moore put on that punt returner. Wow. I know Ronnie just wants to play football, but I can't argue with that call.

[Falconwriter]

Will Moore's ejection carry over to the first half of the Tennessee game?

I can't remember now: was the hit in the second half? If so, then yes. If not, then he's done serving his suspension.

I know players really want to make their mark in some ways, but how often do they have to be told not to lead with their helmets when tackling? I sure wasn't taught to tackle that way -- ever. So I'm not sure why anyone would even do it. It's dangerous. Hell, I saw the Dayton-BG game back in the early 70s where a Dayton player broke his neck doing that, and ended up dying.

[TG1996]

Will Moore's ejection carry over to the first half of the Tennessee game?

I can't remember now: was the hit in the second half? If so, then yes. If not, then he's done serving his suspension.

I know players really want to make their mark in some ways, but how often do they have to be told not to lead with their helmets when tackling? I sure wasn't taught to tackle that way -- ever. So I'm not sure why anyone would even do it. It's dangerous. Hell, I saw the Dayton-BG game back in the early 70s where a Dayton player broke his neck doing that, and ended up dying.

It was early in the second half. I would assume he'd have to sit out a half, but do suspensions carry from season to season?

[TG1996]

Will Moore's ejection carry over to the first half of the Tennessee game?

I can't remember now: was the hit in the second half? If so, then yes. If not, then he's done serving his suspension.

I know players really want to make their mark in some ways, but how often do they have to be told not to lead with their helmets when tackling? I sure wasn't taught to tackle that way -- ever. So I'm not sure why anyone would even do it. It's dangerous. Hell, I saw the Dayton-BG game back in the early 70s where a Dayton player broke his neck doing that, and ended up dying.

It was early in the second half. I would assume he'd have to sit out a half, but do suspensions carry from season to season?

Yes. Google first, post second.

An unfortunate good call, Falconwriter: http://www.ncaapublications.com/product ... o,-203,582" target="_blank

[Flipper]

Amazingly enough...Ziggy Ansah didn't kill Jimmy Clausen today

[Beaker]

I saw a different team in the bowl game, in that they looked like they wanted to be there and wanted to play hard, which didn't seem to be the case in the last few games of the season. That was great to see. I'm thrilled with a win and breaking the bowl losing streak, but despite the better effort put forth, there were still a TON of mistakes made and we were fortunate that we weren't playing even a slightly better team or our losing streak would have one more notch.

The dumb penalties, bad play calling at times, and terrible in game coaching decisions were themes that plagued this team through the season and carried into the bowl game. I hope coach Babers takes a step back and reviews every aspect of the season in detail and gives serious consideration to making changes that might correct some of these problems, whether it's how he handles discipline, schematic changes, staff changes or whatever it may be.

I'm not sold on this coach or his system, but I'm a BG fan all the way and will always pull for us, so I hope we see changes next year that will allow this team to reach full potential. We have to run the ball better next year. With the entire line and backfield returning, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to do that, but it may take some tweaks and maybe a fresh perspective from someone who is not currently on staff may be what's needed, I don't know. What I do know, is that this team will return enough talent that they should be in the conference championship game next year and show up with a much better effort than the one we just saw. I'm willing to give coach the benefit of the doubt being that this was his first season, the injuries had a big impact and anyone should be given the opportunity to make changes and corrections and come back better and stronger in the 2nd campaign. If we see a team and coaching staff on the field next year that looks and performs like what we saw this year and no corrections/improvements are made, then It'll be clear to me that we don't have the right leadership.

I'll be eagerly awaiting the kickoff in Nashville and ready to pull hard for the orange and brown.

[mscarn]

The dumb penalties, bad play calling at times, and terrible in game coaching decisions were themes that plagued this team through the season and carried into the bowl game. I hope coach Babers takes a step back and reviews every aspect of the season in detail and gives serious consideration to making changes that might correct some of these problems, whether it's how he handles discipline, schematic changes, staff changes or whatever it may be.

One thing he might consider is giving up the play calling and taking a big-picture role on game days. There's been stretches when we've had a rhythm going but most of the time it's extremely predictable, especially the running plays. The goal line series with the same formation and same exact play used three consecutive times (straight up the middle where all the defenders were) was cringe-worthy and never should have happened. Someone on the headset needs to be the voice of reason during those times. The fact that our linemen weigh 300 pounds (which was stated by the sideline reporter as the reason for all the running plays) isn't reason alone to do something when you're averaging 2 yards per carry and the plan you came into the game with needs to be altered.

[kdog27]

The running plays have been the most frustrating for me all year. I get that the play book shrunk for Knapke, but why did we need to be so one dimensional in our run calls? Travis Greene wasn't nearly as effective this year running straight behind the center. He is best on counters and misdirection where he can make someone miss at the line.

[Falcon137]

One thing he might consider is giving up the play calling and taking a big-picture role on game days. There's been stretches when we've had a rhythm going but most of the time it's extremely predictable, especially the running plays. The goal line series with the same formation and same exact play used three consecutive times (straight up the middle where all the defenders were) was cringe-worthy and never should have happened. Someone on the headset needs to be the voice of reason during those times. The fact that our linemen weigh 300 pounds (which was stated by the sideline reporter as the reason for all the running plays) isn't reason alone to do something when you're averaging 2 yards per carry and the plan you came into the game with needs to be altered.

I'm not sure if he needs to stop calling plays or start doing full time. For an offense that wants to go, go, go all the time, at times it was just weird playcalling.

You saw glimpes of what the offense was capable of. This is more of what I envisioned the offense would look like with Matt Johnson. Quick hitting plays and then you hit a big one.

Bgsu 1-10 at Usa47 BOWLING GREEN drive start at 06:00.
Bgsu 1-10 at Usa47 KNAPKE, James sideline pass complete to JACKSON, Heath for 9 yards to the USA38 (Harris, Maleki).
Bgsu 2-1 at Usa38 KNAPKE, James screen pass complete to JACKSON, Heath for 6 yards to the USA32, 1ST DOWN BGSU (Harris, Maleki).
Bgsu 1-10 at Usa32 KNAPKE, James middle pass complete to DIETER, Gehrig for 4 yards to the USA28 (Ford, Qudarius).
Bgsu 2-6 at Usa28 KNAPKE, James sideline pass complete to JACKSON, Heath for 11 yards to the USA17, 1ST DOWN BGSU (Ford, Qudarius).
Bgsu 1-10 at Usa17 GREENE, Travis rush up middle for 17 yards to the USA0, 1ST DOWN BGSU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 04:33.

5 plays, 47 yards, 1:27 for a TD.

The next drive was an 8 play drive for 24 yards that took 3:20. Hopefully next year we saw better rhythm from the offense as a whole.

[kdog27]

Good post 137. That drive was a perfect example and exactly what I envisioned we would look like. We would see glimpses of it all year where it would look great then like you said it would vanish with bizarre play calls the next series that usually had little chance at success. Seems like drives like that didn't happen nearly enough and I'm clueless why. We had 5-6 more than capable enough receivers to keep defenses guessing who is getting the ball and knapke is best at throwing those quick hitting plays where he knows where the ball is going before he snaps it.

[Beaker]

As soon as we hit the touchdown on that drive, I looked at my wife and said that may have been the first time this season that an offensive possession looked exactly like how it was supposed to look. I hope that will be a sign of things to come for next year.