New coach Mike Jinks...glass half empty??

[slashba33]

I decided to start a new post because the other seems to be all positive about this hire. He seems like a very likable, high energy guy that was very successful in Texas HS football. We are now the premier program in the MAC with two conference titles in 3 years and a deep roster of talent. We cannot afford to roll the dice on a coach that may be a "diamond in the rough". I think Kingston is a very solid AD and will give him the benefit of the doubt, but with the amount of coaching changes that have taken place this year this seems to be a reach.

Here are my main concerns with this hire.

1) No college HC experience - this to me is BIG. With Clawson and Babers, it was plug and play with the hire of them AND their staff. Jinks will have to convince a bunch of guys from other Texas school he has not worked with to move to Ohio.

2) Only 3 years in college coaching - again, another big issue with me. You can't tell me Texas HS football is like coaching a college team because it isn't. You have to recruit your players, you have alumni, boosters, administration on your case 24/7, keeping your players out of academic and social trouble and most of all, the NCAA. Also, don't compare this hire to Urban back in 2000/01. He had 15 years of college coaching experience before taking the job and was from the state of Ohio.

3) Never coached anywhere but Texas - how will he do recruiting in the mid-west and Florida where most of our key players are from? He may open avenues in Texas, but I think it will be a harder sell to get players out of there. Plus, Texas does not have the speed players that have been successful for us in the past.

I was hard on Babers when he got here, but he didn't bring the concerns with him as Jinks does. Is anyone else feeling the same??

[Globetrotter]

I would bet he will be fine. I do hope he hires some experienced college coaches to go with him. Which he did not with his OC. The Deep roster of talent thing is something that will be really good for him. He will retain a lot of them is my guess.

[Schadenfreude]

I thought orangeandbrown got it right in his first blog post about this. Kingston stuck his neck out here a bit. But, given his past hires, Kingston deserves the benefit of the doubt.

It seems to me the single biggest risk here is that Jinks won't be able to figure out Ohio. Recruiting Texas is fine, but if he can't figure out how to identify talent here in Middle America, he's going to have a tough time keeping the program at this level. Does Jinks's network include an assistant coach who can plausibly help him out in Ohio?

If Jinks is as personable as everyone says, that's hugely important. But it seems to me Jinks will need someone to show him what doors he needs to be knocking on in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and other parts of our core footprint.

[mscarn]

Babers told the Syracuse media concerned about Northeast recruiting ties that good recruiters can recruit anywhere they go. Our last recruiting coordinator (Andy Sowder) was from Texas. Out of the 9 full-time coaching positions (plus the DFO & Director of Player Personnel) they'll be ample room for people who know their way around the area. We absolutely must continue to recruit Florida hard as well.

People should read through the Texas Tech message board thread about Coach Jinks. Besides the usual "great coach" stuff, the thoughts included people

-thinking he was going to the University of Texas to help implement their new spread offense with Sonny Cumbie
-thinking he should actually take over for Kingsbury as the TTU head coach
-opining that this was a better hire than South Carolina and most other FBS schools this cycle
-commenting on how they knew this was coming because he's such an impressive person
-stating he was the best recruiter, practice coach and in-game coach they had on the staff

http://www.scout.com/college/texas-tech ... -confirmed" target="_blank

They absolutely love the guy. It bears repeating that three years in a high scoring offense in the Big 12 is what Art Briles had on his resume before taking his first college head coaching job. Talent is talent.

[Redwingtom]

People should read through the Texas Tech message board thread about Coach Jinks. Besides the usual "great coach" stuff, the thoughts included people

-thinking he was going to the University of Texas to help implement their new spread offense with Sonny Cumbie
-thinking he should actually take over for Kingsbury as the TTU head coach
-opining that this was a better hire than South Carolina and most other FBS schools this cycle
-commenting on how they knew this was coming because he's such an impressive person
-stating he was the best recruiter, practice coach and in-game coach they had on the staff

http://www.scout.com/college/texas-tech ... -confirmed" target="_blank

They absolutely love the guy. It bears repeating that three years in a high scoring offense in the Big 12 is what Art Briles had on his resume before taking his first college head coaching job. Talent is talent.

You left out this gem. LMFAO!

Plus, now he will get a sweet deal on a new Corvette, I reckon.

[Flipper]

If you can build relationships in Texas...you can build them in Florida or Ohio. It's not like you're a Shiite coach heading into Sunni high school.

[hammb]

If you can build relationships in Texas...you can build them in Florida or Ohio. It's not like you're a Shiite coach heading into Sunni high school.

Oh s**t...is he a muslim? Will Trump have him deported? WHY DIDN'T KINGSTON THINK OF THIS!!!


ZOMG!!!

[Redwingtom]

One thing I found interesting in reading their board is the number of posters suggesting that they find a high school coach to replace him with. Shows you what they think of High school football in Texas! And one poster pointed out that in his coaching gig at Steele High School that he basically built the whole program from scratch and took them to a title in 10 years.

[Redwingtom]

If you can build relationships in Texas...you can build them in Florida or Ohio. It's not like you're a Shiite coach heading into Sunni high school.

Oh s**t...is he a muslim? Will Trump have him deported? WHY DIDN'T KINGSTON THINK OF THIS!!!


ZOMG!!!

Oh geez...lol. I suppose we just ask him. I'm hearing that's Trump's plan, just ask them. I'm SURE he'll be honest.

[Flipper]

Well...at least he'll ask. It's not like he wants to just assume that the 45 year olds are war orphans.

Politics...the never ending stupid season

[Falcon137]

There's as much speed in Texas as there is in Florida. If he can get players from Texas, you don't HAVE to have Florida guys. BG just has no background in Texas like they do Florida. If he can build relationships there, they end up ahead of other MAC programs in the long haul.

[ChicagoFalcon98]

I'd only add that if anyone thinks that high school coaches in Texas don't have to recruit their players, and deal with boosters etc., then they don't know much about Texas high school football.

And speed, in Texas?...ummmm, have you seen the offenses being run by the Big 12 schools...where do you think a large % of those kids are from? Texas.

I can't imagine him coming into BG, looking at the successful pipeline we've had into Florida, and thinking "I'm just going to ignore that"...I'd have to think any coach worth his salt would seek to continue the relationships built down there. If he can do that, even at 75%, plus perhaps adding a few kids from Texas every year, BG will be fine in terms of talent.

[Firelands-Falcon]

I'd only add that if anyone thinks that high school coaches in Texas don't have to recruit their players, and deal with boosters etc., then they don't know much about Texas high school football.

And speed, in Texas?...ummmm, have you seen the offenses being run by the Big 12 schools...where do you think a large % of those kids are from? Texas.

I can't imagine him coming into BG, looking at the successful pipeline we've had into Florida, and thinking "I'm just going to ignore that"...I'd have to think any coach worth his salt would seek to continue the relationships built down there. If he can do that, even at 75%, plus perhaps adding a few kids from Texas every year, BG will be fine in terms of talent.

Going off of that, I really think that this is a good move. Kingston loves BGSU and is willing to do what it takes to keep us strong. I think that this was a good hire and that it will only provide us with more ways to get good talent - not only do we have the Midwest and Florida, but now Texas as well for recruiting. Excited to see what Coach Jinks does.

[Falconfreak90]

slashba33,

I do get your points and I think they are all valid. I've taken off the orange and brown glasses and know this is a bit of a risk. But from all the things I've read, heard and seen, I think Jinks will be a great coach for us.

[zete]

There is no question the guy is a good hire.
Yet, (see above) he has an unbelievable task ahead of him. There will be major adjustments for all involved with the program. Expectations are high here and Yes, all things considered, I would much rather see Babers and his staff happy and on the sidelines in Columbus on Sept 3. The question is how ready will they be come next season?
I really don't understand how we are able to confidently recruit players when they know good and well most coaches are here for the short term. It is a major barrier and a constant. Although, like most people on this board I try to remain positive and hope for favorable outcomes.