Roger Lewis eligible for the draft

[Globetrotter]

Agholar is not a catch in traffic big WR. He plays much more similar to Lewis than DGB.

[Globetrotter]

I would be beyond stunned if he goes in the first 3 rounds this year.

You were probably also stunned when Agholar went that high, also Dorsett. I was too. It's a changing league. Tyler Lockett is the best rookie WR right now. That will come into consideration around draft time. If you can get open and have great hands you are going earlier now and are being used more. They are ignoring size more often. Thanks Hilton-Steve Smith-DeSean-Antonio.

[hammb]

I would be beyond stunned if he goes in the first 3 rounds this year.

You were probably also stunned when Agholar went that high, also Dorsett. I was too. It's a changing league. Tyler Lockett is the best rookie WR right now. That will come into consideration around draft time. If you can get open and have great hands you are going earlier now and are being used more. They are ignoring size more often. Thanks Hilton-Steve Smith-DeSean-Antonio.

I wasn't at all stunned to see those guys go so high. They were both ridiculous athletes that played at traditional NFL talent pipeline schools.

What you keep missing is that the guys you are mentioning are insane athletes. Do you truly believe Lewis is on that level? I don't.

Dorsett, Smith, Desean, Hilton...these guys all ran sub 4.40 40 yard dashes at the combine. Unless my eyes are deceiving me Lewis doesn't look that fast. Brown didn't time that fast, but has all world change of direction skills which we haven't seen from Lewis either.

What I see in Lewis is a guy that has good hands and knows how to get open against college corners. He's largely a deep threat and has good ball skills adjusting to the ball in the air. I think there's a spot for him in the league, but without elite size, without elite athleticism, and likely not elite straight line speed, I don't see him going anywhere near as highly in the draft as you're suggesting. I guess I could listen to an argument whether another year of production at BG would help, but I believe it would.

If I'm wrong and he runs a sub 4.40 40 then I'll believe he can go in the top few rounds of the draft, but until he does I'm going to continue being of the belief he's not that type of prospect.

[sum1udontknow]

This got out of hand.

Also to clarify to all of you. Roger Lewis is listed at 6'2 which means hes likely 6'1 in real life. His speed has shown this year he has separation ability. Sitting on here bashing him not being fast enough or tall enough is literally ridiculous.

It takes 1 team or 1 scout to fall in love with a guy on tape or the combine...... based on his #s this year he put up.....along with his size.... he will get looks...and he will be looked at highly. Character question marks will arise but so will his original declaration to OSU and he will always be looked at in a scouts eye as a Big Ten recruit.

Clarifying whether he can be "Taller than 6'" or "run a sub 4.40" 40 is the kind of remarks that show how uneducated people really are on the draft process.
To put it in perspective.....4...FOUR!!!! WRs at the combine last year ran Sub-4.40 40's...... out of 45 WRs

[hammb]

This got out of hand.

Also to clarify to all of you. Roger Lewis is listed at 6'2 which means hes likely 6'1 in real life. His speed has shown this year he has separation ability. Sitting on here bashing him not being fast enough or tall enough is literally ridiculous.

It takes 1 team or 1 scout to fall in love with a guy on tape or the combine...... based on his #s this year he put up.....along with his size.... he will get looks...and he will be looked at highly. Character question marks will arise but so will his original declaration to OSU and he will always be looked at in a scouts eye as a Big Ten recruit.

Clarifying whether he can be "Taller than 6'" or "run a sub 4.40" 40 is the kind of remarks that show how uneducated people really are on the draft process.
To put it in perspective.....4...FOUR!!!! WRs at the combine last year ran Sub-4.40 40's...... out of 45 WRs

I'm a Browns fan. I follow the draft process more than I follow the NFL season, and definitely follow it more than I follow college football. Hell watching potential draft prospects is the only reason I watch any college football outside of BG.

And I'm not at all saying that Lewis cannot play at the next level. I'm not questioning for one second what he's done at BG, and I've said since day 1 he had the look of a future NFL player.

And I know the ability to run a sub 4.40 40 yard dash is rare. I also know that it's largely irrelevant in a guy's ability to play at the next level. Hell it really isn't even relevant to a guy's ability to get open deep, which Lewis has shown a penchant for since day 1 in Bowling Green.

Interesting that he is listed at 6'2...on the BG roster you're correct. ESPN.com has him listed at 6'0 and I've gone off that...and stilla ssumed he'd come in shorter than his ESPN listed height. I'll be very interested in how he checks out at the combine.

I know whole-heartedly it only takes one team or personnel guy to fall in love with him. I do believe the guy can play and has a ceiling as an NFL #2 WR. I know that he doesn't have to be over 6' tall or run under 4.40 to do well at the next level. I also know that those things ARE highly relevant when it comes to WRs from the MAC to get taken in the top couple rounds of the draft. THAT is my point. You say only a handful of guys ran sub 4.40 last year, and where did they get picked? And when you look at guys under 6' going high in the draft, what do almost all of them have in common? They're ridiculous athletes.

When I watch Lewis play I think he's got a good body and he's a good athlete and he has a penchant for getting open deep. I think there's a place for him in the NFL. But I do not see a transcendent athlete. If he checks in around 6'0 and runs a 4.49, which seem to be realistic projections to me there is no way he goes from BG with only 2 years of tape to a top 60 draft pick. THAT is my contention. It won't mean squat when it comes time for him to make a roster and carve out an NFL career, but that's not the discussion. The discussion is whether or not his prospect status is so great right now that it would behoove him to leave early. I don't believe it is. The guy will get drafted and play in the NFL, but if he leaves this year and doesn't post eye popping workout numbers he is not going to be a top 100 pick, IMO. His production will be seen as too greatly influenced by level of competition and the offensive system we have run.

[sum1udontknow]

That's a very intelligent response. I actually must say I am impressed. But we also have to remember that his 2 years of tape, look as good as any as far as his ability separating him from the level of play in the MAC. He's clearly ahead of that talent level.
This ultimately comes down to opinion and yes I agree with you if his combine workout #s aren't great it's hard to warrant him a top 100 pick but I also did originally state he was a 3rd to 5th rounded in my opinion based on what we've seen so far. 3rd being ceiling unless someone absolutely falls in love with him.
My biggest statement from this is not whether he was NFL ready or should...... but my opinion that he will be told his stock is highest now...and he should leave now. Yes he could come back next year and replicate #s but that's gonna be hard to wager to a guy who had "character" issues lost his commitment to the Buckeyes and the fact that it's gone in a heartbeat if he gets hurt. A guy like Rog doesn't get hurt his senior year and stay relevant in the draft process to where he is now.

Ultimately it sucks but I think he will be told it's the time to make that jump.

[Flipper]

I think he's closer to 4.6 than 4.4.

I think 6-0 is closer to reality than 6-2. I think he's a great player at this level and I'm glad to have him....but I don't think he'll grade out as 3rd round or higher pick. Doesn't mean he won't play at the next level. I hope he does...I don't see him as being a lock to get there.

Nobody drafts complimentary WR's round one...not since Matt Millen got fired.

[Globetrotter]

I think you guys are used to the Freddie Barnes of the world being our top WRs. This guy is a Big 10 level athlete to go with his BG stats.

[hammb]

That's a very intelligent response. I actually must say I am impressed. But we also have to remember that his 2 years of tape, look as good as any as far as his ability separating him from the level of play in the MAC. He's clearly ahead of that talent level.
This ultimately comes down to opinion and yes I agree with you if his combine workout #s aren't great it's hard to warrant him a top 100 pick but I also did originally state he was a 3rd to 5th rounded in my opinion based on what we've seen so far. 3rd being ceiling unless someone absolutely falls in love with him.
My biggest statement from this is not whether he was NFL ready or should...... but my opinion that he will be told his stock is highest now...and he should leave now. Yes he could come back next year and replicate #s but that's gonna be hard to wager to a guy who had "character" issues lost his commitment to the Buckeyes and the fact that it's gone in a heartbeat if he gets hurt. A guy like Rog doesn't get hurt his senior year and stay relevant in the draft process to where he is now.

Ultimately it sucks but I think he will be told it's the time to make that jump.

You could be right, but I still think his stock can go up. Mainly because I still think a lot of teams and a lot of scouts put a huge value on the guys they get to visit during the season and see during practice reps. I'm guessing that since he was largely unheard of outside of the MAC fans prior to the season there aren't many scouts that got here to see him. I also think as a Biletnikoff semifinalist this year every single team in the NFL would get a scout here for at least one week during next season. I think that is exactly why you see the guys that get drafted from the MAC have been relevant for 3 years in the conference. It takes time to get their name out there, and then another season to get scouts to come see them.

Having guys that have notes on having seen you live is HUGE if you don't ace the combine/workouts. Put together an insanely productive MAC career and tank the combine without any scouts having seen you live and they're going to write you off as a prospect that just put up numbers against inferior competition. Put up numbers for a 3rd year where all the teams already have a draft portfolio on you, and I think it buys some leeway if the workout numbers aren't great.

Obviously if he blows up the combine then it will be eye opening, but he's a guy that always seems to find a way to get open deep, but for some reason his speed doesn't pop for me. I think he runs good routes and finds a way to get open deep, but I don't think he is going to show the raw speed to open eyes for the teams that don't already know who he is.

If he is given the advice to leave I hope he takes it as a very serious decision. I hope he takes whatever the advisory committee tells him with a lot more weight than what the agents that stand to gain from his services tell him. Then if he decides to leave I hope he gets his ass to a really good trainer because I think the combine will be more important for him than it is for the average WR prospect.

[BGSU33]

If Lewis was hoping to use tonight to showcase this bowl as an audition to the NFL, it has shown exactly why he needs to come back to school. Balls right on the money and he's dropping them. He needs more time at. The NFL will be there in due time.

[hammb]

If Lewis was hoping to use tonight to showcase this bowl as an addition to the NFL, it has shown exactly why he needs to come back to school. Balls right on the money and he's dropping them. He needs more time at. The NFL will be there in due time.

He needs to come back and learn to run the route tree anyhow. Can't get drafted if all you run are go routes and hitches, if you don't also show elite speed.

The fact that he's had some bad drops didn't help.

[Flipper]

Stay in school...u r not E

[BGSU33]

Lewis just said after the game he hasn't made a decision yet about his future. The fact he's still uncertain leads me to believe he's gonna leave, which I think would be a big mistake. Suddenly Omar Jacobs comes to mind and we all know how his decision to leave BG early ended. And it wasn't good. Don't leave yet Roger. You're a very good player, the NFL is very likely in your cards, but just not yet.

[BGSU33]

I believe the deadline is January 15th. I really hope he comes back next year. For both BG and himself.

[hammb]

Lewis just said after the game he hasn't made a decision yet about his future. The fact he's still uncertain leads me to believe he's gonna leave, which I think would be a big mistake. Suddenly Omar Jacobs comes to mind and we all know how his decision to leave BG early ended. And it wasn't good. Don't leave yet Roger. You're a very good player, the NFL is very likely in your cards, but just not yet.

I don't think it means he's gonna leave. I think it means he is weighing his options and wants to hear from the committee where his stock is. I think he owes that to himself.

I also think the committee is gonna come back and tell him he's a 6th-7th rounder, and if he leaves with that analysis then more power to him, but it would be FOOLISH.