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Post by Falcon30 »

I really wish we could have won that game.

"Yay, we covered" just doesn't do it for me.

Omar looked pretty good...The rest of the MAC needs to watch out.
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Yeah, we definently belonged on the same field. After seeing Omar's debut, I like our chances against any team not named Oklahoma. I think we played better than anyone expected us to and we managed to keep their first team on the field till the end, which is more than almost all the Big XII teams could muster last year. The Sooners are one hell of a team.
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I'm sorry, but I don't get the same warm and fuzzy feeling that most of you will express throughout the weekend.

1. While looking good for most of the games, Omar's release point is way too low for someone that is 6'4" and not named John Navarre. Knocked-down passes will become a regular thing if this is not addressed at some point. His patience, calm, resolve and poise were amazing though.

2. We have to figure out a quicker way to snap the ball . . . Granted, we won't be in front of 82,000 again, but that needs to be addressed.

3. OU didn't blitz a lot, but other than Andy Grubb not keeping track of the cadence, I was pleasantly surprised by our O-Line, particularly new starters Andrew Hart and Korey Lichtensteiger. It's a little different than NWC competition, eh Korey? But he held up just fine.

4. 160 lb defensive backs will not cut it against top-flight D-1 competition. For someone who is 5'9"(Clayton) to put down a shoulder and run over Terrill Mayberry for another 6 yards is inexcusable. The overall defensive philosophy and tackling was atrocious and given more time, Kejaun Jones and Adrian Peterson could've had any number they wanted. I will not only pick on our smallish DBs, but our smallish D-Line too. They were rarely subsituted for and we're constantly blown off the line. Granted it's probably the best O-line in America, but we need to get bigger, stronger and faster in a hurry.

5. Keon at times looked to be the only guy on D willing to accept the OU challenge.

6. The receivers and PJ played exceptionally well and caused problems for OU all day.

7. Again, I just think we hit the panic button with this coaching staff in big game situations all too quick. Brandon's response to stopping OU's defense at halftime was "to keep our defense off the field." That's both encouraging and inspiring. It was nice to see us give up so soon on the pass in the second half only to find success later as well. :roll:
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Option, I agree. I want to add, I loved Omar's improvisational ablities and ability to throw on the run. I noticed his release point too...I don't remember him doing that last year.

Did anyone else feel like the offense was very conservative? I think the only drive in which we stretched the field was the 870 yard TD drive in the second half. Maybe I am nuts.
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Option, for the first time I agree with you on some things! Our tackling was terrible out there. Players were just diving at the OU guys without even being in position to even touch them. As far as Omar goes, I think his throwing style has been brought up before on here and I remember commenting to people at the Spring game about it. It almost seems like he's shot putting the ball out and it's not a complete over-hand throw. And like you said, if it doesn't get fixed, there will be deflected passes. I don't know how you can change that exactly though, he has probably been throwing that way his whole life so it's just his natural style now.

My biggest problem with the game was the fact that while ahead in the 4th quarter, OU went for it on 4th and 5. That is just unsportsman like and showed me how great of a coach Bob Stoops is. All he seems to care about is running up the score so his team looks better than they really are. Besides that, the game was well played both ways. BG made a good showing. Scoring 24 on OU is not an easy task so I commend them for giving it their all. GO FALCONS!
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Falcon30 wrote:I think the only drive in which we stretched the field was the 870 yard TD drive in the second half. Maybe I am nuts.
870 yard TD drive?! I must have missed that one :P
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I think Stoops was just trying to put the nail in the coffin so to say and put the game away for good. I wasn't surprised at all that he made the call that he did.
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Stoops wasnt running up the score when it was 4th and 5. The ball was on the 31 yard line. If he goes for the FG and it was blocked, then BG could cut the lead to less than a TD, although I wish he would have kicked it then, gave us more time on the clock. He just was looking to keep the clock going. If he wanted to run up the score he would not have kicked a 22 yd. FG, and would have tried harder the last two minutes. I actually think he called off the dogs at the end. Either way, I am verry proud of BG.
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McMetz811 wrote:My biggest problem with the game was the fact that while ahead in the 4th quarter, OU went for it on 4th and 5. That is just unsportsman like and showed me how great of a coach Bob Stoops is. All he seems to care about is running up the score so his team looks better than they really are.
I wouldn't go there with that at all. If anything, it speaks to what OU can expect from their kicking game, I don't remember exactly where they were on the field, but it would have been about a 45 yarder, right? If you can't trot a kid out to kick a long, but should be within range FG with a 14 point lead, what kind of confidence do you give the kid down the stretch? Either a stop on 4th down or a missed FG keeps BG's confidence rolling, so why not try to keep a drive going? It was only 4th and 5, not like he threw on 4th and 10 from their own end of the field.

I'm far from a football coach (nor do I play one on TV or elsewhere. Hell, I didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn last night!) but the main thing that "scares" me is there didn't seem to be much help in the def. backfield. Too many WR's finding seams after a CB let them go. While we might not face the likes of Clayton again, there are some damn fine WRs in the MAC that would love to exploit the same play.

While I'm not happy with losing a game we proved we could have been in and maybe even pulled out, I think I'll let myself get a little fuzzy over it, thank you.
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McMetz811 wrote:
Falcon30 wrote:I think the only drive in which we stretched the field was the 870 yard TD drive in the second half. Maybe I am nuts.
870 yard TD drive?! I must have missed that one :P
uhhhh...80 :lol: oops!

one more thing - How about Suisham nailing a 47 yarder!!!?!?!?
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BGSU_via_UDel, bgsufan1972, and TG1996...I am just a little bitter I guess. If they would have kicked it we would have had a good shot at winning so I just didn't like the call...lol. Yeah I follow why OU did it, but it bothered me that it seemed like they were sticking the nail in the coffin. Looking back now, it also shows that maybe they were scared to even chance something like that with BG.
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Falcon30 wrote:How about Suisham nailing a 47 yarder!!!?!?!?
That was an amazing kick from him. If he worked on his consistency in the off season, we could have a great kicker on our team. When that cleared the uprights, it wasn't low either. I remember the TV saying there was 0 wind and with how high it was going through the uprights, it could have gone for 55 yards atleast IMO.
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McMetz811 wrote: Looking back now, it also shows that maybe they were scared to even chance something like that with BG.
Yup. OSU last year was up 17 with even less time than that left, and they were a knockaway and a pick away from playing OT with us.
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TG1996 wrote:
McMetz811 wrote: Looking back now, it also shows that maybe they were scared to even chance something like that with BG.
Yup. OSU last year was up 17 with even less time than that left, and they were a knockaway and a pick away from playing OT with us.
a.) I think Greeg Brandon would have gone for two ;)

b.) I feel better about this game than I did after OSU. I doubt OU has very many games within 20 points this year. Our offense is going to be fine, our defense will be OK...I think it is going to be a fun year.
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4. 160 lb defensive backs will not cut it against top-flight D-1 competition. For someone who is 5'9"(Clayton) to put down a shoulder and run over Terrill Mayberry for another 6 yards is inexcusable.
Clayton is 5'11 and he's done that with a ton of great DBs in his 3+ years also. Clayton is probably OU's best football player outside of White and maybe Runnels.
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