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[mbenecke]

Georgia State HC Shawn Elliott is leaving after 7 seasons to be a position coach at South Carolina. It's insane that a position coach at a P4 school is a better gig than being a HC at a G5 school, but here we are. This is college football.

I find this one especially dirty because spring ball starts in the next few days/weeks in a lot of places, and he left after both signing periods. Players can still hit the portal, but man... that's a gross move, to me.

The cycle continues.

[hammb]

Georgia State HC Shawn Elliott is leaving after 7 seasons to be a position coach at South Carolina. It's insane that a position coach at a P4 school is a better gig than being a HC at a G5 school, but here we are. This is college football.

I find this one especially dirty because spring ball starts in the next few days/weeks in a lot of places, and he left after both signing periods. Players can still hit the portal, but man... that's a gross move, to me.

The cycle continues.

Can't speak to the specifics of GSU vs SC, but just staying here in state it's not even remotely comparable. Coordinator at OSU/UM/ND is a vastly better job than HC at BG. They make 7 figures+ so it's easily a 2-5x salary improvement. In terms of climbing the ladder it is far better to be a successful coordinator at a major school than it is HC at BG. There is a reason why our HCs that move on end up at also ran P5 programs and not prestigious ones.

Not to mention just the pure headaches of the jobs. Being the HC, juggling the entire operation and donors and everything else vs just being a football coach (obviously recruiting is key at all positions).

And all this is true while I also believe our HC is VASTLY overpaid. BGSU has no business paying anywhere near what Loeffler makes.

[mbenecke]

Georgia State HC Shawn Elliott is leaving after 7 seasons to be a position coach at South Carolina. It's insane that a position coach at a P4 school is a better gig than being a HC at a G5 school, but here we are. This is college football.

I find this one especially dirty because spring ball starts in the next few days/weeks in a lot of places, and he left after both signing periods. Players can still hit the portal, but man... that's a gross move, to me.

The cycle continues.

Can't speak to the specifics of GSU vs SC, but just staying here in state it's not even remotely comparable. Coordinator at OSU/UM/ND is a vastly better job than HC at BG. They make 7 figures+ so it's easily a 2-5x salary improvement. In terms of climbing the ladder it is far better to be a successful coordinator at a major school than it is HC at BG. There is a reason why our HCs that move on end up at also ran P5 programs and not prestigious ones.

Not to mention just the pure headaches of the jobs. Being the HC, juggling the entire operation and donors and everything else vs just being a football coach (obviously recruiting is key at all positions).

And all this is true while I also believe our HC is VASTLY overpaid. BGSU has no business paying anywhere near what Loeffler makes.

I totally agree with what you said. But what makes it even crazier to me is that he left for a position coach job! He's not calling plays or anything, just has a room of like 6-8 guys that he'll be coaching.

Just tells you the type of person we're going to have to hire next time we bring in a head coach, whenever that is. A position coach at a P4 is too good of a gig to come here, so we will have to think lower than that.

[Flipper]

The MAC...not just Miami...has always been viewed as a solid proving ground for HC's. Win here and you will get a shot at a HC gig at a bigger school. Now we're viewed as what...exactly? A proving ground for P4 assistants?

Paying as much as we do is a vestige of the era when the thinking was that we had to pay more to draw talent. What are we competing for now?

It's amazing how the landscape has changed so much in the time since Loeffler was hired. OSU hires a former NFL HC to be an OC...UM hires a former NFL DC to run their defense. OSU is laying out over $10 million in NIL cash this off season

The lines between the NFL and the P4 are really blurring

[mbenecke]

Exactly how it feels. If Loeffler is good enough this year, maybe he will be good enough to be an analyst at Rutgers next year!

It's insane to think about. This level of college football essentially means nothing to anyone except us.

[Flipper]

I know...my feelings about Loeffler as a coach are well documented, but I will say that he's brought an air of stability to our situation that some of our conference brethren should envy.

College football was so much fun...now...much less so

[hammb]

I don't think we can discount how awful NIL stuff is for HCs as well. They now have to kowtow to these donor collectives even moreso than they ever did in the past. It's very much become Blue Chips trying to find the money to get Ricky Roe's dad a tractor and Butch's mom a house. But for 85 different kids who are coming back with new NIL demands every offseason or they'll hit the portal.

We all know our level of football gets next to zero media attention, but it should get more attention regarding where it's at financially. Instead what you hear on ESPN or podcasts or whatever other sports media you choose is the generic: The NCAA is making BILLIONS off these kids!!1! And no doubt that there are 20-30 programs that can virtually print whatever money they need. Want to land a recruit, call donor xyz and tell him he wants a tractor. But for the bulk of Division1 that is simply not the reality. Yes, Purdue football makes a lot of money off Big10 media rights or whatever, but does anybody ACTUALLY thinks they can go out and spend a half million bucks to land a new QB? I sure as hell don't, and nobody in the media likely does either, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if a good chunk of potential players do NOT realize that. See any number of stories about random players asking for absurd money from whatever teams.

[Tony4BG]

Alabama - Nick Saban retired, hired Kalen DeBoer UW HC
Arizona - Jedd Fisch left, hired Brent Brennan SJSU HC
Boise St - Andy Avalos out, hired Spencer Danielson Boise St Interim HC
Boston College - Jeff Hafley left, hired Bill O'Brien OSU OC
Buffalo - Maurice Linguist left, hired Pete Lembo South Carolina STC
Duke - Mike Elko left, hired Manny Diaz Penn St DC
Georgia St - Shawn Elliott left, hired Dell McGee Georgia RB Coach
Houston - Dana Holgorsen out, hired Willie Fritz Tulane HC
Indiana - Tom Allen out, hired Curt Cignetti JMU HC
James Madison - Curt Cignetti left, hired Bob Chesney Holy Cross HC
Michigan - Jim Harbaugh left, promoted Sherrone Moore
Michigan St - Mel Tucker out, hired Jonathan Smith Oregon St HC
Middle Tenn - Rick Stockstill out, hired Derek Mason Oklahoma St DC
Miss St - Zach Arnett out, hired Jeff Lebby Oklahoma OC
Nevada - Ken Wilson out, hired Jeff Choate Texas Co-DC
New Mexico - Danny Gonzales out, hired Bronco Mendenhall ex-HC UVA
New Mexico St - Jerry Kill left, promoted Tony Sanchez
Northwestern - Pat Fitzgerald out, promoted David Braun
Oregon St - Jonathan Smith left, promoted Trent Bray
San Diego St - Brady Hoke retired, hired Sean Lewis ex-OC Colorado, ex-HC Kent State
South Alabama - Kane Wommack left, promoted Major Applewhite
San Jose St - Brent Brennan left, hired Ken Niumatalolo
Syracuse - Dino Babers out, hired Fran Brown UGA DB Coach
Texas A&M - Jimbo Fisher out, hired Mike Elko Duke HC
Troy - Jon Sumrall left, hired Gerard Parker ND OC
Tulane - Willie Fritz left, hired Jon Sumrall Troy HC
UCLA - Chip Kelly left, hired DeShaun Foster UCLA RBs coach
UL Monroe - Terry Bowden out, hired Bryant Vincent New Mexico OC
UTEP - Dana Dimel out. hired Scotty Walden HC Austin Peay
Washington - Kalen DeBoer left, hired Jedd Fisch Arizona HC
Wyoming - Craig Bohl retired, promoted Jay Sawvel

[Tony4BG]

Dell McGee hired at GSU

[Globetrotter]

Anyone remember who Buffalo interviewed outside of Lembo?