ESPN out of coaches poll

[kdog27]

The BCS in GENERAL is a mess and I think that was proven after last year's Championship Title Game. Of course USC should've been #1, but even before OU got hammered, Auburn should've been in their place-they were a flat-out better team than OU was and the Orange Bowl only proved that point.

How do you know that Auburn or even utah would have done any better? There is no way to know.

[BGFan]

A playoff system only works if you just take conference winners and thow them in a tournament. if it includes more than just conference winners then you have the same problems picking out the other participants for the playoffs as you do today. There would be biases, and teams would be left out that others think should have had an opportunity. there is going to be a problem with it no matter what. so i have just accepted it as it is.

if you base it on records, some teams will have it easier then others and get an unfair advantage that way.USC's schedule this year is a cake walk by the way and will lose a national title game because they are gonna get used to running over high school teams. i think the polls need to stay and make the votes public like they are trying to do so the coaches are more carefull and fair about their votes.

So, take the human polls completely out of the equations and use only a computer poll that all of the conferences can agree on to determine who the best teams actually are. The polls can still exist for all I care, but only one of them will matter, the one based solely on the facts.

I still think that some type of playoff could be constructed, however. Let the league champions duke it out while the rest play in post seaon bowls as a reward for their fine season. I don't know....anything would be better then what we have now.

[Falcon30]

I think the question now is what do you to with the BCS if the human polls are either being removed or severly questioned?

No AP poll, the coaches' poll is under fire...what next?

[BGALUMNI]

A playoff system only works if you just take conference winners and thow them in a tournament. if it includes more than just conference winners then you have the same problems picking out the other participants for the playoffs as you do today. There would be biases, and teams would be left out that others think should have had an opportunity. there is going to be a problem with it no matter what. so i have just accepted it as it is.

if you base it on records, some teams will have it easier then others and get an unfair advantage that way.USC's schedule this year is a cake walk by the way and will lose a national title game because they are gonna get used to running over high school teams. i think the polls need to stay and make the votes public like they are trying to do so the coaches are more carefull and fair about their votes.

No you don't just take conference winners. It would include the conference winners and At-Large bids as well in a tournament. But at least everyone would have a shot that is a Div. 1A program.

So the polls would still be useful in ranking the At-Large teams into the tournament. Just like the basketball tourney, just fewer teams.

Once the teams are in the tournament, they are then seeded. It isn't really all that complicated and it only adds two additional games at most.

[tekekini]

No you don't just take conference winners. It would include the conference winners and At-Large bids as well in a tournament. But at least everyone would have a shot that is a Div. 1A program.

So the polls would still be useful in ranking the At-Large teams into the tournament. Just like the basketball tourney, just fewer teams.

Once the teams are in the tournament, they are then seeded. It isn't really all that complicated and it only adds two additional games at most.

some deserving teams still get screwed at large bids in a playoff would favor the major conferences over mid's just like bowl game at-larges. especially if it is determined by polls

[kdog27]

but at least every single team would have a chance. The at large selection process could never be perfect. This way at least every single team at week 1 has a chance at winning the national chapmionship. Currently this is not the case. Without one there is no way to tell whether you were right in saying utah was "weak". There is no way to know that USC was better than Utah or Auburn. They probably were but that is purely speculation.

[BGALUMNI]

but at least every single team would have a chance. The at large selection process could never be perfect. This way at least every single team at week 1 has a chance at winning the national chapmionship. Currently this is not the case. Without one there is no way to tell whether you were right in saying utah was "weak". There is no way to know that USC was better than Utah or Auburn. They probably were but that is purely speculation.

Exactly kdog...

If a team wins their conference, they have a shot. That is more than what North Texas has right now. They have NO chance. NONE. Zero of winning a National Title.

Even if the At large selections favored the traditional powerhouse conferences, that doesn't mean a team like BG would be shut out. Even if they lost the conf. champ game after going undefeated with a quality non-conference sched, the would still have a shot, because the At Large selection would be more like the basketball at large picks.

For instance this season. If BG won all it's games, but lost to in the MAC Champ game to a solid team, AND Boise State won their conference and Wisconsin won the Big 10 after only losing to BG, then I think BG would get a serious look at an At large bid.

At least it would be a REAL champion that the NCAA would sanction and would be more equitable than what we have now. . (Yes that is right the NCAA doesn't sanction the college football championship in Div 1A and won't until they have a tournament.)

[transfer2BGSU]

Read on USA Today.com that there were talks with an Internet site to take over for ESPN in sponsoring the coaches poll. It's going to be renamed the USA Today/Ay-Ziggy-Zoomba.com Coaches Poll.