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Sucks? Taking the high road I see.

I thought you were smarter than that. Now I remember why I hated living in Ohio. People in love with the Big 11.

I love BG, but Ohio (Edit:) and Ohio State fans are something I can live without.

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Thought I could at least find reasonable people on this board, but I was wrong.

I am out...

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Sorry, I thought sucks was acceptable to use as an adjective in today's lexicon.

How about I say that I think the Big XII is not nearly as good as their reputation would suggest...
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BGALUMNI wrote:
hammb wrote:The Big XII is overrated. Texas & Oklahoma are the only schools there that I think could consistently beat BG. Year in, year out its the most overrated conference in college football. They all schedule the biggest patsies they can OOC and build up huge records, so every team in the conference is 3-1 or 4-0 coming into conference play. At the end of the year they have a great overall record, but they're never as good as that record would indicate.

Smith is a great athlete, but BG's defense totally stoned him 2 years ago. Since that game, I've had a real hard time thinking that he's anything special. Of course he could've (and should've) improved since that time, but its the only time I saw him play live, so its what sticks with me.

As for Omar with Miami's WRs? Nance is great, no doubt, but on the whole I like BG's corps better than Miami's. Robinson is an outstanding PR, but he's not any better than Sanders or Sharon, and I think Partridge might end up being better as well. I'll keep BG's corps, thanks :)

LOL...the Big 12 might be, but not nearly as overrated as the Big 11...I mean Ten...

AND don't make the mistake of knocking their OOC schedules. Many Big 12 Teams had MAC teams on their schedules the last couple of years. We can't build up the MAC and at the same time knock the Big 12 for playing lower level MAC teams. That just doesn't make sense.

Smith in 2003 would have given BG fits. It would have been close and I don't know who would have won, but it would have been a good game.That was before the tinkering by Pinkel.

EDIT: Stone Walled? 334 yards isn't exactly a stone wall hammb. Looking back, it was more of the fact that BG managed to contain the run and Harris and Alls were able to score on the Mizzou defense. So I wouldn't call that a stone wall peformance.

I live in the heart of Big XII country and get to see them play much more than most BG fans. I have to say that Texas, Colorado, Oklahoma, Ok St., Kansas State, and even Mizzou would easily give BG a run for their money every year.

I say that because I have a ton of respect for the MAC, BG and the Big XII.

I can't stand it when people have to knock other conferences and teams in the hopes of making theirs look better.
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BGSU-Ph.D....and the talking heads keep on talking...but that is exactly what I was saying.

The Big 10 are the media darlings every year.

Talking heads always have an opinion and most of the time the opinion is that BG or the top MAC teams can't compete, yet you are listening to them now.


Look at the computer rankings at the end of last season. Again, the Big 10 dropped.
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BGSU-Ph.D. wrote: I wasn't knocking any conference. But, there are teams and conferences that schedule weak OOC opponents on a consistent basis. Yes, the MAC relies on teams being willing to schedule Buffalo and directional Michigan, but some of these "bigger" schools load up on 1-AA and the worst 1-A opponents they can find.
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Baylor- SMU, Samford, Army
Texas Tech- FIU, Sam Houston, Indiana St. That maybe the weakest schedule ever and they will probably be in the top 15 after it.
A&M- Clemson, SMU, Texas St.
Oklahoma St- Montana St, FAU, Arkansas St. Close contender with TT
Kansas St.-Fiu, Marshall, North Texas
Kansas- FAU, Appalachian St. La Tech
Nebraska- Maine, WF, Pitt.
Oklahoma- TCU, Tulsa, UCLA
Missouri- Arkansas St. Troy, New Mexico,
Iowa St.- Iowa, Illinois St. Army
Texas- Ohio St. Rice, La Laf.
Colorado- Colorado St. New Mexico St. Miami. Least somebody has some balls.

There are a bunch of mediocre teams in there that will enter conference play 3-0.
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BGALUMNI wrote:BGSU-Ph.D....and the talking heads keep on talking...but that is exactly what I was saying.

The Big 10 are the media darlings every year.

Talking heads always have an opinion and most of the time the opinion is that BG or the top MAC teams can't compete, yet you are listening to them now.


Look at the computer rankings at the end of last season. Again, the Big 10 dropped.
Maybe we listen to different talking heads, but my recollection heading into last year was that most were calling the SEC the number one conference (this had been the case for many years in a row), followed by the Big 12. Then, it was a toss-up between the ACC and Big Ten for the 3rd and 4th spots.

I'm not "listening" to anyone. I'm simply providing links.
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The Big 10 doesn't have a bottom feeder school like Baylor. And I mean that in more than football terms.

Plus, if you think the Big10 are media darlings, you really need to get out more. The only ESPN analyst that is even close to being pro-Big 10 is Herbie. It sure as heck isn't Trev (still making excuses for Okie getting drubbed, and can't say anything bad about the Big XII); May is decent, but very pro-ACC (I guess he has to be, since his alma mater's conf. blows), and Fowler also loves the Big XII (I guess being a Colorado alum will do that). Although I think the SEC gets more love than any other conference, and is deserved athletically if not ethically in some cases, the Big XII is always next on the media's list for positive references.
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:roll:

Nice to see this has turned into a bash the Big 12 thread...for crying out loud.
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