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Schadenfreude wrote:Seems to me a kid could go to BGSU on the 10-year plan, pay his way for the first three years and never even see the football field, but still have four years of eligiblility.
That is only if he is a part-time student and not on scholarship. Once a student registers as a full-time student, they essentially have five calendar years to use their eligibility for Division I sports. So, if Nick was to register as a part-time student (less than 12 hrs) or postpone enrollment until spring semester, he would retain all four years of active playing eligibilty plus a redshirt year if needed. Once he registers as a full-time student, the clock would then begin to tick.
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You know, I may be in the minority but, I hope this guy can overcome this, and become a productive part of society. Hopefully his story will keep others from doing the same thing. It sounds like he is trying to turn it around. And that takes guts.
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MiamiBando wrote:You know, I may be in the minority but, I hope this guy can overcome this, and become a productive part of society. Hopefully his story will keep others from doing the same thing. It sounds like he is trying to turn it around. And that takes guts.
I wouldn't say your are in the minority here.Perhaps on an opposing teams messageboard you would be, but not on AZZ. I would venture to say that most BG fans would like to see Nick turn things around. But to say it takes guts to turn things around is giving him to much credit. He needs to acknowledge his mistakes, accept responsibilty and try to move on with his life, which what he appears to be attempting. This is what I would expect out of anyone in his situation and don't think he needs anymore credit for having guts. Having guts would have been not to do the things he did to get in trouble to begin with.
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Schadenfreude wrote:But wouldn't the clock only start ticking if a grant-in-aid is actually being used?

Seems to me a kid could go to BGSU on the 10-year plan, pay his way for the first three years and never even see the football field, but still have four years of eligiblility.

Am I wrong?
Yes. You are wrong.

You have ten semesters to play eight.

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transfer2BGSU wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:But wouldn't the clock only start ticking if a grant-in-aid is actually being used?

Seems to me a kid could go to BGSU on the 10-year plan, pay his way for the first three years and never even see the football field, but still have four years of eligiblility.

Am I wrong?
Yes. You are wrong.

You have ten semesters to play eight.

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Okay. I'm standing down.

Just wanted to make sure. :)
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Schadenfreude wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:But wouldn't the clock only start ticking if a grant-in-aid is actually being used?

Seems to me a kid could go to BGSU on the 10-year plan, pay his way for the first three years and never even see the football field, but still have four years of eligiblility.

Am I wrong?
Yes. You are wrong.

You have ten semesters to play eight.

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Okay. I'm standing down.

Just wanted to make sure. :)
Wait. I take it back.

I attended Bowling Green 1988-92. Got a bachelor's on the four-year plan. Never got closer to the field than about the 20th row, not even when we beat Toledo to seal a MAC title in 1991.

Let's say I enroll at Capital Law School and want to try out for the team and play some OAC ball.

You all saying I have just one year of eligiblity left?

Dang.
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duckunder53 wrote:"I'm glad I was caught," said Lawrence, son of Brighton Mayor Kate Lawrence. "I'm glad it was now. I hope I serve as an example ... (that) if you involve yourself with drugs you will lose in the end. "

Money is the root of all evil.
"The love of money is the root of all evil". Money, itself, isn't. :wink:
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Falconfreak90 wrote:
duckunder53 wrote:"I'm glad I was caught," said Lawrence, son of Brighton Mayor Kate Lawrence. "I'm glad it was now. I hope I serve as an example ... (that) if you involve yourself with drugs you will lose in the end. "

Money is the root of all evil.
"The love of money is the root of all evil". Money, itself, isn't. :wink:
Something like that, lol.
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Schadenfreude wrote:I attended Bowling Green 1988-92. Got a bachelor's on the four-year plan. Never got closer to the field than about the 20th row, not even when we beat Toledo to seal a MAC title in 1991.

Let's say I enroll at Capital Law School and want to try out for the team and play some OAC ball.

You all saying I have just one year of eligiblity left?
Nope.

But if you return to BG - yes. NCAA stupid eligibility rule requires a student-athlete that gets a degree to play at the institution granting the degree (no transferring with eligibility after graduating).

There's a current court case involving a volleyball player. I think she did her undergrad at Canisius and wants to play her final year of volleyball at Georgetown (where she is pursuing her masters).
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Is this a new rule or just a Division I-A rule? Georgetown had a law student as their kicker several years ago. The kid played two years at Kentucky and then played Patriot League ball while he was enrolled at GULC.

http://www.thehoya.com/sports/111700/sports5.htm
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DevilGrad wrote:Is this a new rule or just a Division I-A rule? Georgetown had a law student as their kicker several years ago. The kid played two years at Kentucky and then played Patriot League ball while he was enrolled at GULC.

http://www.thehoya.com/sports/111700/sports5.htm
http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/members ... asons.html

A student-athlete who is enrolled in a graduate or professional school of the college or university which he/she previously attended as an undergraduate student may participate in intercollegiate athletics, provided he/she has eligibility remaining and is within five calendar years of initial full-time collegiate enrollment for Division I and within the first ten full-time semesters of collegiate enrollment for Divisions II and III.

A student-athlete who has eligibility remaining and is within the specified five-year or ten-semester period also may participate while enrolled in a graduate or professional school at a Division I or II college or university other than the institution at which he/she completed an undergraduate degree, provided he/she meets the criteria of the one-time transfer exception to the general transfer residence requirement. That exception is as follows:

* The student-athlete must be seeking to participate in a sport other than Division I football, basketball and men's ice hockey, except that a student-athlete who seeks to participate in Division I-AA football may use this exception only if transferring from a Division I-A program.
* The student-athlete may not have transferred previously from another four-year institution unless he/she transferred previously and received an exception to the transfer residence requirement because his/her institution either discontinued the sport or did not sponsor the sport in which the student-athlete is a participant.
* The student must have been in good academic standing and eligible to compete had he/she decided to remain at the previous institution.
* The student-athlete's previous institution must certify in writing that it has no objection to the student-athlete being granted an exception to the transfer residence requirement.

NOTE: This exception does not apply to a student-athlete who attends a Division III institution for graduate school, unless the student-athlete is attending the same institution at which he/she was an undergraduate.

NOTE: If the student-athlete transfers to the certifying institution from a Division III member institution and meets the above-mentioned conditions, he or she may be eligible to compete but may not receive athletically related financial aid during that year.
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