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So you will give another $15.00 to a department that already takes over 50% of your general fee? I guess I would have thought the $300.00 plus per semester you were paying to the department would be enough to get you priority seating. Again, Falcon athletics should not be about the haves and have nots, it should be about college students cheering for their team because it is what they want to do. Look at how many good student groups have come from grass roots beginnings. The Anderson Animals are a perfect example, and now their loyalty may come down to paying $15.00 to be in the seats they sit in. It's not right. If I were still there as a student I would look the department in the face, tell them to take it out of the money I have already paid to them this year, and go sit with other students who are there to cheer the Falcons regardless of where their seats are. Some don't agree with me and that is perfectly fine. In the end, money paid or not, we are all supporting the FALCONS!
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I love my Falcon Sports.

With that being said, at times I think there's many things at this university which needs to be fixed above other expenditures. It's too late, but maybe tomorrow I'll get out the figures of where each students fees go. Hell, a decent chunk of the money goes to the ice arena while the library is falling apart.
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It's the Journey... wrote:So you will give another $15.00 to a department that already takes over 50% of your general fee? I guess I would have thought the $300.00 plus per semester you were paying to the department would be enough to get you priority seating. Again, Falcon athletics should not be about the haves and have nots, it should be about college students cheering for their team because it is what they want to do. Look at how many good student groups have come from grass roots beginnings. The Anderson Animals are a perfect example, and now their loyalty may come down to paying $15.00 to be in the seats they sit in. It's not right. If I were still there as a student I would look the department in the face, tell them to take it out of the money I have already paid to them this year, and go sit with other students who are there to cheer the Falcons regardless of where their seats are. Some don't agree with me and that is perfectly fine. In the end, money paid or not, we are all supporting the FALCONS!
Funny that one of the starters of the Animals had part in this new group. Matt, how about for once in your life you be happy that they are trying new ways of getting students to the games. Obviously putting up signs and saying there is a game doesn't work. I don't care how they get student fans to games, just get them there. My membership form is filled out and will be turned in tomorrow.

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Metz wrote:
It's the Journey... wrote:So you will give another $15.00 to a department that already takes over 50% of your general fee? I guess I would have thought the $300.00 plus per semester you were paying to the department would be enough to get you priority seating. Again, Falcon athletics should not be about the haves and have nots, it should be about college students cheering for their team because it is what they want to do. Look at how many good student groups have come from grass roots beginnings. The Anderson Animals are a perfect example, and now their loyalty may come down to paying $15.00 to be in the seats they sit in. It's not right. If I were still there as a student I would look the department in the face, tell them to take it out of the money I have already paid to them this year, and go sit with other students who are there to cheer the Falcons regardless of where their seats are. Some don't agree with me and that is perfectly fine. In the end, money paid or not, we are all supporting the FALCONS!
Funny that one of the starters of the Animals had part in this new group. Matt, how about for once in your life you be happy that they are trying new ways of getting students to the games. Obviously putting up signs and saying there is a game doesn't work. I don't care how they get student fans to games, just get them there. My membership form is filled out and will be turned in tomorrow.
Thank you Mr. Metz. You just saved me quite a bit of typing.

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Well, I remember when another creator of the animals was kept out of this group. Nothing against you mike or any of the people who started this. But come on, first off this will do nothing but split the student section up. The idea of having a name for the student section is great but paying is not. Having to be a member of a group that you are already a part of is outrageous. Go to the Flock site and ask yourself what sports does this apply to? Where will my seat be? Can I sit with people that I know? What exactly does priority seating mean? There are so many questions left unanswered. It even gives you a number to call, I think it said "contact" then a number without a name. This won't get more students to come. I think it will do the opposite. Yeah you'll get lots of freshmen to come and the students that are already there will come, but you are leaving out such big group of students that might not go to every game and $15 isn’t worth it. What if you only go to football games? What happens if the flock section doesn't fill up? Will others be allowed to sit there? It's a great idea, and yeah the idea might take off in a few years, but what about now, what about this season? We are going to have two student sections, and it will quickly turn into a power struggle.
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The best way to get people to the games is to WIN. And we are 1-2 right now. When you start winning everything else will fall into place. We spend way to much time trying to get on tv and sell out or games, we should focus on winning. Let the tv and sell outs come. EMU students don't go to games because they don't win, it's not because the team isn't marketed. Trust me I went to emu my first year. They have the gang green something much like "The Flock" and we have twice the amount of students at games.
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i'm with bacn3

students who dont want to pay the 15 dollars are going to avoid going to the games because they can't sit where they want to...people who are not in the group are going to start getting there earlier and then the group is going to have to fight for their spots


i am curious as to how they are going to identify the group from non group "flock" i guess it is called? do they get special wrist bands or something? do they have to wear the shirts they get for joining? what about when it is cold and people where jackets that cover up those things?


i see a lot of fights, arguments, and more people being turned away than comming to the game
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also i dont know about the animals, cos i havent been around since they formed but the sideline squad...everyone not in that group that I know thought they were extremely ANNOYING.

they thought they owned the friggin place. everyone hated them just never told them.
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Students join the campus republicans or a fraternity or sorority they shouldn’t have to join a group to go to games.
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they shouldnt have to join a group of any kind period. if they choose not too thats their own problems but they can't be forced to do anything..this is the U.S. not the Taliban
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No offense to the band... or any band...but ya know what...i think the band should switch to wearing kilts and bear skins, playing bag pipes and drums...that would be loud...and that would be bad ass.
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tekekini wrote:they shouldnt have to join a group of any kind period. if they choose not too thats their own problems but they can't be forced to do anything..this is the U.S. not the Taliban
No one is forcing them to join. It's on option they have. Incentives drive people to do things, that's basically all it is. I love how people reject change in today's society. In the long run, this is going to benefit everyone. For now, it looks like it's just going to cause problems.

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MACMAN wrote:No offense to the band... or any band...but ya know what...i think the band should switch to wearing kilts and bear skins, playing bag pipes and drums...that would be loud...and that would be bad ass.
We'll get right on that.
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Metz wrote:Funny that one of the starters of the Animals had part in this new group. Matt, how about for once in your life you be happy that they are trying new ways of getting students to the games. Obviously putting up signs and saying there is a game doesn't work. I don't care how they get student fans to games, just get them there. My membership form is filled out and will be turned in tomorrow.
The bigger issue is and will always remain getting people who are not students to games. Students are a finite group. Non students are infinite.

That said, a good student turnout Saturday is important. It will set the tone for the rest of the season, make the experience better for everyone, and hopefully start freshmen on a habit they won't lose.
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Schadenfreude wrote:The bigger issue is and will always remain getting people who are not students to games. Students are a finite group. Non students are infinite.
True, but out of the 18k-20k we have here, it would be nice to see more than 500-2000 at every game.

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