New conference USA

04forheisman · Post by **04forheisman** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:47 pm

Just an idea

East

BG
Toledo
Miami
Ohio
Marshall
Memphis
East Carolina
Akron

West

Rice
SMU
Houston
Tulane
Tulsa
UTEP
Southern Miss
UAB

Get rid of UCF

MAC

Kent
Buffalo
Temple
W Mich
E Mich
C Mich
N Illinois
UCF
W Kentucky

michhiker28 · Post by **michhiker28** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:52 pm

Drop RICE or UAB in the west and pick up NIU would be my vote.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:56 pm

michhiker28 wrote:Drop RICE or UAB in the west and pick up NIU would be my vote.

Not having to pay for the cross country team to bus to UTEP (as stated soooo many other times here) is my vote... Of course, I'd rather pay for them to get there myself than have to be in a conference with Marshall again.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:58 pm

Midwest Div: NIU, UT, BG, Miami, Marshall, Ohio
Southeast: UCF, ECU, Southern Miss, UAB, Tulane, Memphis
Southwest: Houston, Rice, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, North TX

04forheisman · Post by **04forheisman** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:02 pm

Warthog wrote:Midwest Div: NIU, UT, BG, Miami, Marshall, Ohio
Southeast: UCF, ECU, Southern Miss, UAB, Tulane, Memphis
Southwest: Houston, Rice, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, North TX

I like that line-up.

The MAC has too many chumps in it, I would like to see us play a higher level of competition. (the 3 michigans, ball st, kent, buffaslo)

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:11 pm

04forheisman wrote: The MAC has too many chumps in it, I would like to see us play a higher level of competition. (the 3 michigans, ball st, kent, buffaslo)

Just keep in mind that 4 years ago we would have been on your chump list and WMU used to one of the best in the MAC. Things change, don't worry about jumping the MAC ship.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:12 pm

UK Peregrine wrote:
04forheisman wrote: The MAC has too many chumps in it, I would like to see us play a higher level of competition. (the 3 michigans, ball st, kent, buffaslo)
Just keep in mind that 4 years ago we would have been on your chump list and WMU used to one of the best in the MAC. Things change, don't worry about jumping the MAC ship.

What he said.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:19 pm

UK Peregrine wrote:
04forheisman wrote: The MAC has too many chumps in it, I would like to see us play a higher level of competition. (the 3 michigans, ball st, kent, buffaslo)
Just keep in mind that 4 years ago we would have been on your chump list and WMU used to one of the best in the MAC. Things change, don't worry about jumping the MAC ship.

Ditto, UKP! The best hope for BG is a stronger MAC, not some Frankenstein realignment.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:22 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:Ditto, UKP! The best hope for BG is a stronger MAC, not some Frankenstein realignment.

Of course, that's pronounced "FRAHNK-uhn-schteen"...

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:26 pm

TG1996 wrote:
orangeandbrown wrote:Ditto, UKP! The best hope for BG is a stronger MAC, not some Frankenstein realignment.
Of course, that's pronounced "FRAHNK-uhn-schteen"...

And of course our commisioner would be Eye-Gor

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:41 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:
UK Peregrine wrote:
04forheisman wrote: The MAC has too many chumps in it, I would like to see us play a higher level of competition. (the 3 michigans, ball st, kent, buffaslo)
Just keep in mind that 4 years ago we would have been on your chump list and WMU used to one of the best in the MAC. Things change, don't worry about jumping the MAC ship.
Ditto, UKP! The best hope for BG is a stronger MAC, not some Frankenstein realignment.

To clarify, I was just posting that for fun, since this thread was listing possible C-USA alignments. I am not advocating nor am I opposed to a move to C-USA. Just throwing out an idea that, if this were the alignment, then I think a move could be warranted.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:46 pm

UK Peregrine wrote:
04forheisman wrote: The MAC has too many chumps in it, I would like to see us play a higher level of competition. (the 3 michigans, ball st, kent, buffaslo)
Just keep in mind that 4 years ago we would have been on your chump list and WMU used to one of the best in the MAC. Things change, don't worry about jumping the MAC ship.

I stated in another thread that the best thing for Bowling Green is to be in a league with Miami and Toledo. I'd like to see us try to stick together along with -- at a minimum -- Ohio and Northern Illinois as the future comes at us.

I didn't mention Western Michigan, but perhaps I should have.

WMU has good athletic facilities, they are good academic company for us (a bit bigger, a little bit more heft when it coms to handing out doctorates and research), and they've been in the MAC since the late 1940s.

They don't belong on a chump list, just as Bowling Green didn't in 2000 when things looked awfully dim for us from a football perspective.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:51 pm

I like it for football only.

The incremental travel costs would be minimal for the MAC teams joining, since you'd have 7 games within your division and then just 1 or 2 against teams from the other division.

This would gather all the best football mid-majors together (except for the MWC, Boise, and Fresno) in one conference. The champion of such a conference would prove a formidable foe to the rest of the country in a big bowl game.

I'd just replace East Carolina with NIU in the east division.

04forheisman · Post by **04forheisman** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:26 pm

San Diego Falcon wrote:I like it for football only.

The incremental travel costs would be minimal for the MAC teams joining, since you'd have 7 games within your division and then just 1 or 2 against teams from the other division.

This would gather all the best football mid-majors together (except for the MWC, Boise, and Fresno) in one conference. The champion of such a conference would prove a formidable foe to the rest of the country in a big bowl game.

I'd just replace East Carolina with NIU in the east division.

For Football with such a good conference maybe they could get a "BCS Tie-in"

sbrown · Post by **sbrown** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:12 pm

Interesting to think about....I agree with getting rid of the of the schools like Buffalo that are not commited to successful athletic programs. As much as I dislike CFU though, the other coaches in the league would love the exposure that having a team in FL brings. I'll bet that is why C_USA brought CFU into the fold in the first place - to help recruit FL high school players. If that program was somewhere in Indiana, nobody would give a rat's ass about them. I think that BG has shown a commitment to big time football. The same can be said of CMU and Marshall - those programs are just in a temporary slump.