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I don't know....maybe if we were given some kind of idea what we're gaining from blowing off two home games with Boise State...I have a pretty good idea where the stick went, what sort of carrot was attached to it?
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Falcon52 wrote:Dear UK & TGY - I didn't realize this was a competition, and certainly wasn't trying to win anything. My comments revolve around UK's passive acceptance that our home game schedule has always sucked so no big deal accept it, oh and by the way he blames us for wanting to improve things and have a better schedule. ???? He actually said he liked the schedule do to all of the away games and telveised ESPN games. My point is, for those who buy season tickets and go to all the home games, it is very important to us to see excitiing new, good competition. The fact is my patience along with many others is running out. In my case it just did. This is why 80% of all Bg grads don't support BG and could care less. They woudld rather cheer for Michigan, OSU and God know who else. How do we capture our alumni's attention when the die hards like us on this board are fed-up.

The only thing I lost was my ticket donation last year. I have learned my lesson.
No offense, but you made it the competition by trying to qualify who should be allowed to voice concern over the schedule, otherwise you wouldn't have told me how far and often you drive to games.

Secondly, :wink: this shouldn't always be needed to signify a hint of sarcasm, maybe some re-reading might help you to understand. I completely agree that we need new exciting competition, But honestly we know that 4 games are going to be MAC games, and when Temple, EMU, and the likes are in the MAC some of those games aren't always going to be exciting.
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You know what I think it funniest about this. If you could take a "What is the worst case scenario for you" survey, if we are still playing BC, Michigan State and Minnesota, from all of the fans here....This would have been it. Every issue that occured

1-5 home games
2-Horrible Home games
3-Horrible timing for the Toledo game
4-Allowing the MAC to run our schedule
5-Not holding teams like Boise State to their contracts

Every single one of these issues was spelled out here. Every one. I applaud you all for realism that I hoped was pessimism about the direction of this athletic program. I would not be completely against going to Div II for football and paying a quality basketball coach to take us to another level. I would love to root for a really good team. I am losing my hope that BG for many reasons (mainly its location (drawing quality players and coaches and attendance) will ever be competitive again like the 60's. I love to root for the underdog. Most of us do. But I want to root for an underdog that has a chance of winning. But, like all fans, this is just my negativity following their team letting them down thoroughly. I will always be tied to BG because of my time there. During that time I could not drag my roommates to games. They viewed the games as ones that "Just did not matter." With every loss and every bad decision we lose more and more fans.

As far as positives, Trips to BC, Minnesota and Michigan State would be fun. With a competitive team and quality coach we might actually beat those teams.
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Aside from letters and emails, there should be more we can do as fans to make our voices heard to the decison makers in the administration.

I think some type of "fan advisory board" should be formed to conduct regular meeting with Christopher to express the sentiments of average, ordinary BGSU sports fans. If he was aware of the type of animosity that losing the Boise home game would create, I doubt he would have agreed to such a move and cave in to Chryst and the conference.

Attending or not attending games is a personal call that fans have to make based on their situation, but staying home to "send a message" seems like a punitive measure against the players and overall program. Money does indeed talk, but I'm loathe to destroy the football program in order to send that message to a single person.

There has to be a way to convey our thoughts in a formalized setting so that this fiasco doesn't happen again.
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JoeFalcon wrote:Aside from letters and emails, there should be more we can do as fans to make our voices heard to the decison makers in the administration.

I think some type of "fan advisory board" should be formed to conduct regular meeting with Christopher to express the sentiments of average, ordinary BGSU sports fans. If he was aware of the type of animosity that losing the Boise home game would create, I doubt he would have agreed to such a move and cave in to Chryst and the conference.

Attending or not attending games is a personal call that fans have to make based on their situation, but staying home to "send a message" seems like a punitive measure against the players and overall program. Money does indeed talk, but I'm loathe to destroy the football program in order to send that message to a single person.

There has to be a way to convey our thoughts in a formalized setting so that this fiasco doesn't happen again.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
I heard of this newfangled website on the interweb. Ay ziggy something.
I'm talking about face to face, sit-down meetings held on a regular basis. If Greg Christopher doesn't log on to the site and read the posts, he has no way of knowing.

I can think of several AZZ'ers I'd like to see on the Fan Advisory Board, though.
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JoeFalcon wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
I heard of this newfangled website on the interweb. Ay ziggy something.
I'm talking about face to face, sit-down meetings held on a regular basis. AZZ does no good if Greg Christopher doesn't log on to the site and read the posts.

I can think of several AZZ'ers I'd like to see on the Fan Advisory Board, though.
Yeah, I know -- I was just being an ass. I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's plausible. Besides, a competent AD would know of this site's presence, and would browse it often to get the general tenet of the fan base. It's a great tool for an administrator to get the pulse of his customers and potential donors.

If Christopher would have done that, he would have known how the majority of us felt about certain things such as the boise game.
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Do you suspect that he didn't know that fans would love to see Boise here and be blah on Western Kentucky. He doesn't need an advisory board for that.
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If he wouldn't anticipate that we'd be upset by that switch, the only advisory board he needs is a 2x4 accross the forehead :-)
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orangeandbrown wrote:Do you suspect that he didn't know that fans would love to see Boise here and be blah on Western Kentucky. He doesn't need an advisory board for that.
Yes. He's not suicidal. He probably though there'd be some blowback, but not with the intensity we've seen on a 9 page thread. 9 page threads are reserved for Amstutz farks, MAC officiating blunders and little else.

I would hope he reads AZZ.com, but a formalized group would leave nothing to chance.
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orangeandbrown wrote:Do you suspect that he didn't know that fans would love to see Boise here and be blah on Western Kentucky. He doesn't need an advisory board for that.
Ok, I guess it's time for me to chime in with all the negativity flying around this thread....Some of you may recall that over 5-6 WEEKS ago or so, I posted that I'd talk to someone in the Ath.Dept. (name not revealed then) and that the Boise game was OFF our schedule...reason given at that time was that ESPN had entered the picture and had offered Boise a sweeter deal for a TV game etc. That person, I can now reveal, was G.C. He also said we would only have a five game home schedule, partially again due to some MAC scheduling problems i.e. some schools "overscheduling" for '07.

So, #1- I wasn't surprised to see that Boise wasn't there.... disappointed, yes...but surprised? NO!
#2 - Like at least one other poster on this thread, I'm willing to give GC another year on the job before I go screaming into the night. Is this a good schedule? Not in the way that we would prefer i.e. "name opponents" etc..... Is there a remote possiblility that this could be a "trial period" for WKU to eventually enter the MAC, thus evening out the divisions?

I don't think ANY of you, besides Dave Hamilton and me, can remember that we played TEMPLE back in the 60's as they were being considered as a possible MAC member..... We beat them, something like 60-7 as I recall, and that little experiment went down the tubes. Now they're back, albeit for football only. (which I personally think is wrong)...if you're going to be in a conference, join it for ALL sports...Temple is NOT Notre Dame, that can name its own terms. So, until we even out the divisions, these kind of things are going to happen...Either that, or go the route of the Big 11, and eliminate the divisional play. How this would affect our bowl tie ins I couldn't say, but it IS another possible answer....you don't play ALL the teams...except that BG -UT, OU-Miami, Akron-KSU and the directional Michigans play each other etc.
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Class of 61 wrote:...reason given at that time was that ESPN had entered the picture and had offered Boise a sweeter deal for a TV game etc.
In that case, why is the Boise paper hammering on us for "backing out of a game two years in a row"?? I'd love to see THAT cleared up before we get a reputation that we don't deserve of being one to break contracts.

AND if ESPN is yanking our schedule around to put mid-major darling of the year Boise State on more often, should we not demand compensation from them? Something more than an extra game on ESPNU?
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Den,

Just like that phone call I received from the athletic dept wanting to know if I was planning on going to the MAC Tourney. I can't remember the guy's name that called me but he DID verify we would only have 5 home games in 2007. Looks like he wasn't blowing smoke.
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Class of 61 wrote: Ok, I guess it's time for me to chime in with all the negativity flying around this thread....Some of you may recall that over 5-6 WEEKS ago or so, I posted that I'd talk to someone in the Ath.Dept. (name not revealed then) and that the Boise game was OFF our schedule...reason given at that time was that ESPN had entered the picture and had offered Boise a sweeter deal for a TV game etc. That person, I can now reveal, was G.C. He also said we would only have a five game home schedule, partially again due to some MAC scheduling problems i.e. some schools "overscheduling" for '07.

So, #1- I wasn't surprised to see that Boise wasn't there.... disappointed, yes...but surprised? NO!
#2 - Like at least one other poster on this thread, I'm willing to give GC another year on the job before I go screaming into the night. Is this a good schedule? Not in the way that we would prefer i.e. "name opponents" etc..... Is there a remote possiblility that this could be a "trial period" for WKU to eventually enter the MAC, thus evening out the divisions?
'61, Not arguing with you that this is what G.Chris told you, but this is what is in an article in Boise today. It makes it seem like BG pulled out of this one. I would like to know which story is right. Is it one or the other or a bit of both.
Idahostatesman wrote:Bowling Green pulled out of a home game with Boise State for the second year in a row. Last year, the Falcons were helping the MAC fix a scheduling problem. This year, they preferred to start a multi-year agreement with Division I-A newcomer Western Kentucky, a regional foe from Bowling Green, Ky.

The Falcons, who call Bowling Green, Ohio, home, also have a loaded road schedule with games at Minnesota, Michigan State and Boston College.

"This move for us best fits what we're trying to get out of our schedule, not only for next year but for the future," said J.D. Campbell, the assistant athletic director for communication at Bowling Green.
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