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Flipper wrote:I had a rather long talk with Brandon once..IIRC, Robinson had a 1.0 or lower GPA in his time here. I'm too lazy to look...anybody take Monty Cooley or TJ Carswell yet? Two of my favorites along with Chad Long...
Those guys are still all on the board.

I gave serious consideration to Long, but it's been so long I wasn't sure if my memories of his play were accurate or not anymore (especially considering I was so rarely sober at a game during that era).

Plus I like the fact that Sanderson can play CB/S versus a guy that is solely a safety.
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I am pretty sure chad Long graduated before 2000...thats why I did not take him,


and I am wrong

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Rounding out hte most dominant team ever

OL-Dennis Wendell 13(52)
OL-Shane Steffy 14(53)

So my squad is set. I have a very nice run pass combo here with a nice WR combo, bruiser back and great QB. My OL has the best OL from the last 11 years on it as well as a solid LT.

You won't be able to run on my D but they may lack flexibility in the passing game.

In hindsight I would have taken Partridge later after realizing that WRs are so deep that comparable guys wont even get taken. I also would not have taken Durkin but would have taken another DB like Caswell. But I would have considered taking boo boo gates because I think he is going to be a stud and very versatile.

If I could start the draft over after my top 6 picks I would. I think that I had the best team at that point but my strategy fell apart there.

Steal of my draft is Joe Alls in round 11. He is the second best back on a team who has not had many good ones.

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QB-Omar Jacobs 1(4)
WR-Steve Sanders 6(21)
WR-Cory Partridge 7(28)
RB-Joe Alls 11(44)
C-Kory Lichtensteiger 2(5)
OL-Dennis Wendell 13(52)
OL-Shane Steffy 14(53)

DL-Brandon Hicks 3(12)
DL-Chris Jones 8(29)
DL-DJ Durkin 9(36)
LB-Dwayne Woods 5(20)
LB-Terrell White 10(37)
DB-Mike Malone 12(45)
DB-Jansenn Patton 4(13)
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I was going to take Shane Steffy. Now I get to take my next choice:

Dominic Flewellyn

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QB-Anthony Turner 3(11)
WR-Kamar Jordan 11(43)
WR-James Hawkins 8(30)
TE-Craig Jarrett 7(27)
C-Scott Mruczkowski 2(6)
OL-Drew Nystrom 13(51)
OL-Dominic Flewellyn 14(54)
DL-Dyrall Briggs 1(3)
DL-Sean D'Obrianiak 5(19)
DL-Mike Thaler 12(46)
LB-Mitch Hewitt 6(22)
DB-Roger Williams 10(38)
DB-Antonio Smith 9(35)
DB-Keon Newsome 4(14)

Some people will say I was crazy with how I drafted. I might actually agree with them. AT at quarterback??? The idea is that he's decent at passing, and is a great running threat, so I got to skip the running backs and go with receiving threats. James Hawkins catches everything, and Craig Jarrett had a way of getting open when necessary. Kamar Jordan is one of those current players that has shown a ton of promise. Then, why not put two current NFL players on my team in Mruczkowski and Briggs. My Defensive line, I believe, is unstopable, and Briggs has the versatility to play LB if need be. As for DBs, I think they're solid. If memory serves, all three were very effective.

If I had to name a steal, it would be Kamar Jordan or Mike Thaler, although Thaler probably wouldn't have been drafted any earlier simply because he's a defensive lineman. However, those great rushing attacks don't mean much if there isn't a hole to be found. I went defense early in this draft, especially since everybody else seemed to go offense first. I think that allowed me to pick up a very solid defense.
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I'm interested to see who Hammb selects as his QB. This will be VERY interesting, especially given his prior comments about QBs.
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Well, the "has to have played a down" stipulation bites me in the ass again as I would probably have taken Nate Brown as my QB.

I am absolutely NOT a Tyler Sheehan fan and really got a kick in the nuts when 51 took Turner, as that's who I had pegged as my QB. I didn't think there was any chance he'd get taken that soon. Well played 51, well played.

I guess I have to take Tyler. I think Schilz has more physical talent, but he looked really bad at times last year...I'm not even convinced he's a starter here long term. When they were both on the squad I thought Glaud was a better player than Sheehan (and still think he got a raw deal in that "competition"), but he didn't really do that much in 1AA after transferring. Schneider, Beam, and Sahm were no better than Tyler either...

So give me Tyler Sheehan to round out my team. Ugh...I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...
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hammb wrote:
kdog27 wrote:
hammb wrote:WR -- Freddie Barnes

And in my humble opinion that gives me the 3 best skill players we've had in the past 10 years :)
I like the versatility Magner (Punt return, kick return, QB, RB out of the option, and my all time favorite of downing one in the end zone for a safety!) gave over Sharon or Barnes. ...And who is going to be throwing the ball to these three guys? :)
NOT Tyler Sheehan that I can assure you.

I would never employ him on a team of mine! Was never a big fan. I have some things going through my head right now, but we'll see how it develops. I thought seriously about Omar, but decided I couldn't pass on PJ Pope.
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My final team:

QB-Tyler Sheehan
RB-PJ Pope 1(2)
WR-Freddie Barnes 3(10)
WR-Charles Sharon 2(7)
OL-Rob Fehrman 11(42)
OL-Rob Warren 6(23)
OL-Ben Bojicic 9(34)
DL-DJ Young 10(39)
DL-Mitch Crossley 5(18)
LB-Erique Dozier 8(31)
LB-Jovon Burkes 4(15)
LB-Chris Haneline 7(26)
DB-Jarret Sanderson 12(45)
DB-Kenny Lewis 13(50)

Overall I love my team, but I think I'd change my draft strategy a bit if we had it to do over again. I had forgotten how many great skill players we've had here...even before the Brandon days. Guys like Joe Alls & Kurt Gerling dropped way further than I ever expected. Given that I could have gotten Alls in the 10th round I would have probably taken Omar with my first pick. I definitely think Alls was the #2 RB in this timeframe....surprised he dropped. The secondary picks really bit me too. Patton & Jordan especially as they were both the guys I was hoping would make it back to me at the time they were picked. Then by the time it got back to me other positions posed better value, in my mind.

Still, I really like this team, even though the QB spot is my least favorite QB of the era. My only saving grace is that the real Sheehan never had anything like I'm giving him to work with, so I think he'll be improved. I still think I'm the only team here that can actually protect their passer. All of us have at least one very good pass rusher, but I have the best 2 pass blockers, IMO. I also think if you asked me to name the best RBs & WRs in the past 15 years of BG football I got the #1 & #2 WR in my mind along with the #1 RB. I do think the dropoff from #2 WR to #6 WR isn't that much, though, so I probably would not have taken Barnes where I did...wish I had taken Turner or Patton in that slot now. Those picks really caught me off guard. Still, I think even Sheehan will put up points with this offense.

Defensively I have 3 very good LBs, and underrated pass rusher in Crossley, and a guy who was as physically talented as any DT we've ever had here. I do think my secondary is a weak spot. Lewis & Sanderson are capable, but are going to struggle against some of the WRs the rest of you guys have. I'm just glad they don't have to match up against Barnes & Sharon.
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hammb wrote:
hammb wrote:
kdog27 wrote:
hammb wrote:WR -- Freddie Barnes

And in my humble opinion that gives me the 3 best skill players we've had in the past 10 years :)
I like the versatility Magner (Punt return, kick return, QB, RB out of the option, and my all time favorite of downing one in the end zone for a safety!) gave over Sharon or Barnes. ...And who is going to be throwing the ball to these three guys? :)
NOT Tyler Sheehan that I can assure you.

I would never employ him on a team of mine! Was never a big fan. I have some things going through my head right now, but we'll see how it develops. I thought seriously about Omar, but decided I couldn't pass on PJ Pope.
Dammit...hate having to eat my words...
I honestly woud have taken Andy Sahm but that is just me.
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With the final pick of the draft I will take a current player:

Chip Robinson
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kdog27 wrote:
hammb wrote:
hammb wrote:
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hammb wrote:WR -- Freddie Barnes

And in my humble opinion that gives me the 3 best skill players we've had in the past 10 years :)
I like the versatility Magner (Punt return, kick return, QB, RB out of the option, and my all time favorite of downing one in the end zone for a safety!) gave over Sharon or Barnes. ...And who is going to be throwing the ball to these three guys? :)
NOT Tyler Sheehan that I can assure you.

I would never employ him on a team of mine! Was never a big fan. I have some things going through my head right now, but we'll see how it develops. I thought seriously about Omar, but decided I couldn't pass on PJ Pope.
Dammit...hate having to eat my words...
I honestly woud have taken Andy Sahm but that is just me.
I thought about it quite a bit, but I kept remembering how poor he looked trying to run the Urban/Brandon offense. He really struggled that year...he was much worse than a virtually no experience Harris. And that was with guys like Alls, Redd, Bautista, Gerling, and Magner around him. My only hope is that being able to protect Sheehan and giving him the best group of skill guys to get the ball to he'll limit the boneheaded mistakes and holding the ball forever that plagued the real version of him. He was also far more mobile than Sahm.

I REALLY expected Omar to go off the board first...that one hurt, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. In my mind Harris was the greatest college player at BG in the past 15 years, and I really don't think the #2 is even close. It was a great draft to hold the #1 pick.
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QB-Josh Harris 1(1)
WR-Cole Magner 3(8)
WR-Robert Redd 4(16)
RB-BJ Lane 9(33)
OL-Derrick Markay 8(32)
C-John Mazur 6(24)
OL-Chip Robinson (56)
DL-Devon Parks 5(17)
DL-Alex Glantzis 10(40)
LB-Teddy Piepkow 13(49)
LB-Khary Campbell 3(9)
DB-Terrell Mayberry 12(48)
DB-PJ Mahone 7(25)
DB-Jelani Jordan 11(41)


I like my team other than I am a little weak in the Offensive Line Position compared to others. They were are all solid 3-4 year starters but none of them jump out at you. In my opinion I have the best player and leader at quarterback. I still think Cole Magner had an overall better career than Charles Sharon or Freddie Barnes. He brought versatility like no other player here I can remember other than Anthony Turner. Look up what Cole did in big games sometime, I use to joke that he should have been second team all big ten in 2003. Robert Redd was a stud for four years and caught a ton of passes before the spread offense came to BG. BJ Lane played behind Pope for most of his career unfortunately. If he hadn't I think he would have put up numbers somewhat close to him. I am perfectly fine with Josh Harris and BJ Lane in the backfield and in my opinion 2 of the top 5 receivers we have had here.

Defensively I took Khary Campbell first because as far as I know he is the only defensive BGSU player to spend a significant amount of time in the NFL. Most probably don't remember but Alex Glantzis was a really good defensive lineman and Devon Parks made an impact immediately in his Freshman season. My defensive backfield is speedy and ball hawking. We're not going shut anyone out but then again who is? And I just always loved Teddy Piepkow. He can play on any team of mine.
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hammb wrote:
kdog27 wrote:
hammb wrote:
hammb wrote:
kdog27 wrote:
hammb wrote:WR -- Freddie Barnes

And in my humble opinion that gives me the 3 best skill players we've had in the past 10 years :)
I like the versatility Magner (Punt return, kick return, QB, RB out of the option, and my all time favorite of downing one in the end zone for a safety!) gave over Sharon or Barnes. ...And who is going to be throwing the ball to these three guys? :)
NOT Tyler Sheehan that I can assure you.

I would never employ him on a team of mine! Was never a big fan. I have some things going through my head right now, but we'll see how it develops. I thought seriously about Omar, but decided I couldn't pass on PJ Pope.
Dammit...hate having to eat my words...
I honestly woud have taken Andy Sahm but that is just me.
Don't you remember Sahm had that 63 yard run against Kansas?

Of course I think he fumbled but whatever. :)

I thought about it quite a bit, but I kept remembering how poor he looked trying to run the Urban/Brandon offense. He really struggled that year...he was much worse than a virtually no experience Harris. And that was with guys like Alls, Redd, Bautista, Gerling, and Magner around him. My only hope is that being able to protect Sheehan and giving him the best group of skill guys to get the ball to he'll limit the boneheaded mistakes and holding the ball forever that plagued the real version of him. He was also far more mobile than Sahm.

I REALLY expected Omar to go off the board first...that one hurt, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. In my mind Harris was the greatest college player at BG in the past 15 years, and I really don't think the #2 is even close. It was a great draft to hold the #1 pick.
Don't you remember Sahm had that 63 yard run against Kansas?

Of course I think he fumbled but whatever. :)
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kdog27 wrote:Kdog27
QB-Josh Harris 1(1)
WR-Cole Magner 3(8)
WR-Robert Redd 4(16)
RB-BJ Lane 9(33)
OL-Derrick Markay 8(32)
C-John Mazur 6(24)
OL-Chip Robinson (56)
DL-Devon Parks 5(17)
DL-Alex Glantzis 10(40)
LB-Teddy Piepkow 13(49)
LB-Khary Campbell 3(9)
DB-Terrell Mayberry 12(48)
DB-PJ Mahone 7(25)
DB-Jelani Jordan 11(41)


I like my team other than I am a little weak in the Offensive Line Position compared to others. They were are all solid 3-4 year starters but none of them jump out at you. In my opinion I have the best player and leader at quarterback. I still think Cole Magner had an overall better career than Charles Sharon or Freddie Barnes. He brought versatility like no other player here I can remember other than Anthony Turner. Look up what Cole did in big games sometime, I use to joke that he should have been second team all big ten in 2003. Robert Redd was a stud for four years and caught a ton of passes before the spread offense came to BG. BJ Lane played behind Pope for most of his career unfortunately. If he hadn't I think he would have put up numbers somewhat close to him. I am perfectly fine with Josh Harris and BJ Lane in the backfield and in my opinion 2 of the top 5 receivers we have had here.

Defensively I took Khary Campbell first because as far as I know he is the only defensive BGSU player to spend a significant amount of time in the NFL. Most probably don't remember but Alex Glantzis was a really good defensive lineman and Devon Parks made an impact immediately in his Freshman season. My defensive backfield is speedy and ball hawking. We're not going shut anyone out but then again who is? And I just always loved Teddy Piepkow. He can play on any team of mine.
If I could pick any of the 4 teams, I like your team best.

I obviously think Harris is the stud of this whole draft, 'nuff said.

I love Magner/Redd. I would have taken Barnes over Magner in that slot of the draft, but only because I think Barnes' career numbers would be better if not for injuries. Still, you got the guys that would be #3 & #4 in my list of top 5 WRs.

Not a fan of Lane, though. I think Alls was a much better player. Maybe even rather of Geter.

I like your OL guys, but you don't have a great pass blocker...still I like big Derrick & Mazur quite a bit.

Defensively, I like what you did as well. Glantzis is a guy I almost took a number of rounds, Parks was a good pass rusher (although I think Crossley was better). I definitely like what you have in the secondary as you took both Jordan & Mahone immediately before I was going to peg them. I'm with you on Piepkow, he was no superstar, but always very good.
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When I was thinking of Teddy Piepkow first i was thinking of that other guy who we never played at a position to have success but who I always liked Winovich I think.
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