an experience made me appreciate this BG football board

[Flipper]

He might have been searching for cialis or gay porn and the links in the free for all section landed him here

[OilerBuck]

If you came to have a rational discussion, you wouldn't have misrepresented yourself. Intelligent conversation is much harder to achieve without disclosure and an understanding of your audience.

You signed on under an OSU fan name, but stunk of opposing fan troll. The moment that you were discovered, you lost any hope of credibility and rational discussion.

For the sake of rational discussion...most Buckeye fans believe this years team is worse than last years. Fortunately for us, most other contenders are in the same boat. Last year's Buckeye team would be #1 this year. If you say Ohio State is overrated, you have to replace them with another elite school without any real legitimate questions or concerns. The coaches and media feel that, while OSU has holes to fill, we are in the best situation to mitigate that risk due to the talent we have stepping into the holes, and our history of reloading on defense.

I have personally asserted that we play close with Texas, Iowa, Penn State, Michigan State and Michigan, with two out of those five likely being losses. A lot of other OSU fans feel likewise, but are hoping that we can get the lucky bounces that a national title run always requires.

This post is obviously not completely buying into our hype machine this year, but would be met with rational discussion on the Buckeye board. Be forthright and learn to moderate your approach when entering enemy territory, or you'll have a group hate-fest on your hands.

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Tossing out the lable arrogant probably plays well here (as it would on HawkTalk, I might add) but where exactly did Oiler say something in error? Facts are just that. Now, you could try and explain why the facts are misleading, etc... but throwing your hands up and calling someone 'arrogant' for outlining his opinion smacks of defeatism. On the other hand, maybe it's just 'cause you're so close to Toledo.

OK...How did anyone on your board try to explain how my opnions were wrong? Are you really following people to boards now nad then accusing them of doing the exact things you do. And how did you get here anyway?

1. I think if you'll notice, here I said "fact" not opinion. It's your opinion A-Gone is a better WR than TG, not a fact. The FACT that you signed up to a buckeye board with a buckeye nick to rip on the same play you signed up as defies your assertion.

2. Try this for me... sign on to BP as yourself, a Bowling Green fan. Toss out your opinions in an honest manner, rather than "trying to be one of us" as it were, and see what a difference that makes. Will you be ribbed? Yes. It's not like you guys have taken to me like stink to your armpits. Such is the nature of college football boards.

3. I got here via the internet. Actually, I signed up on this site last year to enter in to a debate with another Ziggy user regarding BG and Toledo and how can the MAC compete. So, to answer your big headed question, no I don't follow people to boards and accuse them of doing anything... (a quick check of my sign-up date would have saved you some embarrassment, Mr. Ego)

4. You'd better come up with some new schtick, this one is played.

5. and one more thing... As a mod on BP I can tell you that trolling has been very high of late, and we probably are a little quicker with the trigger these days. You're analysis of BP is taken in a self serving vacuum. Chew on that, Mr. Scientist.

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

He might have been searching for cialis or gay porn and the links in the free for all section landed him here

Inadvertantly suggesting that AyZiggy is linked heavily on cialis and gay porn sites.. well done.

[Ineedbotox]

If you came to have a rational discussion, you wouldn't have misrepresented yourself. Intelligent conversation is much harder to achieve without disclosure and an understanding of your audience.

You signed on under an OSU fan name, but stunk of opposing fan troll. The moment that you were discovered, you lost any hope of credibility and rational discussion.

For the sake of rational discussion...most Buckeye fans believe this years team is worse than last years. Fortunately for us, most other contenders are in the same boat. Last year's Buckeye team would be #1 this year. If you say Ohio State is overrated, you have to replace them with another elite school without any real legitimate questions or concerns. The coaches and media feel that, while OSU has holes to fill, we are in the best situation to mitigate that risk due to the talent we have stepping into the holes, and our history of reloading on defense.

I have personally asserted that we play close with Texas, Iowa, Penn State, Michigan State and Michigan, with two out of those five likely being losses. A lot of other OSU fans feel likewise, but are hoping that we can get the lucky bounces that a national title run always requires.

This post is obviously not completely buying into our hype machine this year, but would be met with rational discussion on the Buckeye board. Be forthright and learn to moderate your approach when entering enemy territory, or you'll have a group hate-fest on your hands.

Just for funsies, would you mind telling us your background OilerBuck? For example, did you actually attend the main campus at tOSU and graduate with a real life degree?

I'm not trying to call you into question personally. Just a theory I have that many OSU "fans" just like the ones at Texas are not actually ones who went to school there at all, let alone for more than a semester or two. Tekekini being example #1.

Just curious

[Tricky_Falcon]

He might have been searching for cialis or gay porn and the links in the free for all section landed him here

Inadvertantly suggesting that AyZiggy is linked heavily on cialis and gay porn sites.. well done.

Obviously that one went over your head...

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Gosh... as a non everyday user of this site, who would have thought an inside joke would go over my head.

You can call me gay, limp or whatever you want, I don't really care. Like I said, I've been on the internet far too long to worry about such nonsense.

[Globetrotter]

If you came to have a rational discussion, you wouldn't have misrepresented yourself. Intelligent conversation is much harder to achieve without disclosure and an understanding of your audience.

You signed on under an OSU fan name, but stunk of opposing fan troll. The moment that you were discovered, you lost any hope of credibility and rational discussion.

For the sake of rational discussion...most Buckeye fans believe this years team is worse than last years. Fortunately for us, most other contenders are in the same boat. Last year's Buckeye team would be #1 this year. If you say Ohio State is overrated, you have to replace them with another elite school without any real legitimate questions or concerns. The coaches and media feel that, while OSU has holes to fill, we are in the best situation to mitigate that risk due to the talent we have stepping into the holes, and our history of reloading on defense.

I have personally asserted that we play close with Texas, Iowa, Penn State, Michigan State and Michigan, with two out of those five likely being losses. A lot of other OSU fans feel likewise, but are hoping that we can get the lucky bounces that a national title run always requires.

This post is obviously not completely buying into our hype machine this year, but would be met with rational discussion on the Buckeye board. Be forthright and learn to moderate your approach when entering enemy territory, or you'll have a group hate-fest on your hands.

Your right that I signed in under a false name. TedGinnTD. He rarely reaches the end zone.

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

As an aside, what difference does it make if Oiler did or did not go to OSU? Are people not allowed to make decisions in life unless they are personally attached to the thing they purport to endorse?

I have no affiliation with California, but I've always liked the Angels... so what?

[Tricky_Falcon]

Gosh... as a non everyday user of this site, who would have thought an inside joke would go over my head.

You can call me gay, limp or whatever you want, I don't really care. Like I said, I've been on the internet far too long to worry about such nonsense.

It's not really "an inside joke" all you have to do is read his post. For some reason osu fans that come here have trouble reading posts. Have a good day.

[Bleeding Orange]

Why is it that inevitably when having a discussion with BigTen/Eleven fans they always reinforce the stereotypes that we have about them?

And for those of you that have accused me of being too hard on people who are fans of both BGSU and OSU, read through this thread, focusing specifically on those posters with something regarding a nut in their username. I know a lot of you, and I know for a fact that you are better than that.

Additionally, if OSU fans can't recognize that no matter what our attendence is, or what the size of our stadiums are, we MAC schools play at the exact same NCAA level as they do, and that isn't going to change. The NCAA tried to change that in the early 1980's, and that hardly lasted a year. No matter what kind of threatening letters are sent by the NCAA, they don't have the backbone to reprimand anyone for any arbitrary reason because, as soon as they do, they will be exposed for exactly what they are, and you buckeyeskickbuttocks will realize just how much they have bastardized college athletics.

Furthermore, for those of you that want to say that OSU is so high above the MAC, CUSA, WAC, MWC, etc. because the latter lack in facilities, why not look at it this way. Rather than pool money into 60 schools and then turn around and accuse mid-majors of not "making a commitment to athletics," wouldn't it make more sense to spread that money out evenly amongst schools that are designated DIVISION 1A? If you boys down south want an outright NC so badly, why wouldn't you want everyone in your level of cometition to be competing on a level playing field? And don't even begin to give me any BS about the size of a school, either. Your own conference has a school that is considerably smaller than most MAC schools.

So, tell me, why do you insist on telling us that we are inferior and that our administration should make a more significant "commitment" to football if we want it to be popular in the state and the region? Don't you see that the system that has developed over the years is set up specifically so we can't achieve that goal? If you want to belittle our stadiums, fine. But, rather than simply tell us to close up shop if our schools are not willing to commit 40% of our annual budgets to get them up to your...ahem...standards, why don't you tell the NCAA and BCS to cut the rest of D1A in on the millions and millions and millions of dollars that your conferences bring in from the bowls? If our conferences got an equal share of the money that the NCAA brings in every year, I guarantee you that within 10 years we would have stadiums that would come closer to one of your "shrines," as one of you idiots so modestly put it.

But you know why I can't stand Ohio State and 90% of its fans? They would never even think about doing something like this because then their school might have...GASP!...competition[/i] in the State of Ohio from the MAC, just as SEC fans would never push for fiscal equity because they would have increased competition from CUSA in the south. How do I know this? Just look at what happened when some fan from a school that you consider to be inferior, and a conference that you consider to be inconsequential dared to make a desparaging remark about your beloved, and all powerful school! You would think that he went over to your message board and burned the f**king thing to the ground the way most of you morons have reacted.

So you know what, until you are ready to actually settle down for a couple of hours and thoughtfully contemplate the athletic world in which we live and the impact that your careless attitudes have upon it, don't come over here en masse and belittle and berate us for harboring some resentment for you and your ilk. Your fans, and those of every other school that look at a "mid-major" (what the f**k does that term even mean anyways?) and say: "Och, playing them isn't even like playing a football team!" are what is wrong with college football. Look at professional football, which you seemingly don't mind college football emulating.

Most professional athletic leagues have salary caps that level out the playing field and give every team in the league the opportunity to compete for a league title in any given year. Its the same with hockey (look at what Edmonton did last year) and the same with basketball (look at what the Cavs did last year). The only professional league that doesn't have effective salary caps is baseball, and what do you know? MLB has it's own "mid-majors" - Kansas City, Tampa Bay, etc. So, if you are going to totally dismiss academics and focus only on scoring points on Saturdays, effectively considering your school to be a professional franchise whose only focus should be winning, why shouldn't we take this lesson from them? They have realized that if not everyone is on an equal fiscal footing, it isn't going to be very exciting for fans in a lot of cities, so why can't you and for God's sake why can't the NCAA? None of this makes sense, but ya'll go ahead and turn on the spin machine.

So, looking at the collegiate football world from a "mid-major's" (I'll ask you again what the f**k that is supposed to mean), do you see why we use terms like "arrogant" and "ignorant" when you idiots show up here and start preaching to us? And remember, the term "ignorant" doesn't mean that you know nothing - it means that you don't know something specific to a given situation.

And with that (and I know you really don't care), this is exactly what hearing from you guys and trying to talk to you guys feels like:

[Globetrotter]

Tossing out the lable arrogant probably plays well here (as it would on HawkTalk, I might add) but where exactly did Oiler say something in error? Facts are just that. Now, you could try and explain why the facts are misleading, etc... but throwing your hands up and calling someone 'arrogant' for outlining his opinion smacks of defeatism. On the other hand, maybe it's just 'cause you're so close to Toledo.

OK...How did anyone on your board try to explain how my opnions were wrong? Are you really following people to boards now nad then accusing them of doing the exact things you do. And how did you get here anyway?

1. I think if you'll notice, here I said "fact" not opinion. It's your opinion A-Gone is a better WR than TG, not a fact. The FACT that you signed up to a buckeye board with a buckeye nick to rip on the same play you signed up as defies your assertion.

2. Try this for me... sign on to BP as yourself, a Bowling Green fan. Toss out your opinions in an honest manner, rather than "trying to be one of us" as it were, and see what a difference that makes. Will you be ribbed? Yes. It's not like you guys have taken to me like stink to your armpits. Such is the nature of college football boards.

3. I got here via the internet. Actually, I signed up on this site last year to enter in to a debate with another Ziggy user regarding BG and Toledo and how can the MAC compete. So, to answer your big headed question, no I don't follow people to boards and accuse them of doing anything... (a quick check of my sign-up date would have saved you some embarrassment, Mr. Ego)

4. You'd better come up with some new schtick, this one is played.

5. and one more thing... As a mod on BP I can tell you that trolling has been very high of late, and we probably are a little quicker with the trigger these days. You're analysis of BP is taken in a self serving vacuum. Chew on that, Mr. Scientist.

Paul I forgot all about you...stalker

[Jacobs4Heisman]

For some reason osu fans that come here have trouble reading posts.

Too easy -- I'm leaving it alone

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Your right that I signed in under a false name. TedGinnTD. He rarely reaches the end zone.

Seriously, are you really a moron, or are you just trying to keep the game going here?

A docudrama

I sign up with the nickname OmarTD and for each of my first 15 posts, toss out my hyperbole that Omar Jacobs shouldn't be the starting dishwasher at Burgerking let alone BG and see how well recieved I am.

[Warthog]

You are Bowling-freaking-Green, a MAC powerhouse and a below-average Big Ten team at best.

I really don't see how such an assertion can be made. IF BG or any MAC team joined the Big Ten, their entire revenue structure would dramatically change. Just by being a member, you would instantly have more money and more exposure. Money becomes available for facilities. You can recruit a higher level of athlete. Coaches salaries, hence retention increase. Everything about the program gets better.

Let's say, for instance, starting next year since the MAC will have 13 teams and the Big Ten will continue to have 11, that the two conferences come to some accord whereby the MAC will rotate one team each season to be the twelve member of the Big Ten. (Thus allowing each league to have 12 teams, two six team divisions, champioship game) Thereby playing a Big Ten schedule but not experiencing any of the on-going benefits. Then, yes, said MAC team would struggle every year to win more then two or three league games. But if any MAC team was admitted to the Big Ten on a full time basis, said team would struggle for a few years, but eventually become just as competitive as MI St, Minny, Purdue, etc. Probably not a national power, but competitive.