Toledo gets Purdue to come to UT again

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:53 pm

Screw the kids. Schedule Notre Dame, charge $50 a seat and limit the student seating to whatever's left over after 25,000 tix. That's a 1.25 million dollar gate. Even if we gave the Irish a half a mil we'd still make a comparative killing

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:35 pm

I concur with Flip. and O&B. How much do we pay when we travel? Even NIU was $17 for a seat. We could tack on $10 easy and its still the cheapest seat around. If a Big 11 school comes to teh Doyt you'd better believe it will sellout, even if GA is $25 a pop. Even charging students it will sellout and thensome. ANy Big 11 team within a 6 hour drive is a 100% guaranteed sellout. Not to mention if you get a popular big name team liek ND or a Florida St. etc etc, you are going to sell out allmost regardless of price. Its totally worth it to schedule a big name. And do it soon while we are on top of our game.

1) we have a better chance to win
2) they wont see it as much of a SOS killer
3) they think we suck regardless, so they will always want to "blow us out"

If toledo can do it, BG can do it too. The school are about identical and a half in theory, the difference being that we didnt upset Pitt in our house last year, making us look better to a big school to avoid an upset.

Get someone in here that isnt from a <insert river valley> conference and you'll see your revenue BG.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:45 pm

Maybe I missed it.

But nowhere in this thread have I seen the word "Wisconsin."

That's a bigger coup than Purdue -- and we don't even have to play two games at their place.

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:45 pm

we also dont even get 1 at our place

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:27 pm

BGSUfanatUT wrote: If a Big 11 school comes to teh Doyt you'd better believe it will sellout, even if GA is $25 a pop. Even charging students it will sellout and thensome. ANy Big 11 team within a 6 hour drive is a 100% guaranteed sellout. Not to mention if you get a popular big name team liek ND or a Florida St. etc etc, you are going to sell out allmost regardless of price.

While its obvious that getting big names in would be awesome for the program, and should be a semi-immediate goal, I don't know that it would be such an "automatic sellout", especially if you make students pay. Alot would come out, sure, but probably not in the numbers we see now. And while you might get SOME townies and Wood County folk in the seats just to see "big time" football (their definition, not mine!

), I still don't think it would sell out unless it was OSU, UM or ND. And THEN, the majority of fans would be for the visitors, I'd think.

The payday would be nice, but ALOT of the home field advantage would be taken away.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:30 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:Maybe I missed it.

But nowhere in this thread have I seen the word "Wisconsin."

That's a bigger coup than Purdue -- and we don't even have to play two games at their place.

Sorry, Schad. Its not. Its on a neutral field. We have to play in Cleveland, and Purdue's going to be in the Glass Bowl.

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:29 pm

TG1996 wrote:
BGSUfanatUT wrote: If a Big 11 school comes to teh Doyt you'd better believe it will sellout, even if GA is $25 a pop. Even charging students it will sellout and thensome. ANy Big 11 team within a 6 hour drive is a 100% guaranteed sellout. Not to mention if you get a popular big name team liek ND or a Florida St. etc etc, you are going to sell out allmost regardless of price.
While its obvious that getting big names in would be awesome for the program, and should be a semi-immediate goal, I don't know that it would be such an "automatic sellout", especially if you make students pay. Alot would come out, sure, but probably not in the numbers we see now. And while you might get SOME townies and Wood County folk in the seats just to see "big time" football (their definition, not mine! ), I still don't think it would sell out unless it was OSU, UM or ND. And THEN, the majority of fans would be for the visitors, I'd think.

The payday would be nice, but ALOT of the home field advantage would be taken away.

That is part of the sellout reason. big midwest school will sell all of their tickets, and even steal more of ours. BUT we will still sellout. The students will come as many as they have been. The typical suden caes more about who the opponent is than the fact that te Falcons ar playing. Sad, but its true. Makign the students play a reduced inlated rate (paying, but less than the jecked up ticket prices) so liek $15-$20 each. If its a Purdue, or an ND, or any Bigg 11 school pretty much, they will be there. Then there are the hardcore fans, they will come regardless. If we had that turnout for SEMO, SEMO people, c'mon, they will pack the Doyt for a BS school, err BcS...

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:48 pm

BGSUfanatUT wrote:seriously, why the hell can't we get schedules liek that?!?!? I just don't get it. It cant be that they think they can lose, ut has as much upset potential as we do, they beat Pitt LAST YEAR, its fresh in the air and teams wil schedule the glass bowl. what is up with the Doyt?

I think teams are scared to play us. Sure Toledo can suprise some teams, but their program hasn't been consistent IMO. BG has been on a rise the last few years and I don't see that changing anytime soon. They are scared of Omar, our awesome depth at Wideout, our depth at RB...everything! They are just flat out scurred of us! And yes, I typed scurred

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:21 pm

I know that students will come depending on who's playing, and that would boost attendance to an extent, but I don't know that the number of students that would PAY to see Purdue, Minnesota, or Iowa for example would match the number that would come to see some of our other opponents play for free.

I hope I'm just skeptical in this regard, but the only way to find out for sure is to get a Big 10 team in the Doyt!

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:33 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:Maybe I missed it.

But nowhere in this thread have I seen the word "Wisconsin."

That's a bigger coup than Purdue -- and we don't even have to play two games at their place.

Sorry Schad, if Wisconsin is a "home" game, then playing Northwestern last year was a "home" game too...

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:57 am

McMetz811 wrote:
BGSUfanatUT wrote:seriously, why the hell can't we get schedules liek that?!?!? I just don't get it. It cant be that they think they can lose, ut has as much upset potential as we do, they beat Pitt LAST YEAR, its fresh in the air and teams wil schedule the glass bowl. what is up with the Doyt?
I think teams are scared to play us. Sure Toledo can suprise some teams, but their program hasn't been consistent IMO. BG has been on a rise the last few years and I don't see that changing anytime soon. They are scared of Omar, our awesome depth at Wideout, our depth at RB...everything! They are just flat out scurred of us! And yes, I typed scurred

Yeah, but no one thinks we will be consistent each year. Everyone thought we would suck this year without Josh. I would assume that they would think we will suck next year without Keon, Cole, Scott.... they all cant be that big of...errr female reproductive organs... can they? maybe we should just start talking smack to everyone so they will jsut want to come beat us at home b/c they hate us, it will be easier to schedule that way.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:41 am

McMetz, UT has had 10 straight winning seasons...that is consistent.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:18 am

TG1996 wrote:
BGSUfanatUT wrote: If a Big 11 school comes to teh Doyt you'd better believe it will sellout, even if GA is $25 a pop. Even charging students it will sellout and thensome. ANy Big 11 team within a 6 hour drive is a 100% guaranteed sellout. Not to mention if you get a popular big name team liek ND or a Florida St. etc etc, you are going to sell out allmost regardless of price.
While its obvious that getting big names in would be awesome for the program, and should be a semi-immediate goal, I don't know that it would be such an "automatic sellout", especially if you make students pay. Alot would come out, sure, but probably not in the numbers we see now. And while you might get SOME townies and Wood County folk in the seats just to see "big time" football (their definition, not mine! ), I still don't think it would sell out unless it was OSU, UM or ND. And THEN, the majority of fans would be for the visitors, I'd think.

The payday would be nice, but ALOT of the home field advantage would be taken away.

No way students would come out in the same numbers they do now if they had to pay $15 to get into the game. Unless we're playing their childhood favorite team (UM, OSU, or ND) its not going to happen. If you sit in the student section you realize that a good portion of these students that show up are girls and some guys who are just there because its the cool place to go while drinking. It seems that many of them don't know football real well, and certainly don't know BG football real well. What they do know is that they party in the afternoon, go out to the game and have fun, then go out afterwards. If they charged admission to the students to get into the games, I'm not convinced that they would care enough to go to the game.

Clearly some of the students are die hards and would go, but there is now way that you'd draw the typical 7000-8000 students for a game where you're charging them.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:22 am

I think hosting Wisconsin at Cleveland Browns stadium will do more for our program than Toledo hosting Purdue (again).

I'll grant, it would be super cool to bring a Big Ten team into the Doyt. Eventually, it will probably happen.

But hosting a Big Ten team in Cleveland has its own advantages. It will make a real impression in Cleveland. We need to keep connecting with our alumni there -- in order to keep our games on the air there and persuade more of them to make the trip out to Wood County to see more of our home games.

If support for our program continues to improve, we will be at the point where we can do a two-for-one with the likes of Purdue in the Doyt.

I'm just not going to wring my hands over this. Good for Toledo.

Purdue may be better on the field. But Wisconsin is a stronger program -- the strongest program ever to leave home to play a MAC school.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:36 am

Excellent post SF...NE Ohio has a ton of BG grads and we need to bring them in!