End of the World?

[TG1996]

*Watching the Notre Dame game and saw MSU just scored. Also saw last week that the savior coach has the same record through 14 games that Tyrone had through 14 games. A lot of people must be pissed on that board.

They are, but mostly they think they're getting screwed by the officials. Not quite as bad as Penn State fans in that regard, but there was a ton of comments about how they would have won last week if the refs would have called holding. Silly Catholics.

[hammb]

I will gladly be the flag bearer for those that are bitching about this season. I had low expectations for this year. VERY low. I thought 7 or 8 wins was the absolute best case scenario.

I also said that wins & losses don't matter, because I said how young we were. I still feel we're a young team that will make mistakes.

However, we are not playing like a GOOD young team. I've seen a LOT of young teams over the years, and all of them make mistakes. Youthful mistakes are not our only problem. Far from it.

Youth doesn't make a team come out flat as a board and get walked on.
Youth doesn't make a team terrible tacklers.
Youth doesn't run goofy punt formations and force our talented punter to kick rugby style (which he is TERRIBLE at).
Youth doesn't call the plays.

You know what else we don't have that young teams oftentimes have? Young guys who are fired up to be playing college ball for the first time and making plays. Yeah, young talented teams make a ton of mistakes, but if there was so much blossoming talent on this team why do we never make a play? How come our supposedly talented secondary couldn't make a play on the wounded ducks KSU's QB was tossing around? How come nobody makes a catch. Nobody makes a special throw. Nobody makes a big tackle. Nobody makes a guy miss for a big run. We flat out don't make plays...youth doesn't prevent the occasional play from being made.

You know what is most important that Youth doesn't cause? It's something I've hated about Brandon since very early in his tenure? It's one of the biggest reasons why I think the guy will never be a good coach?

[YOUTH DOESN'T CALL NOTHING BUT RUNNING PLAYS DOWN BY 21 POINTS WITH OVER 12:00 LEFT IN THE GAME!!!!!


Real coaches don't give up on plays, quarters, or games.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Real coaches don't call QB draws on 4th and seven from the opponents' 25 on the first drive of the game either. You could see the wind go out of our sails and fill up Kent's right there. The game was over.

A QB draw on 4th and seven? For real?

[Warthog]

And on the first three third downs of the game, can anyone guess what formation we come out in? s**t, my 12 year old son picked it up. Do our coaches not think an intelligent defensive coach is gonna see these tendancies and eat them alive? That is exactly what happened today. Kent knew Freddie can't throw the ball and anytime he was in the backfield alone, just went after him.

(For those not paying attention, the aforementioned formation is Barnes the shotgun, three WR split out, TE, and Winovich doing a dance in the backfield as he goes in motion attempting to confuse the defense which is already salivating knowing it will be a QB dive because there is no one in the backfield and Barnes can't throw.)

[Jacobs4Heisman]

And on the first three third downs of the game, can anyone guess what formation we come out in? s**t, my 12 year old son picked it up. Do our coaches not think an intelligent defensive coach is gonna see these tendancies and eat them alive? That is exactly what happened today. Kent knew Freddie can't throw the ball and anytime he was in the backfield alone, just went after him.

(For those not paying attention, the aforementioned formation is Barnes the shotgun, three WR split out, TE, and Winovich doing a dance in the backfield as he goes in motion attempting to confuse the defense which is already salivating knowing it will be a QB dive because there is no one in the backfield and Barnes can't throw.)

But, but, but, it was working against Buffalo! It must be the players' fault.

[Warthog]

But, but, but, it was working against Buffalo! It must be the players' fault.

And you know what else worked against Buffalo? That option play to Winovich when we lined up in a shot gun and split backs. We ran it twice in a row for 20+ yards each time and I don't think we have even lined up in that formation since, much less used that play again.

Which brings to mind two more thoughts. First, how many times do we run the same play two times in a row? Makes me sick. Sure it works the first time. Make a note of that and use that play later when you need to convert. Using the same play again alerts the defense that you think you can run that play any time and be successful. So at a critical time in the game and you come out in the same formation again, the defense has already guessed what we will be running. We are far too predictable on offense.

Which brings me to my second point. Do we even have any trick plays in our offense? Man, Kent ran a reverse on the first play from scrimmage from their own 20. What are we afraid of, turning the ball over? We did that enough with our regular offense today. Why not try some trickery?

Oh wait, maybe that would be too predictable too. When Sheehan came in the game, we ran Barnes out there as a WR. I was sitting in about the 30th row up and I could hear the Kent DB screaming about a trick play. We are pathetic.

[hammb]

I was coming from work and didn't get to the game until right after Freddie's first pick. So I listened to the preceding moments on the radio.

It was quite humorous listening to Todd Walker predict our plays before the snap. He's say stuff like, "This is a formation we usually run the option out of...Option left"

I like the one time he tried to give Brandon a compliment about how he switched it up and ran the QB dive play to the opposite side of where Winovich went, and got some good yardage.

Boy that's being sneaky

[Warthog]

I like the one time he tried to give Brandon a compliment about how he switched it up and ran the QB dive play to the opposite side of where Winovich went, and got some good yardage.

Boy that's being sneaky

I think he did that on the fourth third down play and running it the other way the first three times. So if your counting at home, that was one formation that we ran the same play three times in the first 9 plays of the game.

[BGSUFootballFan]

And on the first three third downs of the game, can anyone guess what formation we come out in? s**t, my 12 year old son picked it up. Do our coaches not think an intelligent defensive coach is gonna see these tendancies and eat them alive? That is exactly what happened today. Kent knew Freddie can't throw the ball and anytime he was in the backfield alone, just went after him.

(For those not paying attention, the aforementioned formation is Barnes the shotgun, three WR split out, TE, and Winovich doing a dance in the backfield as he goes in motion attempting to confuse the defense which is already salivating knowing it will be a QB dive because there is no one in the backfield and Barnes can't throw.)

This is exactly what describes our team. If you had to use one play to describe BG football offense or defense, you would say the play where Winovich goes in motion and its a QB keeper.

Having a QB who is a threat as runner is possibly thee biggest weapon in college football right now. However, that does NOT come from designed running plays. It comes from mostly run/pass option plays where the QB rolls out and if the safties suck up you dump it over there heads, or if they stay back in coverage then you take off running. Virtually unstoppable over the course of a game. Secondly, it comes from a called pass play that is shutdown by the D. Its when you truly wanted to throw the football but the D drops 7 or 8 and covers everyone. The mobile/running type QB can make a play with his feet and get some HUGE yards on these plays as opposed to throwing it away or sliding for a 2 yard gain.

We do not use our mobile QB's in this manner. I have always wanted Turner at QB over Barnes and my point shown through today. The coaches call nothing but designed runs for Barnes, which is possibly thee easiest play to stop in football. We should either let Turner stay at QB, as long as we stay away from the designed runs, and give him more run/pass options or just use Sheenan the way we used Omar.

I will say this, from what I have watched with my own 2 eyes, absolutely NO ONE in high school knows how to cover anyone. VERY FEW people in college football know how to cover anyone, and only SOME in the NFL can cover anyone. Therefore using a steady intermediate passing game, with a QB who can run WHEN THE PLAY BREAKS DOWN, as opposed to design runs is probably the best offense for us to have. Basically the offense we had in '03, OR the offense we had in '04 WITH THE ADDITION of a Winovich type power running game to seal victories at the end of games.

But that is just my take on it... I am still so shocked about this outcome. This is my 1st post and I dont even know what to but in other ones. There isnt a team in the country that should be capable of beating us by 5 TD's at HOME, let alone Kent Suck, I mean State excuse me. I"m gonna go do some more moaping.. UGHHHH