Punting and kicking and fans

VernLovesCinnamonRolls · Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:28 am

Tranquilizers and a lot of sweet talk.

MIBGSUFan · Post by **MIBGSUFan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:42 am

I thought that the game was great yesterday. The Falcons really showed again that they can run with the big (10) dogs.

One small point though, can somebody stress the importance to put more than an Ole' wave on the outside rush man during the FG attempt? Thanks! (darn I don't like to be negative...)

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:17 am

Umm, looking at those pictures, did we only have 10 guys on the field? On the right side of the line is only a guard and then Scheidler at tackle and Ruiz on the wing. Left side has a guard, tackle, O'drob, and a wing. Count 'em. I only get 10. No wonder the kick was blocked from our right. And this was coming out of a timeout. That is completely unacceptable if I have this correct.

MIBGSUFan · Post by **MIBGSUFan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:47 am

I did not notice that. Good catch. Though there could be another Falcon to the left since the picture was cut off, but I doubt it since you can see the left protect man.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:54 am

MIBGSUFan wrote:I did not notice that. Good catch. Though there could be another Falcon to the left since the picture was cut off, but I doubt it since you can see the left protect man.

And we were kicking from the left hash, so it wouldn't make any sense to line up 5 guys on our left side. You would have put the extra guy on the right side, if anywhere, in this situation.

Great pictures by the way.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:57 am

hmmm...I'm going to have to go up and fire up the DVR and see how many we had on the field.

If true...not what you want to see at all. Sean should know if there was 10 since he should count them before they snap it, right? Not that he could have done anything about it since I don't think you can call two timeouts without at least one snap in between them....

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:19 am

ON the kicking- I liked the call to kick the FG. The point has been made about the yardage we would have given up by going for it and not getting the first, but I will also add at that point in the game, 7-0, the mental side of going for it and not getting it. I think that as fragile as our young team has been to go for it and not get it would have messed with the psyche of our O.

Overall I rate our game a C/C+ but I come away perhaps expecting some better execution but the team did not play below what I had hoped for on the whole.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:33 am

Flipper wrote:Sean should know if there was 10 since he should count them before they snap it, right?

Actually, it is the holder's job to count the players. So Corey should be the one to know. Check the tape and let us know what you see.

MIBGSUFan, do you have any pics of the extra point. Might want to compare those pics if you have them to these of the block and see if the formation is the same.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:36 am

I just had my twelve year old son sit down and look at the pic. Took him about 10 seconds of studying to say "We only have ten guys on the field".

Dr. Reality · Post by **Dr. Reality** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:15 am

The whole/total problem with the kick (FG attempt) yesterday was the time that it took to get the ball off the ground. Ellis looked like he was in slow motion --- as I saw it on TV anyway. I knew almost instinctively that it was going to be blocked after his first step toward the ball. He was just to measured/slow in getting his foot into it. Even a 100th of a second faster w ould have made a difference.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:26 am

Dr. Reality wrote:The whole/total problem with the kick (FG attempt) yesterday was the time that it took to get the ball off the ground. Ellis looked like he was in slow motion --- as I saw it on TV anyway. I knew almost instinctively that it was going to be blocked after his first step toward the ball. He was just to measured/slow in getting his foot into it. Even a 100th of a second faster w ould have made a difference.

Kicks from that distance require the kicker to approach the ball differently than he would from say 20 yards out.

Having the 11th guy out there probably would have been nice as well.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:58 am

I just watched the play a bunch of times...there were 11 guys on the field. 9 on the line the holder and the kicker. The block occured because the guy on the far end took a step to the inside to block the guy lined up inside of him and #4 just went around him.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:18 am

Hats off to the OSU special teams coach. They set that block up very well. The guy keeping containment (#38 ) wasn't lined up there initially. He was set to the middle and #4 was on the edge looking like he was going to keep containment. This lead our end blocker (ruiz) to think that his man was the guy inside of him. Just before the snap, #38 slide to the outside to keep containment and\#4 became the edge rusher leaving Ruiz to either take the man he was originally on and leave #4 untouched or slide out and leave Scheidler (#89) with two guys to block.

They really did a nice job of disguising where the inevitabe mismatch was coming from and executed the block perfectly. I don't think we made any mistakes per se, they just did a great job of moiving guys around at the right time and we didn't have a chance to react to it.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:55 am

Flip, where is the eleventh guy lined up at? Did we really have five guys left of the center and only three on the right?

FWIW, Ruiz did what he is supposed to do. On any kick situation, you block the inside guy first. The shortest route to the kicker is from the inside. When confronted with two guys to block, you have to let the outside guy go and hope the kick is off before he gets there.

FalconFanatic · Post by **FalconFanatic** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:40 pm

VernLovesCinnamonRolls wrote:6'6" 200 lbs..... hmmm, I'd rather not take a crack at that.

Edit: ALso, I'm glad to hear none of you have had any problems with our fans. I think our reputation is much worse than we really deserve... unless we happen to be playing Michigan that day. Really the only time somebody can get into trouble is when they start running their mouth, in that case look out for the bottles and bricks.

As I was walking to my car minding my own business after the game I had pumpkins and garbage thrown at me, by you’re so called best fans in the land. Otherwise my trip to the game was what I expected, BG lost and osu fans are pompous asses. Apparently being ranked number 1 gives you the right to do whatever you want. I'm done with osu and their fans low class actions. Finally where were all the BG fans at? I could only pick a few out among the sea of red, and most of the BG kids I saw were wearing osu attire.....what gives?