Going Bowling???

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:58 pm

bgbrandon wrote:Ive got a question and it may be really stupid but what if...We win out which includes beating toledo. and Toledo beats NIU leaving all of us with one loss... WHO goes to the MACC in that scenario?

Some people say they know. But the answers conflict. I thought I knew. But I can't keep it straight.

And, I'm telling you guys, a third bowl may pop up. At www.collegebcs.com, this Jerry Palm guy is picking FIVE MAC teams for bowls right now.

The reason: America has as many bowls as ever and it truly will be harder for teams to get six wins in an eleven game schedule. Bowls may grab for any team they can get.

Right now this is Palm's take:

-- Marshall vs. Texas Christian in the Ft. Worth Bowl
-- Syracuse vs. Northern Illinois in the Motor City Bowl
-- Miami vs. Pittsburgh in the Silicon Valley Bowl
-- Bowling Green vs. Boise State in the Humanitarian Bowl
-- Toledo vs. Navy in the San Francisco Bowl

His (apparent) logic:

-- There will be only one more school eligible for a bowl game than there is a bowl game in which to play. He figures the odd school out is Troy State.
-- The GMAC will exercise its option to take a WAC team over a MAC team and use it to take Louisiana Tech. That guarantees the MAC a place in either the Silicon Valley Bowl or the Humanitarian Bowl.
-- A lot of big conferences will fall short of their commitments to supply teams, including the ACC (Humanitarian), Big Ten (Motor - goes to Big East), Big XII (Houston, Ft. Worth), Mountain West (San Francisco), Pac 10 (Las Vegas, San Francisco, Silicon Valley)

Math isn't my strong suit, so I can't begin to even speculate on whether he's right about all these conferences coming up short. But I do know the season is half over and that the nonconference games have basically been played.

And, with all that in mind -- if he's saying five MAC teams will go to bowl games, it strikes as possible that at least one extra MAC team may be bowling this year.

If we win the rest of our games, that team would be us.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:21 am

If Palm is right, I'll go with 150 points and take the "over" in that Humanitarian Bowl, please.

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:37 am

TG1996 wrote:If Palm is right, I'll go with 150 points and take the "over" in that Humanitarian Bowl, please.

No kidding talk about better than 50/50 odds to break the all time NCAA combined team score record.

Lord_Byron · Post by **Lord_Byron** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:39 am

We're about as likely to go to a bowl as a baseball team coming back from a 3-0 deficit in a seven game series.

Wait a minute. . . . . .

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:01 am

Byron: Possibly the best two-line post ever!

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:03 am

I still say we should PRE-SELL tickets to an un-named bowl to show we have support that would put us on an even playing field with the Marshall thought of Herdnation traveling well.

Use leftover money as 05 season ticket down payments. . .

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:20 am

Somebody call Paul Krebs, Dayon's in for 5,000 mid-field tickets!

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:38 am

but what happens when we dont make a bowl? There will be some really PO'd pre-orderers

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:21 am

I'm up for a bowl game, two things concern me about pre-orders ...

1) I wouldn't want to take Noah out of school to go and I really can't see going without him, so the date is crucial.

2) Location is important. A trip to Detroit was do-able. A trip to Idaho for the Humanitarian Bowl? Wealthy I am not. Not sure I could pull it off.

As for the money going toward season tickets for next year ... obviously not a real option for me.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:22 am

1987alum wrote:2) Location is important. A trip to Detroit was do-able. A trip to Idaho for the Humanitarian Bowl? Wealthy I am not. Not sure I could pull it off.

I'd go anywhere but Hawaii. Nothing against Hawaii, of course -- but that's *serious* coin.

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:30 am

Schadenfreude wrote:I'd go anywhere but Hawaii. Nothing against Hawaii, of course -- but that's *serious* coin.

ditto

How much can a ticket really cost? Its Idaho, its not even the tourist capital of Idaho, let alone any kind of large geographical area. They will probably pay us to come ther eto spend money there.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:49 am

I assume the trip can be done inexpensively through a discount airline. For instance, I'd consider flying into Seattle and renting a car. That would be a great drive to Boise.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:04 pm

Schadenfreude:

I hear what you're saying. Here's how it looks for us ...

Flight to Mobile for GMAC Bowl: R/T = $381
Flight to Detroit for MCB: R/T = $272
Flight to Boise for MPC Computers Bowl: R/T = $447
Hawaii wouldn't be an option because that game is on Christmas Eve.

So Bould be a few hundred dollars more than Boise, not to mention the longer flight, etc., which is a factor when my traveling companion is 7.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:25 pm

BGSUfanatUT wrote:but what happens when we dont make a bowl? There will be some really PO'd pre-orderers

Like I said use the money as a downpayment for season tickets next year

or

as a credit with the athletic ticket office

or

donate the tickets to students who will make the trip (could be a tax write off)

Bowls listen to dollars and if we can front some dollars that would make a difference.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:05 pm

Another consideration is that even if it isn't likely that we are going to get to a bowl, we need to act like its our god-given right and expectation to be in a game.

What we want and need, is to have the world believe that there are many motivated BGSU fans craving a bowl game.

It might not yield a bid this year, but it will be remembered as the howls of protest from NIU's fans have been. Plus it helps bowl organizers in Toronto and Indiana in seeking sponsorship. You want these people thinking of BGSU first as they beat around marketing scenarios.

Finally, ideas have a funny way of festering into reality. Beat home the "logic" behind BGSU being in a bowl, and that perception becomes the reality.