ONE OHIO KID????

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:29 pm

Let's not jump the gun too soon. There's likely to be some players we have not heard about yet.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:32 pm

orangeandbrown wrote:Let's not jump the gun too soon. There's likely to be some players we have not heard about yet.

But not jumping the gun will totally screw Grant's planned site redesign, complete with banner that reads "Ay-Ziggy-Zoomba.com: Jumping the Gun Since 2002".

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:40 pm

I am firm in my belief that calm, deliberative thought is as misplaced on this site as a man on Rosie O'Donnelll

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:03 pm

Class of 61 wrote:Ball St. 12 6##

E.Mich 9 4##

This is what I was referring to when I said we seem to have "lost our presence" in state. EMU traditionally has gone after Ohio kids and it's a deal for them because of the Ohio=Mich. tuition deal they offer. But Ball St. with SIX?

Students in west-central Ohio have the opportunity to attend Ball State at the in-state rate (I think it's five or six counties along the border and also includes Miami County (Piqua/Sidney area). Ball State did knock off a few majors that students from Ohio are allowed to choose at the in-state rate (Architecture and Nursing to be two).

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:21 pm

How many do we have from Michigan? After all, Detroit is closer to BG than Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, and Cincinnati. (and yes, I know that MI HS FB doesn't have the reputation of Ohio,)

moneymaker02 · Post by **moneymaker02** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:23 pm

why are we talking about tuition costs when they dont have to pay for it anyway

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:46 pm

moneymaker02 wrote:why are we talking about tuition costs when they dont have to pay for it anyway

Because the Athletic department does. It would be cheaper to pay for students either in-state, or in reciprocal tuition areas than for out-of-state athletes.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:12 pm

I don't know if this is as big of an issue as it seems to some of you....didn't we have a record setting QB who passed a lot to another guy from Florida here recently? Wasn't the alternate target a guy from Alaska?

Truth is that Ohio has the most (actually I think we are tied with Texas) for having the most D1 programs....so competition is of course fierce and the alternate strategy might just be that, instead of playing the odds here in Ohio for the talent levels just south of theeeeOSU bound, that we start looking nationwide?

I don't care where they are from!! welcome to BG from wherever you are...now go beat Toledo, win the MAC east, and get me some Bowl reservations in 11 months.

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:22 pm

JohnnySwoop '85 wrote:I don't care where they are from!! welcome to BG from wherever you are...now go beat Toledo, win the MAC east, and get me some Bowl reservations in 11 months.

Very well said.

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:29 pm

JohnnySwoop '85 wrote:I don't know if this is as big of an issue as it seems to some of you....didn't we have a record setting QB who passed a lot to another guy from Florida here recently? Wasn't the alternate target a guy from Alaska?

Truth is that Ohio has the most (actually I think we are tied with Texas) for having the most D1 programs....so competition is of course fierce and the alternate strategy might just be that, instead of playing the odds here in Ohio for the talent levels just south of theeeeOSU bound, that we start looking nationwide?

I don't care where they are from!! welcome to BG from wherever you are...now go beat Toledo, win the MAC east, and get me some Bowl reservations in 11 months.

If they play well, and the team is winning, and the staff will be hear a long time, I have no issues.

The team isn't winning, was sliding towards this past season for some time, it doesn't play well, and the staff sucks.

Now the staff is recruiting more in states that they'll be looking for work in, which itself isn't a sin. But this is an Ohio program, and when, not if we have a new coaching staff, that group has to then rebuild the foundation of BGSU recruiting. You'll have a wounded program unable to even get local talent. That looks bad, it is bad, and it shouldn't be the case.

Ohio has many football programs, and most of Michigan's schools recruiting from it. But are we supposed to believe that BGSU fans should write-off getting Ohio talent, because Kent, Akron, Ohio, Youngstown, Cincy, and a few Mich. schools are also going after them? No. We should be at the top quarter of those schools, drawing kids easier than we do, and getting the results that clearly most of the rest of Ohio and Michigan have trumped us with on the field.

People reserved judgment of Greg Brandon, because they weren't sure he could really do what Urban did. In many ways, he can't. Now you wonder if he isn't taking what Urban is leaving for him in Florida.

Having solid Out Of State (OOS) recruiting is nice, but it is a fall-back position. It allows you to polish a recruiting class, nab some blue-chippers that are missed by other schools. But you can't count on it to stock a program all the time, and you can't flush your in-state recruiting in favor of it. We had years of good Florida recruiting with coach Ferraro among others, during the Blackney era. We couldn't sustain it, and eventually withdrew. Why are we going to sustain it now?

In any case, if the recruiting is so great, it isn't good enough to overcome the Coaching Gap. If the recruiting really isn't so good, than there is not enough coaching talent to overcome the Talent Gap. And if both are lacking, welcome to Suckville.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:41 pm

...and if they win every game on the schedule next year by 80 points, Gregg Brandon didn't wear the right color socks. Sheesh!

NWLB · Post by **NWLB** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:42 pm

Actually I'd make fun of his wearing sweat shirts and the visor so much. 8)

maquisard · Post by **maquisard** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:03 am

Thanks for doing your part to ensure your prophecy is correct. It is such a good time of the year to berate others and influence young kids making a major decision to give your opinion that EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS!

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:27 am

NWLB wrote:Actually I'd make fun of his wearing sweat shirts and the visor so much. 8)

His visor -- which I don't recall seeing lately -- hs never worked for me.

Occasionally, I muse as to whether it is worse than Lee Tressell's sweater vest.

Now, this:

That's fashion.

Wonder if he picked that up in Perrysburg.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:52 am

Of course, this is the ultimate fashion statement:

Check them out chillin at the pad in those far out threads. Sweetness. Can you dig it?

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