VanDelay's 2007 BG football recruiting report

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Globetrotter wrote:Warthog I agree with you, his actions deserved a T. And by that I mean Buffalos coaches. What right does he have to push the buzzer at the table.
You must have read my comments over at the MAC boards. :D

But I think you are exactly right and no one crossed it here to my knowledge. A coach can not press the buzzer. He absolutely cant do it. If we play Buffalo again. If I am Dakich I walk over and push the buzzer at some point in the game. If they T him up so be it. He proved his point. Do it maybe even the next game at home. Dakich is a great coach. He will land on his feet and BG is better for having him here. That entire thread overthere was ridiculous.
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Nick...it sounds like you're not grading our class based on who we signed, but on who we didn't sign in Ohio or PA.

That's not a methodology that engenders a lot of confidence in your rankings.

We didn't sign Belton, but we got Brown. We didn't sign Edmonds, but we got Ransom, Geter and Wooldridge. Didn't sign Tomaz Hilton to play LB, but we got three kids out of FL with some very good credentials and better than average tools. We lost Charles Brown to UNC... yeah...that one sucked. Didn't really get that speedy deep threat this time, but I think Ransom wil give us some help in the slot. We also had a DB decommit from Florida who wound up at Syracuse...he was replaced seemingly by the kid from Harmony prep.

So far as filling the class late...we had about 15-16 verbals supposedly by mid December in a class of 20. That's not a huge number of slots to fill.

I think you have displayed some curious rationales for downgrading our classes of late. Last year you downgraded us a bit for signing only one OL...we didn't need any in that class numbers wise. This year you aren't rating us on the players we signed, but on players we didn't sign.

You got it in for Brandon like you do Dakich?
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Can someone explain ANY good reason we would want to go down to press row and introduce ourselves to this guy? I really don't want to even be in the same building, but I guess I have NO choice!
He probably thinks our women's BB teams is overrated and plays an easy schedule too! :twisted: He does have a UT education!!!!!!
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Vandelay wrote:
As for Jacobs4Heisman stating that I am dishonest, that's just plain wrong. If I make a mistake on my site, and yes I certainly have, I change it right away once it is brought to my attention. I do not make money on my Nicks Picks so there is no reason to false advertise - it's a fan site for crying out loud. I work with many BG grads in downtown Cleveland and all of them turn to me for MAC insider knowledge. If you have a problem with me or my site - that's fine. If you happen to visit The Q next month for MAC Madness, look me up, I'm in the middle of press row and we can chat about the MAC.
Thats bullshit, and you know it. When everyone on this board, every single week during the season, can immediately see that you are fabricating your prediciton stats, you are fabricating your prediction stats. Period. It isn't as if this was a one-time thing. You're full of crap.

Don't get me wrong - I very much appreciate the dedication taht you have shown to this conference; however, if you are going to fabricate things and develop imaginary biases against basketball coaches from schools of your choice, I would rather you simply keep your thoughts to yourself. Face it, given the nature of the Internet, if you do what you have done you are considered an "expert" by the vast majority of people who just don't know any better. Don't give me this crap about your site being "just a fan site."

Take yourself seriously and I will take you seriously. Until you do, in my opinion, you are just another idiot with an axe to grind. You are far, far away from a legitimate, viable media source - which you have clearly fancied yourself.
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Vandelay wrote:
As for Jacobs4Heisman stating that I am dishonest, that's just plain wrong. If I make a mistake on my site, and yes I certainly have, I change it right away once it is brought to my attention. I do not make money on my Nicks Picks so there is no reason to false advertise - it's a fan site for crying out loud. I work with many BG grads in downtown Cleveland and all of them turn to me for MAC insider knowledge. If you have a problem with me or my site - that's fine. If you happen to visit The Q next month for MAC Madness, look me up, I'm in the middle of press row and we can chat about the MAC.
Thats bullshit, and you know it. When everyone on this board, every single week during the season, can immediately see that you are fabricating your prediciton stats, you are fabricating your prediction stats. Period. It isn't as if this was a one-time thing. You're full of crap.

Don't get me wrong - I very much appreciate the dedication taht you have shown to this conference; however, if you are going to fabricate things and develop imaginary biases against basketball coaches from schools of your choice, I would rather you simply keep your thoughts to yourself. Face it, given the nature of the Internet, if you do what you have done you are considered an "expert" by the vast majority of people who just don't know any better. Don't give me this crap about your site being "just a fan site."

Take yourself seriously and I will take you seriously. Until you do, in my opinion, you are just another idiot with an axe to grind. You are far, far away from a legitimate, viable media source - which you have clearly fancied yourself.
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Vandelay wrote:I figured I would take some hits from this forum so I will do what I can to address them here. First off, I loved your two RBs and QB that you signed and so noted that. When the entire recruiting analysis is up and running you will see in my position rankings that Nate Brown is the #4 incoming MAC QB and Mark Wooldridge is the #5 incoming MAC RB. Eric Ransom is the #6 incoming overall JUCO.

I was not as impressed with your WRs or OL prospects compared to other MAC schools and as you can see, I do go position by position for my in-depth analysis. All of the defensive players have some solid potential but none stuck out to me where as schools like Temple, Miami & Ball St did. You never know how these things will work out and every year I so note that, but on paper, I thought other schools did better this year.

When I spoke to two of my most solid insiders who write for Scout and Rivals respectively and are OSU grads, both stated the same story to me. BG again and again lost Ohio recruits to Miami and Ball State and western PA recruits to Akron and Kent St. Each stated the same thing, and each stated that BG needed to fill their class and did so late. That's not always a bad thing, but when I hear a school losing recruits left and right to other MAC schools, I tend to rank their class a little lower, right or wrong on that logic. If you look at my rankings over the past few years, most of the time BG was rated in the upper half if not upper quarter of my rankings. In the few years that Urban Meyer was there, the exact opposite happened. He took players away from other MAC schools, and schools like Cincy, Indiana and some other lower BCS schools. Urban is a great guy and I miss him in this league very much.

As for my rant about DD on the MACBDS, I am not a Dakich fan and haven't been for some time. While I like that he stresses defense and basic fundamentals, I don't like how he runs players out of his program and as a NCAA football official, I don't like how blames officials for many of his losses. Getting back to Urban Meyer, I remember well when BG was at Toledo and leading at the half and he opened up the second half with an onside kick and the Falcons did not get the fumble. UT went on to score on that drive and momentum was sharply shifted to blue. In the post game conference, Urban was as sincere as anyone I ever saw after a tough loss and said "I lost this game with that call." DD doesn't do that, he blames others, and then he runs to Matt Markey, Norm Wamer or Elton Alexander and cries foul. I don't like that at all and never have.

As for Jacobs4Heisman stating that I am dishonest, that's just plain wrong. If I make a mistake on my site, and yes I certainly have, I change it right away once it is brought to my attention. I do not make money on my Nicks Picks so there is no reason to false advertise - it's a fan site for crying out loud. I work with many BG grads in downtown Cleveland and all of them turn to me for MAC insider knowledge. If you have a problem with me or my site - that's fine. If you happen to visit The Q next month for MAC Madness, look me up, I'm in the middle of press row and we can chat about the MAC.

Everyone knows I am a Toledo grad and those who know me personally know that I have family that lives in BG and that my first ever college football game that I attended was BG/UT-Chattanooga back in 1975. Believe it or not I do root for you guys in OOC football and basketball games as I root for all MAC schools. Another problem I had with DD is that he would schedule a crappy and easy non-conference schedule just to pad his personal record. Jim Larranaga didn't do that - and he would go on the road to play anyone and that's why he was successful then and now.

Many of you can and will continue to rip me a new one if you like - but I thought I would respond. Again, anyone going to The Q next month, stop down and introduce yourself. I always wear an ivory sweater/vest with a tie and love talking MAC sports.

Nicky G.
They'll apparently let anybody onto press row. If anybody should have to buy a ticket, it is this dude.
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Everyone knows I am a Toledo grad
How does everyone know that you graduated when not everyone knows you? Get over yourself.
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San Diego Falcon wrote:
Everyone knows I am a Toledo grad
How does everyone know that you graduated when not everyone knows you? Get over yourself.
I knew he was a Toledo grad as soon as I found out he couldn't add. :-D
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Ok kids...we've all taken our shots at Nick and had our fun. I think it's time to close this one down.
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