It's the GMAC ~ Toledo Blade

[Zom]

...all of this damned pessimism has to stop at some point. It is exhausting.

It won't, Bleeding Orange. You see, we're doomed. Doomed, I tell you. We're going to a Bowl game, and we're all doomed.

[Schadenfreude]

A vast majority of them do. Granted, you will have students that will go to the game and try to argue their case as to why they had to miss classes, but as a teacher myself, I'm not going to sympathize with them too much. That's like the students that argue that they shouldn't get a zero on the quiz they missed because it was the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Um...you have class, I have to be there, so you have to be there, too.

It seems to me, if the game is the GMAC, that the university could relax this attendance policy.

Also, if I'm a student, and it's the GMAC, I'd e-mail each of my professors, just to let them know the situation.

There could be a few profs who resent athletics and won't budge. Most, I think, would be understanding. Most of mine would have, that's for sure.

[Dayons_Den]

If it turns out to be the GMAC bowl and an announcement of a one-time policy change is NOT made then I hope the student government leaders push or at least ask for the exemption for those traveling to the game.

[footballguy51]

If there is an exemption, I may be asking for somebody to cover my class on the first day so I can go, too...however I doubt I can get away with that.

[Dayons_Den]

If there is an exemption, I may be asking for somebody to cover my class on the first day so I can go, too...however I doubt I can get away with that.

Seems like a good use of the "Blackboard" email system thingy.

[FalconFanatic]

A vast majority of them do. Granted, you will have students that will go to the game and try to argue their case as to why they had to miss classes, but as a teacher myself, I'm not going to sympathize with them too much. That's like the students that argue that they shouldn't get a zero on the quiz they missed because it was the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. Um...you have class, I have to be there, so you have to be there, too.

I know that most of my upper level courses didn't have first day attendance policies, most of those are in the Gen Ed 100 level courses. At least that was my experience..... However why on earth would you give students a quiz on a day that you know they are the most apt to skip??

[transfer2BGSU]

However why on earth would you give students a quiz on a day that you know they are the most apt to skip??

Well, I used to have the quiz in my syllabus and we would discuss all items on the syllabus and I would remind them that the date was the Monday or Tuesday before Thanksgiving.

If the university schedules a class, then you are expected to attend. You as a student would have to decide if it was worth it to skip the class or not. In my case, the class I taught was Freshman Orientation and if you had perfect attendance, you did not have to take the final exam (after all,if you went to class every day, you obviously knew the material). If all you missed was the class before Thanksgiving, then you took the final exam because you did not have perfect attendance.

Hey! If the students want to be treated like adults, then I'm all for it. I had to work the Wednesday before Thanksgiving (and Falconboy had to work the Friday after).

[footballguy51]

The quiz is one of those items that was HIGHLY suggested by the coordinator of the math class that I'm teaching. We were told that we couldn't cancel on that day, and that we were supposed to do something meaningful that day, as well as do something graded as well. The quiz was easy! I gave them a point for their name, and all of the problems were very basic ones where you really couldn't get them wrong. It was an easy 10/10 just for showing up.

[bgsufalcon24]

However why on earth would you give students a quiz on a day that you know they are the most apt to skip??

Falconboy, that's exactly the point. You give quizzes on days in which students are likely to skip, thus making them come to class. And then if students still skip anyway, then you know which people don't really give a crap.

[jlozer8]

However why on earth would you give students a quiz on a day that you know they are the most apt to skip??

Spoken like a student who doesn't understand that teachers have to deal with that kind of attitude on a daily basis.

If you were a teacher, or even just a TA, you would understand this quite well. Of course, most students probably understand it, they just believe that they are exempt from this sort of thing. It's common sense. As a TA myself, I have a hard time understanding how students can be so ignorantly stupid in situations like this.

However, in regards to the GMAC bowl, I would think that the university would want its students to support their football team, so a university-wide exemption for 1st day attendance policies might occur. That or the university COULD just cancel classes that Monday and start on Tuesday instead to encourage students to support the team...

[bgsufalcon24]

However why on earth would you give students a quiz on a day that you know they are the most apt to skip??

Spoken like a student who doesn't understand that teachers have to deal with that kind of attitude on a daily basis.

If you were a teacher, or even just a TA, you would understand this quite well. Of course, most students probably understand it, they just believe that they are exempt from this sort of thing. It's common sense. As a TA myself, I have a hard time understanding how students can be so ignorantly stupid in situations like this.

However, in regards to the GMAC bowl, I would think that the university would want its students to support their football team, so a university-wide exemption for 1st day attendance policies might occur. That or the university COULD just cancel classes that Monday and start on Tuesday instead to encourage students to support the team...

I doubt the university will cancel class for a football game, as that would show us to be more about athletics than academics. I doubt Sidney Ribeau would go for that. But a relaxing of 1st day attend policies is probable if we are indeed in the GMAC Bowl.

[jlozer8]

However why on earth would you give students a quiz on a day that you know they are the most apt to skip??

Spoken like a student who doesn't understand that teachers have to deal with that kind of attitude on a daily basis.

If you were a teacher, or even just a TA, you would understand this quite well. Of course, most students probably understand it, they just believe that they are exempt from this sort of thing. It's common sense. As a TA myself, I have a hard time understanding how students can be so ignorantly stupid in situations like this.

However, in regards to the GMAC bowl, I would think that the university would want its students to support their football team, so a university-wide exemption for 1st day attendance policies might occur. That or the university COULD just cancel classes that Monday and start on Tuesday instead to encourage students to support the team...

I doubt the university will cancel class for a football game, as that would show us to be more about athletics than academics. I doubt Sidney Ribeau would go for that. But a relaxing of 1st day attend policies is probable if we are indeed in the GMAC Bowl.

I know that they wouldn't cancel classes, I was just throwing that out there as an idea. They would almost HAVE to relax the 1st day attendance policies though.

[falconfan1]

Perhaps this is posted elsewhere, but a major block to our trip to the GMAC vs UCF/ECU is the Mizzou-Oklahoma game. If Mizzou loses, OSU moves up and another Big Ten team is drawn into the BCS, it might well mean Purdue ends up in the Motor City Bowl. MCB and Purdue would avoid a CMU/Purdue rematch by possibly pairing BG vs Boilers. The teams have past ties of course.

A Mizzou win would seem to send us to the GMAC. This situation is the reason the MAC bowl announcement is tied to BCS announcement Sunday in addition to MAC title game.

Again, sorry if this has already been discussed.

Go Falcons!

[tiznow]

Perhaps this is posted elsewhere, but a major block to our trip to the GMAC vs UCF/ECU is the Mizzou-Oklahoma game. If Mizzou loses, OSU moves up and another Big Ten team is drawn into the BCS, it might well mean Purdue ends up in the Motor City Bowl. MCB and Purdue would avoid a CMU/Purdue rematch by possibly pairing BG vs Boilers. The teams have past ties of course.

A Mizzou win would seem to send us to the GMAC. This situation is the reason the MAC bowl announcement is tied to BCS announcement Sunday in addition to MAC title game.

Again, sorry if this has already been discussed.

Go Falcons!

Yes, past ties. BG owns Purdue. 2-0 lifetime series.

[jlozer8]

Perhaps this is posted elsewhere, but a major block to our trip to the GMAC vs UCF/ECU is the Mizzou-Oklahoma game. If Mizzou loses, OSU moves up and another Big Ten team is drawn into the BCS, it might well mean Purdue ends up in the Motor City Bowl. MCB and Purdue would avoid a CMU/Purdue rematch by possibly pairing BG vs Boilers. The teams have past ties of course.

A Mizzou win would seem to send us to the GMAC. This situation is the reason the MAC bowl announcement is tied to BCS announcement Sunday in addition to MAC title game.

Again, sorry if this has already been discussed.

Go Falcons!

By that same theory then, a West Virginia loss would cause the same problem. Not that there's a chance of that happening with Dave Wannstedt, a perennial loser, coaching against West Virginia tomorrow, but I just thought I'd throw that out there.

If a Mizzou win means BG will go to the GMAC bowl, then I think there is a solid chance that will happen though, and I'm not just saying that because I'm in graduate school at Mizzou. Mizzou could have beaten Oklahoma the last time they played, they just lost the game on turnovers, and they're a more efficient team now than they were then. Regardless of what happens tomorrow, it seems certain that the Falcons are going somewhere.