What is it with the state of Oklahoma?

[BGSUfalcons]

Why is it that teams from OK seem to think that they have to run up scores and break records? Last night I saw a Bob Stoops team, that I once had respect for, purposely run up the score against Missouri. They were in complete control of the game with around 4 minutes to go. They were already up 34 points and what do they do? Throw a deep route simply to try and put up 60. Ultimately they broke a 38 yard touchdown run, but the fact that just two plays prior they were throwing a deep route that was intended to just run up the score makes me lose respect for them and the BCS. If it weren't for that damn money hungry BCS Stoops wouldn't be forced to run up the score and get "style points" for how they win. There is no reason up 34 with 4:30 left in the game that Sam Bradford should even be in that game when they already know that they are going to be going to the National Championship game. I never wish injury on anyone but boy do I wish he could of twisted ankle or something of the sort to teach Stoops a lesson. I was pretty upset when he ran it up on Texas Tech a few weeks ago as well. It seems pretty classless to me.

I completely agree. I was AT this game last night, since I am currently a graduate assistant with the Mizzou band, and that deep route play with 4 minutes left thoroughly pissed me off.

Mizzou fans pretty much went into this game knowing we were gonna lose, we just wanted to get it over with. Running up the score that late and playing the starters the whole game was just plain CLASSLESS. I've always hated Bob Stoops, but this game just made that hatred stronger!

The guy is fighting for a chance to play for a national championship. He can't leave anything to chance with the screwy BCS system. I don't blame him at all. If he where coaching my team, or your team for that matter, I'd expect the same mentality...and so would you.

No, I would not expect the same mentality, and here's why: I see NO scenario where Oklahoma wins this game AND gets bumped out of the BCS Championship game. Florida and Alabama played each other, the loser was going to drop in the BCS. The only teams they would have to be worried about jumping them in the BCS were Texas and USC. Texas was obviously idle this week. There's no way Texas jumps Oklahoma when Oklahoma beats Mizzou (no matter what the score) and Texas is idle. NO WAY!! USC played UCLA, and that was not a high enough quality opponent for them to be able to jump Oklahoma after a win over Missouri. I stand by what I said. Stoops was just plain classless.....

Congrats Jlozer8...you're the only one in America that understands the BCS. You also know how the voters in both polls are going to vote. Bob Stoops didn't.

I'm sure that winning by 41 instead of 34 made all the difference in the voters' minds.

[Rollo83]

Why is it that teams from OK seem to think that they have to run up scores and break records? Last night I saw a Bob Stoops team, that I once had respect for, purposely run up the score against Missouri. They were in complete control of the game with around 4 minutes to go. They were already up 34 points and what do they do? Throw a deep route simply to try and put up 60. Ultimately they broke a 38 yard touchdown run, but the fact that just two plays prior they were throwing a deep route that was intended to just run up the score makes me lose respect for them and the BCS. If it weren't for that damn money hungry BCS Stoops wouldn't be forced to run up the score and get "style points" for how they win. There is no reason up 34 with 4:30 left in the game that Sam Bradford should even be in that game when they already know that they are going to be going to the National Championship game. I never wish injury on anyone but boy do I wish he could of twisted ankle or something of the sort to teach Stoops a lesson. I was pretty upset when he ran it up on Texas Tech a few weeks ago as well. It seems pretty classless to me.

I completely agree. I was AT this game last night, since I am currently a graduate assistant with the Mizzou band, and that deep route play with 4 minutes left thoroughly pissed me off.

Mizzou fans pretty much went into this game knowing we were gonna lose, we just wanted to get it over with. Running up the score that late and playing the starters the whole game was just plain CLASSLESS. I've always hated Bob Stoops, but this game just made that hatred stronger!

The guy is fighting for a chance to play for a national championship. He can't leave anything to chance with the screwy BCS system. I don't blame him at all. If he where coaching my team, or your team for that matter, I'd expect the same mentality...and so would you.

No, I would not expect the same mentality, and here's why: I see NO scenario where Oklahoma wins this game AND gets bumped out of the BCS Championship game. Florida and Alabama played each other, the loser was going to drop in the BCS. The only teams they would have to be worried about jumping them in the BCS were Texas and USC. Texas was obviously idle this week. There's no way Texas jumps Oklahoma when Oklahoma beats Mizzou (no matter what the score) and Texas is idle. NO WAY!! USC played UCLA, and that was not a high enough quality opponent for them to be able to jump Oklahoma after a win over Missouri. I stand by what I said. Stoops was just plain classless.....

Congrats Jlozer8...you're the only one in America that understands the BCS. You also know how the voters in both polls are going to vote. Bob Stoops didn't.

I'm sure that winning by 41 instead of 34 made all the difference in the voters' minds.

The difference between #2 Oklahoma and #3 Texas was .0200 of a point and #1 Oklahoma was another .0300 ahead of that. The point is, nobody knows what's coming out of that BCS computer. The speculation was that the Alabama voters in the polls were going to switch to Florida and they would possible vote Texas over Oklahoma, because Texas won the head-to-head match-up. Oklahoma needed style points against Missouri and not just a win. I don't blame OU at all for not leaving anything on the field and removing any doubt. I can't tell you if a 41 point win versus a 34 point win made any difference. Nobody can...so you play it all out.

[FlagCityFalcon]

if you have a problem with it...stop them.

just like a gimmie putt...if you're mad that somebody didn't give it to you, then make the putt!

[jlozer8]

Why is it that teams from OK seem to think that they have to run up scores and break records? Last night I saw a Bob Stoops team, that I once had respect for, purposely run up the score against Missouri. They were in complete control of the game with around 4 minutes to go. They were already up 34 points and what do they do? Throw a deep route simply to try and put up 60. Ultimately they broke a 38 yard touchdown run, but the fact that just two plays prior they were throwing a deep route that was intended to just run up the score makes me lose respect for them and the BCS. If it weren't for that damn money hungry BCS Stoops wouldn't be forced to run up the score and get "style points" for how they win. There is no reason up 34 with 4:30 left in the game that Sam Bradford should even be in that game when they already know that they are going to be going to the National Championship game. I never wish injury on anyone but boy do I wish he could of twisted ankle or something of the sort to teach Stoops a lesson. I was pretty upset when he ran it up on Texas Tech a few weeks ago as well. It seems pretty classless to me.

I completely agree. I was AT this game last night, since I am currently a graduate assistant with the Mizzou band, and that deep route play with 4 minutes left thoroughly pissed me off.

Mizzou fans pretty much went into this game knowing we were gonna lose, we just wanted to get it over with. Running up the score that late and playing the starters the whole game was just plain CLASSLESS. I've always hated Bob Stoops, but this game just made that hatred stronger!

The guy is fighting for a chance to play for a national championship. He can't leave anything to chance with the screwy BCS system. I don't blame him at all. If he where coaching my team, or your team for that matter, I'd expect the same mentality...and so would you.

No, I would not expect the same mentality, and here's why: I see NO scenario where Oklahoma wins this game AND gets bumped out of the BCS Championship game. Florida and Alabama played each other, the loser was going to drop in the BCS. The only teams they would have to be worried about jumping them in the BCS were Texas and USC. Texas was obviously idle this week. There's no way Texas jumps Oklahoma when Oklahoma beats Mizzou (no matter what the score) and Texas is idle. NO WAY!! USC played UCLA, and that was not a high enough quality opponent for them to be able to jump Oklahoma after a win over Missouri. I stand by what I said. Stoops was just plain classless.....

Congrats Jlozer8...you're the only one in America that understands the BCS. You also know how the voters in both polls are going to vote. Bob Stoops didn't.

...ok. It seems like common sense that when you're ranked #2 in the BCS with 1 week to go, and the #1 and #4 ranked teams play each other, you're in if you win.

That has nothing to do with understanding the BCS, because I certainly don't understand how Oklahoma got to #2 in the first place, but the facts say that they were #2, they played a top 25 team, the #3 team was idle, the #1 and #4 teams played each other, and the #5 team played an un-ranked team.

What scenario do you see where it is possible that Oklahoma wins and moves down in the BCS rankings? I really would like to hear this!!!

[TexCat]

I am not degrading Oklahoma... I was making an observation.

As far as Oklahoma... are you delusional? Oklahoma was in, all they had to do was win the championship game. There was no way with the way ESPN has been all over Oklahoma's nuts that they weren't going to get in.

Now as far as BG running up the score... as far as putting up 40+ a game... we kinda of needed to put up that many points because our D was giving up just about that many. The Temple game, honestly... it's been covered so many times I don't even really want to get into that one... how bout the fact that Partridge broke the punt for a TD with only 10 on the field... or the fact that we ran the SAME RUNNING play a few times in a row and they still couldn't stop it. That was with our 2nd and 3rd string players in... not our star quarterback...

GET REAL!!!

Do I understand this correctly? BG can run up a score because it was needed but Oklahoma cannot?

The Big 12 South Division finished in a three way tie. There are a lot of people who live in Texas who believe that UT should have been playing the game versus Missouri.......it's the "head to head" match-up theory. I'm no great Oklahoma fan. However, Stoops and Oklahoma had a point to prove in order to stave off a snubbing in the polls which could have cost them a shot at a national championship. They proved it rather emphatically. Even the excessive whining of Mack Brown (which is usually successful) didn't work this time around.

This year's BCS bowl match-ups are the best I've seen in years.....including the national championship game.

Go Bearcats! Go Buckeyes! Go Falcons! Go Ohio football! (In that order)

Texcat

[eRichFalcon]

...ok. It seems like common sense that when you're ranked #2 in the BCS with 1 week to go, and the #1 and #4 ranked teams play each other, you're in if you win.

That has nothing to do with understanding the BCS, because I certainly don't understand how Oklahoma got to #2 in the first place, but the facts say that they were #2, they played a top 25 team, the #3 team was idle, the #1 and #4 teams played each other, and the #5 team played an un-ranked team.

What scenario do you see where it is possible that Oklahoma wins and moves down in the BCS rankings? I really would like to hear this!!!

What part of the BCS employs common sense?

Really, by and large I don't think running up the score is a good thing. In fact, I believe that there was a certain element of Karma in the way that Temple ended their big losing streak against BG after the consecutive 7-spots we put on them.

That said, when you're fighting for the championship and the grading scale is based on margin of victory and style points, I'm not going to fault a coach for leaving nothing to chance. Anything less, and he wouldn't be doing the job he's making 4 or 5 million dollars a year to do in my opinion.

In the NFL where tiebreakers are based on common opponents and such things, all that matters is the W, and running up the score is unnecessary and none too classy. Unfortunately the institution in place has made it in the coaches best interest to run it on up, especially against a quality opponent. Not Stoops' fault.

[fredthefalcon]

Heard a Heisman voter reveal on radio today that because of Stoops' decision to leave Bradford in the game to run up numbers he left Bradford off his ballot. His picks: #1 Colt McCoy, #2 Tim Telford, #3. Harrell - Texas Tech.

[Rollo83]

Heard a Heisman voter reveal on radio today that because of Stoops' decision to leave Bradford in the game to run up numbers he left Bradford off his ballot. His picks: #1 Colt McCoy, #2 Tim Telford, #3. Harrell - Texas Tech.

They should take away his Heisman vote if uses that criteria on a kid.

[h2oville rocket]

Heard a Heisman voter reveal on radio today that because of Stoops' decision to leave Bradford in the game to run up numbers he left Bradford off his ballot. His picks: #1 Colt McCoy, #2 Tim Telford, #3. Harrell - Texas Tech.

Wow! That Telford pick came out of nowhere. If he builds up much support he might be the biggest surprise EVER! Bigger than Rosie Ruiz, even. Before she got caught.

[vwfalcon]

Tex,

I don't call it running up a score if we put up around 40 and the opponent puts up around 30... I do think that is needed.

There was no need to go for a deep ball with that much time left, and having Bradford throwing it is an even bigger issue. Honestly, Oklahoma was the number 2 team last week, there was no way they were going to be leapfrogged by two teams.

As for your second statement... I would have rather seen Boise take on Texas due to the fact that they are ranked higher than Ohio State in the BCS rankings. Boise is undefeated, Ohio State has two losses... one of which was a laugher and the other a game they pissed down their leg.

[TexCat]

Tex,

I don't call it running up a score if we put up around 40 and the opponent puts up around 30... I do think that is needed.

There was no need to go for a deep ball with that much time left, and having Bradford throwing it is an even bigger issue. Honestly, Oklahoma was the number 2 team last week, there was no way they were going to be leapfrogged by two teams.

As for your second statement... I would have rather seen Boise take on Texas due to the fact that they are ranked higher than Ohio State in the BCS rankings. Boise is undefeated, Ohio State has two losses... one of which was a laugher and the other a game they pissed down their leg.

If you have ever heard Mack Brown whine about being screwed, you'd appreciate the reason why OU put up the scores they did. Brown is notorious for it. He started over a week ago. The OU - Missouri game took away his complaint.

Boise State played a really powerhouse schedule:

Sat, Aug 30 Idaho State W 49-7 --
Sat, Sep 13 Bowling Green W 20-7 --
Sat, Sep 20 at (17) Oregon W 37-32 --
Wed, Oct 1 Louisiana Tech W 38-3 --
Sat, Oct 11 at Southern Miss W 24-7 --
Fri, Oct 17 Hawaii W 27-7 --
Fri, Oct 24 at San Jose State W 33-16 --
Sat, Nov 1 at New Mexico State W 49-0 --
Sat, Nov 8 Utah State W 49-14 --
Sat, Nov 15 at Idaho W 45-10 --
Sat, Nov 22 at Nevada W 41-34 --
Fri, Nov 28 Fresno State W 61-10 --

I'd hate to add up the won-loss records of their opponents but I'll bet it's not too impressive. The Buckeyes play in a league that anyone of them can win (usually). As it is, OSU tied (again) for the conference championship. They played miserably against USC (who many feel should be in the national championship game). However, the Buckeyes were playing without their main player, Beanie Wells. They lost a close game to Penn State due to one mistake.

Cincinnati lost to a UConn team because the Bearcats fell asleep after the first quarter. Had they stayed awake, they'd be 12-1 instead of 11-2. They figured that out afterward and never looked back.

More goes into bowl selections than rankings. Other things are fan following and the ability to play well in big time bowl games. The Buckeyes have probably the biggest out of state fan following in the country. They also play very well in the Fiesta Bowl. In 2002, I watched a Texas - OSU football game at a local sports bar in Houston. We decided to drive down there (about 40 miles) because it's where their alumni club gathered for games. We drove in and found over 500 Buckeye fans in the bar in full regalia. 500 Buckeye fans in Houston, Texas!

Boise State won on a fluke play in overtime last year. I enjoyed the play and enjoyed watching Oklahome get whacked. However, on a week to week basis, Boise State would get killed in a major BCS conference.

I wish you guys well in your search for a new head coach. I enjoy Falcon football and I don't quite understand the decision to decline any kind of bowl game...........except for not having a coach.

Texcat

[Dr.Sooner]

To say Oklahoma runs up the score shows your true ignorance about the subject. You are spending too much time listening to ESPN and not enough time actually watching the games.

Just for your information texAss has scored four times more points in the fourth quater this year then has Oklahoma.

We have been averaging close to 50 points a game by halftime the last six games. The vast majority of our starters play very little in the in the second half. If you had bothered watching any Oklahoma games and done some research then you would not have made such a ridiculous statement.

[cw08]

People who complain about running up the score:

Losers
Lightbulb replacers
Girls high school basketball coaches

[Ryan Autullo]

People who complain about running up the score:

Losers
Lightbulb replacers
Girls high school basketball coaches

My online victims in NCAA 2009.