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[BGSU33]

#whatthe****wasthat

[mmisbg]

#whatthe****wasthat

Are you quoting Evil Dead: The Musical?

[Falconwriter]

Comparing this to Brandon isn't even fair IMO. GB was spoon fed a good team and went 11-3, losing three games to top ten teams. Babers was spoon fed a good team and just got blown out by WKU. 1-3 starts looks likely.

Babers was spoon fed a team that returned a top defensive unit basically in-tact -- and his coaching staff turned it into a sieve that was torched for over 500 yards passing and almost half as many touchdowns through the air as the unit gave up during the ENTIRE 2013 season.

If you can't see the huge red flags, you're color blind.

All night long, BG's defensive backs played 10 to 15 yards off WKU's receivers, allowing them to play pitch and catch with the QB, make a move to set up their blocking, and then gain huge chunks of yardage down the field. Even after this debacle pushed WKU out to a nice lead early in the game, the BG staff did not make adjustments to tighten coverage.

Either the staff has ZERO faith in the abilities of its secondary, or we just witnessed some of the worst defensive coaching you can witness in college football. Neither is a good omen for the coming season.

And in the first half when "Falcon Fast" seemed to be related more to a lack of offense, rather than the speed at which they played, little was done by the coaches to settle the offense down; allow them to take a deep breath and regroup.

Again, poor coaching.

All during the buildup to this campaign we were told how good this defense was, and how to expect an offense that would keep defenses off balance and score lots of points. We saw the opposite of both statements, for the most part, last night. And while the offense did play better in the second half, it was far too little, much too late, especially with a defense that couldn't bring itself to cover receivers closely or tackle well in space.

Fundamentally, it was a very poorly played game by BG; which also makes you wonder what the coaching staff was doing as it was implementing its very up tempo offense; and (apparently) dismantling what had once been a nationally ranked defense.

Coach Dino Babers came to BG with a very good reputation as a coach -- but this inauspicious beginning has got to have Falcon fans wondering if he's a good fit for this team.

[slashba33]

When we lost to Pitt in the bowl game I was disappointed, but after that complete disaster last night, I am nothing but pissed!!!

[kdog27]

Comparing this to Brandon isn't even fair IMO. GB was spoon fed a good team and went 11-3, losing three games to top ten teams. Babers was spoon fed a good team and just got blown out by WKU. 1-3 starts looks likely.

Babers was spoon fed a team that returned a top defensive unit basically in-tact -- and his coaching staff turned it into a sieve that was torched for over 500 yards passing and almost half as many touchdowns through the air as the unit gave up during the ENTIRE 2013 season.

If you can't see the huge red flags, you're color blind.

All night long, BG's defensive backs played 10 to 15 yards off WKU's receivers, allowing them to play pitch and catch with the QB, make a move to set up their blocking, and then gain huge chunks of yardage down the field. Even after this debacle pushed WKU out to a nice lead early in the game, the BG staff did not make adjustments to tighten coverage.

Either the staff has ZERO faith in the abilities of its secondary, or we just witnessed some of the worst defensive coaching you can witness in college football. Neither is a good omen for the coming season.

And in the first half when "Falcon Fast" seemed to be related more to a lack of offense, rather than the speed at which they played, little was done by the coaches to settle the offense down; allow them to take a deep breath and regroup.

Again, poor coaching.

All during the buildup to this campaign we were told how good this defense was, and how to expect an offense that would keep defenses off balance and score lots of points. We saw the opposite of both statements, for the most part, last night. And while the offense did play better in the second half, it was far too little, much too late, especially with a defense that couldn't bring itself to cover receivers closely or tackle well in space.

Fundamentally, it was a very poorly played game by BG; which also makes you wonder what the coaching staff was doing as it was implementing its very up tempo offense; and (apparently) dismantling what had once been a nationally ranked defense.

Coach Dino Babers came to BG with a very good reputation as a coach -- but this inauspicious beginning has got to have Falcon fans wondering if he's a good fit for this team.

yeah that's why I don't compare this to Brandon at all. It took Brandon a few years to look lost on defense. The zero adjustments are what scares me the most. He said his defense was going to be aggressive. Aggressively give up first downs he meant.

On top of that I found the offense to be very unimpressive. Very little creativity. This team spent the last 8 months reading their clippings and daydreaming about the stats they were going to put up.

[BGSU33]

There's no "D" in #falconfast

[apollo]

I was intrigued to see if the offense wasn't moving the chains how the defense would react. Obviously last night was disastrous. I understand the point of going fast, but there may be times we need to slow down a little. We don't have a chance against Indiana or Wisconsin playing like that, but I still think the team the team will be ok in the MAC if they make some adjustments....the bottom teams won't be able to keep up with our offense, Toledo, OU, and Akron may be able to.
Babers will be ok...he just had a really tough opening night. I thought Clawson did a good job recruiting, but I think he was a below average coach. Elko is clearly the guy that got the team in position to upset NIU last year. Although decent offenses usually scored on us too. We just did a really good job against the average and below average teams and then shell shocked the Huskies.

[Bassdrummin]

I was intrigued to see if the offense wasn't moving the chains how the defense would react.Obviously last night was disastrous. I understand the point of going fast, but there may be times we need to slow down a little.

Yeah, i was wondering that too. Even if we're scoring touchdowns... I was worried about the defense not getting enough time to rest up before hitting the field again.

[Siborg]

Yes, one of the reasons our D was so highly rated was due to our time eating O. Even if we had the same D as last year, an up tempo O means our D ratings will suffer since they are based on scoring, yards FDs etc... We'll have more TFL, Int etc.... for the same reason.

Our D lost their middle and 3/4s of their starting DBs, I think they will be ok but don't expect them to dominate good teams. Our D did not dominate good teams last year either.

[gspointer]

Yes, one of the reasons our D was so highly rated was due to our time eating O. Even if we had the same D as last year, an up tempo O means our D ratings will suffer since they are based on scoring, yards FDs etc... We'll have more TFL, Int etc.... for the same reason.

Our D lost their middle and 3/4s of their starting DBs, I think they will be ok but don't expect them to dominate good teams. Our D did not dominate good teams last year either.

Totally agree.. Good teams exposed our D last year. We dominated against lesser teams. What is interesting is that many teams are running a "falcon fast" type of offense. Watching WV do it WKU ran plays at least as fast as we did. This just might not be that "special" of an approach anymore...

[MarkL]

Yes, one of the reasons our D was so highly rated was due to our time eating O. Even if we had the same D as last year, an up tempo O means our D ratings will suffer since they are based on scoring, yards FDs etc... We'll have more TFL, Int etc.... for the same reason.

Our D lost their middle and 3/4s of their starting DBs, I think they will be ok but don't expect them to dominate good teams. Our D did not dominate good teams last year either.

Totally agree.. Good teams exposed our D last year. We dominated against lesser teams. What is interesting is that many teams are running a "falcon fast" type of offense. Watching WV do it WKU ran plays at least as fast as we did. This just might not be that "special" of an approach anymore...

And Nick Saban's motivation for making up-tempo offenses illegal has nothing at all to do with his 2012 loss to A&M, near 2013 loss to A&M, 2013 loss to Auburn, 2013 loss to Oklahoma, or his current game with WVU. It's all about player safety ...

[Globetrotter]

Yes, one of the reasons our D was so highly rated was due to our time eating O. Even if we had the same D as last year, an up tempo O means our D ratings will suffer since they are based on scoring, yards FDs etc... We'll have more TFL, Int etc.... for the same reason.

Our D lost their middle and 3/4s of their starting DBs, I think they will be ok but don't expect them to dominate good teams. Our D did not dominate good teams last year either.

I dont think one QB ever went 46-56 on us. Those were not great passes. Everyone was wide open. There were times that a bubble scream would happen and there wouldn't be a BG player in the television screen. It was the worst defensive scheme I have seen pretty much ever on any level of football. They did what they wanted in the passing game with few exceptions.

[jpfalcon09]

Finally back from the game, possibly the longest drive back from a road game that I've had in awhile. Still very disappointed with the effort and obviously the result. Just a couple of thoughts as most everyone has already commented on how I feel.

- It was evident from the first quarter that many of the players were out of sync and didn't know their responsibilities on both sides of the ball. Saw a lot of defensive players looking around at each other with body language that seemed to indicate they didn't really know their assignments or what defense they were supposed to be in (turned out to be none at all). I thought the first quarter set the tone for the game. Offense came out flat, had a wide open drop for a TD and then got behind early.

- A lot of the BG fans I sat by were very upset with the lack of discipline and terrible penalties taken. It was also disheartening that the coaching staff never once took a player aside after a dumb mistake and let them know about it. Many of us got the vibe that the coaching staff in general was too loosey-goosey during the game and didn't seem to really care a whole lot that they were getting thoroughly out-coached and outplayed.

- The offense should have no problem scoring points in the MAC. I really wish Ronnie Moore got involved in the game more as his touchdown was electric and really picked up the BG fans for a few minutes. Roger Lewis is also going to be a good player. I thought the running game was too simple early on and they finally got creative later on with some nice guard and center pulls. Coppet should also benefit in this system as he's got another gear once he gets going.

I really hope its nowhere but up from here. I hope this will serve as a huge wake up call for everyone in the program. The Babers honeymoon is over and we'll see just how good of a coach he really is. There's still a lot to look forward to this season and I believe there's too much senior leadership on the team to let this loss linger beyond Sunday.

[BGSU33]

Many of us got the vibe that the coaching staff in general was too loosey-goosey during the game and didn't seem to really care a whole lot that they were getting thoroughly out-coached and outplayed.

I felt the same way. It felt like Louis Orr was leading us last night. I kept waiting fir Babers to shrug his shoulders. If our coaches had a quarter of the fire as WKU's DC had it would have been nice. That guy had me ready to hit someone!

[Siborg]

Yes, one of the reasons our D was so highly rated was due to our time eating O. Even if we had the same D as last year, an up tempo O means our D ratings will suffer since they are based on scoring, yards FDs etc... We'll have more TFL, Int etc.... for the same reason.

Our D lost their middle and 3/4s of their starting DBs, I think they will be ok but don't expect them to dominate good teams. Our D did not dominate good teams last year either.

I dont think one QB ever went 46-56 on us. Those were not great passes. Everyone was wide open. There were times that a bubble scream would happen and there wouldn't be a BG player in the television screen. It was the worst defensive scheme I have seen pretty much ever on any level of football. They did what they wanted in the passing game with few exceptions.

After re-reading my statement above, I realized i should have prefaced it with "this years D is not as good as last year". I was attempting to say that even if they were as good, this year's up tempo O will make it appear as if this year's D is worse than last year. More plays thus more points allowed etc...

l absolutely agree last nights D was a debacle of epic proportions. I think, with improvement, we will be ok against most MAC teams as I think WKU will prove to be a pretty good offensive team (I hope). Indiana's offense might light us up and who knows what Wisky will do to us.