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[BGSU33]

McCloud has always been a defensive coach...look at his resume. DC at EIU and a career coaching the secondary before that. Hell, he played DB in college. Why he's now a positional coach on offense is the real question.

That's exactly my point. A guy who played on defense, coached defense, has been a DC the last several years, and now we're putting him on offense?? Seems like such an odd flip-flop. If he's not cut out to be the DC but they want to retain him, you'd think they'd move him to coach DL, coach LB's or maybe DB's and reshuffled that way. Now we're gonna throw him on the other side of the ball? If the reasoning for that is he knows how to coach defense so now he can try and attack it - count me as very skeptical.

[Dimes]

Sure this is all goofy, but what concerns me is that these coaches left the program and some players did not know until a week or 2 later? It looks like some found out through web sites, rumors and social media? Just doesn't seem right.

[Flipper]

McCloud has always been a defensive coach...look at his resume. DC at EIU and a career coaching the secondary before that. Hell, he played DB in college. Why he's now a positional coach on offense is the real question.

That's exactly my point. A guy who played on defense, coached defense, has been a DC the last several years, and now we're putting him on offense?? Seems like such an odd flip-flop. If he's not cut out to be the DC but they want to retain him, you'd think they'd move him to coach DL, coach LB's or maybe DB's and reshuffled that way. Now we're gonna throw him on the other side of the ball? If the reasoning for that is he knows how to coach defense so now he can try and attack it - count me as very skeptical.

I think this is just another one of those instances where you have to look at Dino and say "WTF"? and hope there's some kind of internal logic behind the decision making process

[BGSU33]

McCloud has always been a defensive coach...look at his resume. DC at EIU and a career coaching the secondary before that. Hell, he played DB in college. Why he's now a positional coach on offense is the real question.

That's exactly my point. A guy who played on defense, coached defense, has been a DC the last several years, and now we're putting him on offense?? Seems like such an odd flip-flop. If he's not cut out to be the DC but they want to retain him, you'd think they'd move him to coach DL, coach LB's or maybe DB's and reshuffled that way. Now we're gonna throw him on the other side of the ball? If the reasoning for that is he knows how to coach defense so now he can try and attack it - count me as very skeptical.

I think this is just another one of those instances where you have to look at Dino and say "WTF"? and hope there's some kind of internal logic behind the decision making process

I agree. I hope whatever pans out that it works.

[MarkL]

2 things
1. McCloud was effectively fired as DC but retained as a coach. He must be a good coach in terms of player development and he was a decent DC at EIU but it is clear he failed here as DC.
2. Coaching DBs and coaching WRs is actually very similar. For example, Gregg Brandon was a DB IIRC and a DB coach before switching to I think TEs/WRs and then becoming a great OC. To have a guy with a lot of coaching experience and now the title of assistant HC coaching the WRs is I think a good thing.

[Falcon137]

Nice to see a shakeup. Even with the injuries and graduation from 2013, there was a lot of talent leftover to see such a huge drop off from one year to the next.

Every year it is a pleasant surprise Monroe is still a coach here. He is a helluva recruiter in South Florida and a great defensive backs coach. You've got to think he would be on the short list for d coordinator, unless Babers wants fresh eyes.

Also, McCloud made, $140,000 as D Coordinator last year. That is an insane number for BG to pay for a wide receivers coach if he isn't taking a pay cut.

[Schadenfreude]

Sure this is all goofy, but what concerns me is that these coaches left the program and some players did not know until a week or 2 later? It looks like some found out through web sites, rumors and social media? Just doesn't seem right.

Yeah, that. Plus, a rather lengthy silence from Babers and the athletic department to the public about it. Maybe that works at Eastern Illinois, but this doesn't seem the best approach in FBS.

Maybe there were other factors for the radio silence we could not see, but it seemed a bit strange.

[MarkL]

Also, McCloud made, $140,000 as D Coordinator last year. That is an insane number for BG to pay for a wide receivers coach if he isn't taking a pay cut.

I suspect you've uncovered the reason for the assistant HC job title.

[MarkL]

Sure this is all goofy, but what concerns me is that these coaches left the program and some players did not know until a week or 2 later? It looks like some found out through web sites, rumors and social media? Just doesn't seem right.

Yeah, that. Plus, a rather lengthy silence from Babers and the athletic department to the public about it. Maybe that works at Eastern Illinois, but this doesn't seem the best approach in FBS.

Maybe there were other factors for the radio silence we could not see, but it seemed a bit strange.

Winter break. No opportunity for a team meeting means no opportunity to spread messages. Most head coaches prefer breaking news face to face instead or over email or phone call.

[Flipper]

Weak excuses....you need to update your players when stuff like that happens.

But then Dino has been pretty tight lipped about pretty much everything from day one

[Falcon137]

Also, McCloud made, $140,000 as D Coordinator last year. That is an insane number for BG to pay for a wide receivers coach if he isn't taking a pay cut.

I suspect you've uncovered the reason for the assistant HC job title.

Gilbert and Mattox leaving opened up, $170,000. That money (assuming BG isn't increasing the budget) needs to pay for a RB and DL coach, offensive and defensive coordinator.

Kauffman was DC at the University of Chicago, Monroe was co-DC at Colgate. So if they do hire from within, there is some experience.

On offense, I would imagine Lewis and Babers and possibly McCloud will be calling the plays.

If I had to guess, Monroe, Lewis, and Mickens get raises, and there is a new running backs coach and defensive line coaches.

Paying McCloud that much to coach receivers and be "associate head coach" is insane.

[jpfalcon09]

I'm more curious as to what Babers does on the defensive side of the ball. He could in all likelihood act as the OC and call the plays himself if he wants, and I think Jordan Strack made mention that he had some input this past season on that. Hiring a DC with experience and who believes they can stay at BGSU for the near future is going to be important for the defensive guys going forward. Having three DCs in a three year span has got to be tough on the players to be able to get familiar with the coaches.

[Schadenfreude]

Maybe there were other factors for the radio silence we could not see, but it seemed a bit strange.

Winter break. No opportunity for a team meeting means no opportunity to spread messages. Most head coaches prefer breaking news face to face instead or over email or phone call.

Yeah. I suppose college football teams don't do conference calls or phone trees?

[Flipper]

I'm curious who Dino thinks is going to his "natural position" as a coach? Lynch has never coached OL, Lewis has never coached QB's, McCloud has never coached WR's. Freeman has coached both OL and DL...but he's now the "assistant to the assistant" on the OL. As it sits, we have no OC, no DC, no RB coach and no DL coach and we have two guys coaching DB's and two guys coaching the OL.

This strikes me as being somewhat odd....

[Schadenfreude]

This, from OrangeandBrown, seemed like a smart post.

http://orangeandbrown.blogspot.com/2015 ... staff.html" target="_blank