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To get beat by 70+ TWICE in only four games takes lack of talent, bad coaching and bad luck. My concern from the beginning (and there is nothing to prove me to think otherwise) is Jinks was never a college head coach, never worked with his complete coaching staff before coming here and many of them don't have experience coaching at this level or the positions they are currently in. And PLEASE don't say..."Well, Urban had to build his staff from the ground up before coming here." Any comparison there is apples to oranges.

If I was Moosbrugger, I would prepare for letting this staff go NOW. Why support a lame duck hire you had nothing to do with?? We have had challenges in the past with rebuilding, but this is off the charts!!

I can't remember who brought up Briles as the replacement, but I love that idea. That's where Baber's offense came from, we have Baber's recruits still on our team, could continue to use the openings Jinks has providing in recruiting Texas and would have a coach who might hang around for 5 years or so. His son Kendal (OC at Baylor) may even be available to succeed him if not plucked by someone else.
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Jinks is way in over his head. Press conference today he was excited to tell reporters they ran 2 plays against MTSU in the second half. A game they lost by 20 and didn't score in that half. His team was getting embarrassed, he goes for it on 4th down from his own 30. Both teams scored 77, and really had to shut it down early for 77 not to become 100. Our eyes don't lie, this is a mess.
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slashba33 wrote:To get beat by 70+ TWICE in only four games takes lack of talent, bad coaching and bad luck. My concern from the beginning (and there is nothing to prove me to think otherwise) is Jinks was never a college head coach, never worked with his complete coaching staff before coming here and many of them don't have experience coaching at this level or the positions they are currently in. And PLEASE don't say..."Well, Urban had to build his staff from the ground up before coming here." Any comparison there is apples to oranges.

If I was Moosbrugger, I would prepare for letting this staff go NOW. Why support a lame duck hire you had nothing to do with?? We have had challenges in the past with rebuilding, but this is off the charts!!

I can't remember who brought up Briles as the replacement, but I love that idea. That's where Baber's offense came from, we have Baber's recruits still on our team, could continue to use the openings Jinks has providing in recruiting Texas and would have a coach who might hang around for 5 years or so. His son Kendal (OC at Baylor) may even be available to succeed him if not plucked by someone else.
1) We only lost by 67 at Ohio State, but that's not why I'm replying.

2) I would rather give up 77 points in every game than hire the guy who was in charge during the prolonged dumpster fire that has been Baylor football over the last few years. I don't care if he's a good coach, and I don't care if he runs the system that we ran last year or if he runs the Wing-T. He presided over a Baylor program that had a culture of undisciplined players, violence and sexual assault cases. The allegations of what went on there are horrible, and even if just a fraction of the reports are true, it's enough for me to want that guy to stay far, far away from the school I support. Seriously, I'd rather go 0-12 under Mike Jinks than have Art Briles as my team's coach.

3) As someone said earlier, BGSU does not have the money to buy out a coach with four-plus years remaining on his contract. We can talk all we want about replacements, but unless a donor or booster donates $2-3 million to the program specifically to get rid of the current coaching staff, it ain't gonna happen.
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Hire Briles? This is why I really have come to dislike FBS football. The man turned a blind eye to rapes...rapes. Violent sexual assault..the most degrading and dehumanizing crime I can think of...was OK in his book if you were good at football. Is winning a few games really that important to you guys that you'd hire a scumbag like that?

Re Jinks....I think he can grow into this job. We have to hope he can because we don't have the $$$ to buy him out. Nowhere to go but up...so let's start climbing
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slashba33 wrote:To get beat by 70+ TWICE in only four games takes lack of talent, bad coaching and bad luck. My concern from the beginning (and there is nothing to prove me to think otherwise) is Jinks was never a college head coach, never worked with his complete coaching staff before coming here and many of them don't have experience coaching at this level or the positions they are currently in. And PLEASE don't say..."Well, Urban had to build his staff from the ground up before coming here." Any comparison there is apples to oranges.

If I was Moosbrugger, I would prepare for letting this staff go NOW. Why support a lame duck hire you had nothing to do with?? We have had challenges in the past with rebuilding, but this is off the charts!!

I can't remember who brought up Briles as the replacement, but I love that idea. That's where Baber's offense came from, we have Baber's recruits still on our team, could continue to use the openings Jinks has providing in recruiting Texas and would have a coach who might hang around for 5 years or so. His son Kendal (OC at Baylor) may even be available to succeed him if not plucked by someone else.
I want nothing to do with the Briles family and my earlier post that bears his name was tongue in cheek.

Moose isn't going to do a damn thing unless big name donors come beating on his door. He's not going to go on a crusade to raise money to oust the current coach behind his back while tweeting his support for the program, anything other than that is simply wishful thinking. Jinks will be here in 2017.
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slashba33 wrote:To get beat by 70+ TWICE in only four games takes lack of talent, bad coaching and bad luck. My concern from the beginning (and there is nothing to prove me to think otherwise) is Jinks was never a college head coach, never worked with his complete coaching staff before coming here and many of them don't have experience coaching at this level or the positions they are currently in. And PLEASE don't say..."Well, Urban had to build his staff from the ground up before coming here." Any comparison there is apples to oranges.

If I was Moosbrugger, I would prepare for letting this staff go NOW. Why support a lame duck hire you had nothing to do with?? We have had challenges in the past with rebuilding, but this is off the charts!!

I can't remember who brought up Briles as the replacement, but I love that idea. That's where Baber's offense came from, we have Baber's recruits still on our team, could continue to use the openings Jinks has providing in recruiting Texas and would have a coach who might hang around for 5 years or so. His son Kendal (OC at Baylor) may even be available to succeed him if not plucked by someone else.
1) We only lost by 67 at Ohio State, but that's not why I'm replying.

2) I would rather give up 77 points in every game than hire the guy who was in charge during the prolonged dumpster fire that has been Baylor football over the last few years. I don't care if he's a good coach, and I don't care if he runs the system that we ran last year or if he runs the Wing-T. He presided over a Baylor program that had a culture of undisciplined players, violence and sexual assault cases. The allegations of what went on there are horrible, and even if just a fraction of the reports are true, it's enough for me to want that guy to stay far, far away from the school I support. Seriously, I'd rather go 0-12 under Mike Jinks than have Art Briles as my team's coach.

3) As someone said earlier, BGSU does not have the money to buy out a coach with four-plus years remaining on his contract. We can talk all we want about replacements, but unless a donor or booster donates $2-3 million to the program specifically to get rid of the current coaching staff, it ain't gonna happen.

Sorry about the math...but I guess you take a lot of stock in 3 pts.

So, I guess BG football has been the corner stone of high moral standards when it comes to our players we have had here and even let in to our program KNOWING they have a criminal past. I'm not a Briles supporter by any stretch, but don't get all high and mighty that we walk on water here at BG and wouldn't be open to a hire like that. Jinks' staff is getting into bar fights here for crying out loud!

You may not get your 0-12 with Jinks, but 1-11 looks pretty damn realistic right now.
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I must be living under a mushroom...

With the firing of Les Miles, I was going to suggest Greg Studrawa be given a chance...little did I know, he's now the OL coach at O$U under Meyer and he was actually at Maryland in the same role in 2014 and 2015 .

D'oh.
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slashba33 wrote:
threestooges wrote:
slashba33 wrote:To get beat by 70+ TWICE in only four games takes lack of talent, bad coaching and bad luck. My concern from the beginning (and there is nothing to prove me to think otherwise) is Jinks was never a college head coach, never worked with his complete coaching staff before coming here and many of them don't have experience coaching at this level or the positions they are currently in. And PLEASE don't say..."Well, Urban had to build his staff from the ground up before coming here." Any comparison there is apples to oranges.

If I was Moosbrugger, I would prepare for letting this staff go NOW. Why support a lame duck hire you had nothing to do with?? We have had challenges in the past with rebuilding, but this is off the charts!!

I can't remember who brought up Briles as the replacement, but I love that idea. That's where Baber's offense came from, we have Baber's recruits still on our team, could continue to use the openings Jinks has providing in recruiting Texas and would have a coach who might hang around for 5 years or so. His son Kendal (OC at Baylor) may even be available to succeed him if not plucked by someone else.
1) We only lost by 67 at Ohio State, but that's not why I'm replying.

2) I would rather give up 77 points in every game than hire the guy who was in charge during the prolonged dumpster fire that has been Baylor football over the last few years. I don't care if he's a good coach, and I don't care if he runs the system that we ran last year or if he runs the Wing-T. He presided over a Baylor program that had a culture of undisciplined players, violence and sexual assault cases. The allegations of what went on there are horrible, and even if just a fraction of the reports are true, it's enough for me to want that guy to stay far, far away from the school I support. Seriously, I'd rather go 0-12 under Mike Jinks than have Art Briles as my team's coach.

3) As someone said earlier, BGSU does not have the money to buy out a coach with four-plus years remaining on his contract. We can talk all we want about replacements, but unless a donor or booster donates $2-3 million to the program specifically to get rid of the current coaching staff, it ain't gonna happen.

Sorry about the math...but I guess you take a lot of stock in 3 pts.

So, I guess BG football has been the corner stone of high moral standards when it comes to our players we have had here and even let in to our program KNOWING they have a criminal past. I'm not a Briles supporter by any stretch, but don't get all high and mighty that we walk on water here at BG and wouldn't be open to a hire like that. Jinks' staff is getting into bar fights here for crying out loud!

You may not get your 0-12 with Jinks, but 1-11 looks pretty damn realistic right now.
Yeah, good plan. BG has had a few incidents over the last few years, so let's embrace it & hire the guy who is the poster child for rape culture & a program run amok. Great idea. Maybe if Briles turns us down we can see if Dave Bliss is available. Idiot.
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Double post -- apparently I was so angry I posted my reply twice.
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Yeah..the program is in a rough spot while the new coach works his way into things. Let's have a knee jerk moment and spend money we don't have to kick him out ...that won't make us look ...unstable...not at all. Then we can hire Briles...yeah..that's what we need..we need to make the program more rapey because nothing says "winner" like embracing rape.

no..behaving that way won't make us look like a joke..not at all
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The dust will settle and some low tier power 5 school will hire that scumbag.
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Let's be honest. We all had expectations from the past years without really looking at what was staring us in the face. Jinks knew we were short in key areas that's why he went after juco players for wr and D backs but very few showed up. With Matty J being the starter knapke didn't get reps last year but we expected him to grow from 2014? The dbacks have been a bandaid since clawson and the era of booboo gates. Luckily we had eilar hardy transfer last year but he was a bandaid. Since clawson we've had starting dbacks injured, kickoff the team, suspended, no continuity. Today I watched dbacks in a zone let receivers catch the ball before moving. They just need time and coaching. Morgan had some good throws that weren't caught. The ball was where it needed to be or it would have been intercepted but a taller receiver would have or should have had it. Yes Morgan misfired a few some batted down but for his first game he got reps he needs to learn from. As for the coaches yes some are more than likely over their heads but that too may change. Hard to watch yes disappointed yes but really we are in a rebuilding year. Although I liken it to a reconstruction due to so many areas that need attention
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Tech2000 wins for post of the season so far...yeah this royally sucks but Jinks deserves a chance to show what he can do. Babers did nothing about recruiting and simply used us like so many coaches do...use us to a bigger pay day. Seeing Syracuse give up tons of points and losing doesn't make me sad. This is very difficult but to throw Jinks, as this is all his fault, under the bus is ridiculous.
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This is true. Like him or not Babers did BG no favors going forward. Ran this program with a foot out the door. I don't blame him but definitely not going to praise him either.
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kdog27 wrote:This is true. Like him or not Babers did BG no favors going forward. Ran this program with a foot out the door. I don't blame him but definitely not going to praise him either.
Dino deserves credit for getting Lewis and Dieter to BG, problem is that just like him they already had one foot out the door when they got here. I agree with everything else though, outside of Morgan he didn't really do a whole lot to help BG for the future. Clawson's last class wasn't that great either to be honest. Jinks is going to need time and hopefully he can recruit well enough to restock the cupboard before too long. I always say this about coaches, they get too much credit when a team wins and too much blame when it loses...the answer lies somewhere in the middle.
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