Cole Magner

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:56 pm

How is Keon, a great playmaker with ST's stud written all over him a less viable option than a 4th WR at best on last years team? Lets get serious here. cole will get a look but most likely will not get drafted.

Jassen Patton didn't get drafted and couldn't make a NFL roster, so why would Keon do any better? I thought Patton was the more talented of the two. It would take the absolute right situation for Keon to stick in the NFL.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:20 pm

Germainfitch1 wrote:In a post about Omar Jacobs leaving early you stated that teams won't flag Jacobs for a drop in production his senior year but here you state its a red flag for Cole?

In the scenario outlined in the Omar post he would duplicate (or improve upon) his SO year numbers in his JR year. Then after suffering an exodus of the talent around him, his numbers slipped his SR year. In that scenario Omar put up 2 great seasons. This past year he set the record for TD:INT ratio, that's saying something. NFL Scouts have already noticed Omar. If he follows that up with one good season he will be firmly on their radar, even if he does have a slight stepback in his senior year.

In Cole's case he was a playmaker but was non-descript before the '03 season. He then had a very good season which might've made some scouts take notice of him. They are then going to look with how he follows it up, and this season was a disappointment. Surely if they took the time to look beyond his stats they'd see that he was hurt, and still played through it, but if they didn't look beyond them they might not care or know.

In my mind stats open a scout's eyes, then once they're open they're looking for more than stats. In Omar's case his season was phenomenal and he's already got the scouts' eyes open. In Cole's case, even his great year wasn't earth shattering. There were 10 WRs who had more receiving yards this year than Cole did in '03, and there were at least 20 who had as many or more TDs than Cole did in '03.

I guess my contention is that Cole was a very good player here, but he was not special enough to be a legit draftable prospect in the NFL.

Oh yeah, there's a big difference between a QB & a WR as well. You can almost bet that when you put QB as your position your draft stock goes up at least 1/2 a round. If you combine it with an above average arm strength and you're really looking like a first day prospect even if your stats are mediocre. Combine it with what Omar has already done, and you're looking pretty good.

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:33 pm

Rollo83 wrote:
How is Keon, a great playmaker with ST's stud written all over him a less viable option than a 4th WR at best on last years team? Lets get serious here. cole will get a look but most likely will not get drafted.
Jassen Patton didn't get drafted and couldn't make a NFL roster, so why would Keon do any better? I thought Patton was the more talented of the two. It would take the absolute right situation for Keon to stick in the NFL.

Jannsen Patton is a Pittsburgh Steeler right now! ANd Keon has the fumble creating mentality that STs coaches are drooling over. Try changing a game more than scoring a TD and then having the ball back inside the other teams 30.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:14 pm

kslates wrote:
golfertk14 wrote:
kdog27 wrote:
golfertk14 wrote:I've heard rumors that Cole's gonna go in the 3rd or 4th round this saturday. One friend said that he was only a good WR because he played behind Josh Harris. I feel he's good enough for a second round pick, am I the only one that feels this way..or is he really that good?
Did you just make this up to post something because I don't think there are too many rumors that Magner will go in the third round.
I heard it from some of my friends, and I believe one of the NFL analysts on ESPN (whose name convienently escapes me) was talking about the MAC and the potential draftees a few weeks ago.
I have TIVOed all of the draft shows on ESPN and NFL Network and I have not heard anyone mention anything about Cole in any round

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Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:24 pm

I'd like to see Keon get a shot, but I don't think he has the top line speed to stick.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:57 pm

Germainfitch1 wrote:
Rollo83 wrote:
How is Keon, a great playmaker with ST's stud written all over him a less viable option than a 4th WR at best on last years team? Lets get serious here. cole will get a look but most likely will not get drafted.
Jassen Patton didn't get drafted and couldn't make a NFL roster, so why would Keon do any better? I thought Patton was the more talented of the two. It would take the absolute right situation for Keon to stick in the NFL.
Jannsen Patton is a Pittsburgh Steeler right now! ANd Keon has the fumble creating mentality that STs coaches are drooling over. Try changing a game more than scoring a TD and then having the ball back inside the other teams 30.

Patton was picked up just recently, after being released in training camp. During the offseason NFL teams have expanded rosters compared to the 53 that they must choose during the regular season. Patton wasn't good enough last year to be on the 53, but was good enough to be picked up for the larger roster and another shot in TC to prove himself. I'm surprised that they didn't send him to NFLE.

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:09 pm

hammb wrote:This past year he set the record for TD:INT ratio, that's saying something.

Actually Brian I think he just missed out on the record. He was leading going into the Memphis game but the interception he had cost him the record.

He did set the record for TD passes by a Sophomore QB however by eclipsing the mark held by Chad Pennington.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:14 pm

Redwingtom wrote: Actually Brian I think he just missed out on the record. He was leading going into the Memphis game but the interception he had cost him the record.

Nope, he still got the record. The INT might have brought him "off pace" for a moment, but the 5 or 6 TD passes he had that game gave him the record back.

EDIT: http://bgsufalcons.collegesports.com/sp ... mar00.html (in the middle, 7th row down)

golfertk14 · Post by **golfertk14** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:16 pm

Germainfitch1 wrote:Those rumors are swirling everywhere. Ha. great point. Cole a second round pick? Thats laughable.

How is that laughable? He is good enough for a 2nd or 3rd rounder in my book. In fact I'll bet you any amount of money C.M. goes in the 3rd round or higher.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:22 pm

I got $400 that says Magner will not be drafted before the 4th round, you taking golfer?

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:23 pm

golfertk14 wrote:How is that laughable? He is good enough for a 2nd or 3rd rounder in my book. In fact I'll bet you any amount of money C.M. goes in the 3rd round or higher.

Dibbs on the kid's bank account!

I love what Cole did for BG as much as anyone, and hope he gets a chance at an NFL deal. But, for reasons stated ad nauseum here, I would be flat out shocked if he went in the first 3 rounds. Not so surprised if he'd get drafted eventually, but top three rounds is saying ALOT.

BGFalcons232 · Post by **BGFalcons232** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:40 pm

golfertk14 wrote:
Germainfitch1 wrote:Those rumors are swirling everywhere. Ha. great point. Cole a second round pick? Thats laughable.
How is that laughable? He is good enough for a 2nd or 3rd rounder in my book. In fact I'll bet you any amount of money C.M. goes in the 3rd round or higher.

how many of us can get in on this one? i'll bet you evey last penny i have that cole doesn't go on the first day.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:09 pm

golfertk14 wrote: How is that laughable? He is good enough for a 2nd or 3rd rounder in my book. In fact I'll bet you any amount of money C.M. goes in the 3rd round or higher.

Careful he said "C.M." and not Cole Magner (might be someone else with those initials

but yes if you are referring to Cole Magner going in the 3rd round or before, PM me with how much you would like to bet on that.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:37 pm

I'll put up my house & truck on that one too. And every penny in my bank account. And my left testicle, right kidney, and my spleen.

I'd be less shocked to see Aliens land at the draft and announce their intentions to enslave mankind than I would be to see Cole Magner get drafted on Saturday.

I love your fandom kid, and I love what Cole's done for this team, but unless a lot of players get involved in knife fights between now and Saturday there is no way that Cole goes on the first day of the draft.

golfertk14 · Post by **golfertk14** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:18 pm

BGFalcons232 wrote:
golfertk14 wrote:
Germainfitch1 wrote:Those rumors are swirling everywhere. Ha. great point. Cole a second round pick? Thats laughable.
How is that laughable? He is good enough for a 2nd or 3rd rounder in my book. In fact I'll bet you any amount of money C.M. goes in the 3rd round or higher.
how many of us can get in on this one? i'll bet you evey last penny i have that cole doesn't go on the first day.

I'll take you on that one. I say he goes first day.

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