When is it alright for your coach to leave?

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I know at some big time athletic schools the coaches' 7-figure salaries come almost exclusively from private funding. Maybe after Cole is banking Marvin Harrison money he can give some back and we can hire Mike Ditka.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I know at some big time athletic schools the coaches' 7-figure salaries come almost exclusively from private funding. Maybe after Cole is banking Marvin Harrison money he can give some back and we can hire Mike Ditka.
It figures thats what it would be. The more big money donors you have the more chance of success. I guess thats the way the cookie crumbles. :|
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falconboy wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
falconboy wrote:If we only had more money. We do need to up Brandon's pay for sure.
Time to raise tuition above and beyond what the state says we can.

We should also raise the price for a parking pass as well and funnel all of that extra money over to Intercollegiate Athletics. We probably have 4,500 students living on-campus. Jump that sticker up another $25 and you raise an easy $112,500. Imagine if we raised the price for commute students too. WOW! Look at the pay raises we could give some coaches.

Since you bring up these hypthetical price hikes for things, what is the the main source for money for the athletic dept.? Is it the same thing for the OSU and Michigan's of the world? Is it just the plain fact that OSU has 110,000 fans showing up at every game at $48 bucks a ticket and thats how they do it? Or is it other things?
Good point...especially since OSWho's ticket price has jumped to $61 PER ticket. And those tix ain't on the 50. :wink:

A few years ago, Marshall fans ponied up almost $1 Mil to make sure Pruett stayed there.
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falconboy wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:
falconboy wrote:If we only had more money. We do need to up Brandon's pay for sure.
Time to raise tuition above and beyond what the state says we can.

We should also raise the price for a parking pass as well and funnel all of that extra money over to Intercollegiate Athletics. We probably have 4,500 students living on-campus. Jump that sticker up another $25 and you raise an easy $112,500. Imagine if we raised the price for commute students too. WOW! Look at the pay raises we could give some coaches.

Since you bring up these hypthetical price hikes for things, what is the the main source for money for the athletic dept.? Is it the same thing for the OSU and Michigan's of the world? Is it just the plain fact that OSU has 110,000 fans showing up at every game at $48 bucks a ticket and thats how they do it? Or is it other things?
For the large schools its other things, mostly, but also think about how much more money a school like Penn state could bring in for their athletic department on student fees than BG can. At UK a large part is TV contracts and alumni/fan support. UKs new basketball contract was worth so much that the Athletic department gave the University 5million dollars, on top of the 1mill they normally give the school every year. In order to get lower deck seats (impossible anymore to get, so I mean keep) at Rupp Arena there is an extra fee of about 2K dollars that helps fund the AD. This all adds to there coffers, Plus tradition and history are on the side of many of the big money schools. Most were the main university in that state allowing them to acquire a larger base of suppot.
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Well I would hope the AD and President have given this some real hard thought...
But what comes to my mind is esp for GB is a Bowl Bonous...
Lets give the coachs some of the money, say a 25% salry bonous for a MAC title, and half the take from the schools take at a bowl...from the schools perspective half of a half is better than a half of a nothing...and god imagine if we a top 6 spot...GB would have to want to stay...

But in ernest I can not see the school doing this...
I do See Gb leaving BG, I see GB moving but not to far from BG...I see him at a Big Ten school ......wont say which one but that is what I see in my tea leafs.
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MACMAN wrote:But what comes to my mind is esp for GB is a Bowl Bonous...
Lets give the coachs some of the money, say a 25% salry bonous for a MAC title, and half the take from the schools take at a bowl...from the schools perspective half of a half is better than a half of a nothing...and god imagine if we a top 6 spot...GB would have to want to stay...
I like the concept. The issue here is that our bowls aren't netting much money.

In theory, they pay $750,000 or $800,000 -- but there may be some bowl expenses subtracted from that (a contract to help with marketing expenses, for example, or a guarantee to cover a certain number of tickets if they go unsold * ). Then the expense of the team flight and lodging would be subtracted out.

Whatever is left is then divied up among all MAC schools. It may be broken into anywhere from 13 to 15 shares, which each MAC non participant getting one share, the MAC office getting a share or two and the participating team getting a share or two. I'm not sure of the exact formula.

In any case, we aren't talking much money. I'd guess Bowling Green's take from the GMAC Bowl could be in the low five figures, and maybe not even that high.
But in ernest I can not see the school doing this...
I do See Gb leaving BG, I see GB moving but not to far from BG...I see him at a Big Ten school ......wont say which one but that is what I see in my tea leafs.
I'm not sure I would limit his interest to a Big Ten school. He grew up out west, he coached out there, and he interviewed at Nevada-Las Vegas. I would think the right opportunity out there (and UNLV clearly wasn't it) might really interest him.

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* It seems to me that the Motor City Bowl is in solid enough shape where a ticket guarantee is no longer an issue. But it may still be an issue for the GMAC Bowl. Some of you will recall the earnestness with which Bowling Green urged us to buy tickets from the university -- and the number of empty seats on our side of the field. I think weather probably played a huge role, with locals refusing to watch a game in a torrential downpour. But it may reflect the fact that the GMAC still requires a ticket guarantee.
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