SEC fans...

[Jacobs4Heisman]

IMO, the SEC year in and year out is the premier conference in college football. I don't want to get into arguments about the merits of conferences and I don't really have any statistical data to back up my opinion. The b11 and the MAC are the 2 conferences I am extremely familiar with and the rest I just know as much as I see on TV. From what I have seen and heard about the SEC gameday experience, it's the best in all the land.

Put us in the SEC and we probably go 6-2 or 5-3. Put Any of the top 5 SEC teams in the MAC conference and they sweep the slate (in all likelihood) unless us or Miami puts a perfect game together. I agree with whoever said apples and oranges.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

Well, I already know y'all will tell me my opinion doesn't count b/c I am a girl. But personally, I think the SEC & the Big 12 South are the toughest conferences (surprise). That is just based on my own observations over the past few years.

As for whether MAC is on par with those: good question. I know the MAC has made great strides since I graduated. But I will just tell you, as you already know, people in those other conferences will not buy into the beauty of the MAC even after getting beaten by them. When given scholarship offers from various schools in SEC-Big12-Big10-PAC10 schools, vs. scholarship offers from the MAC, most kids would pick the former. And, for what it's worth ($0), all of the unnamed Big 12 players I know think the MAC sucks & is subpar football.

Presumably these unnamed players aren't from Missouri or Kansas.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

Well, I already know y'all will tell me my opinion doesn't count b/c I am a girl. But personally, I think the SEC & the Big 12 South are the toughest conferences (surprise). That is just based on my own observations over the past few years.

As for whether MAC is on par with those: good question. I know the MAC has made great strides since I graduated. But I will just tell you, as you already know, people in those other conferences will not buy into the beauty of the MAC even after getting beaten by them. When given scholarship offers from various schools in SEC-Big12-Big10-PAC10 schools, vs. scholarship offers from the MAC, most kids would pick the former. And, for what it's worth ($0), all of the unnamed Big 12 players I know think the MAC sucks & is subpar football.

The Big Ten will be the best this year.

[MACMAN]

First post from a year long lurker...so please get used to the total absence of gramer and spelling ability.
But here is my feeling, the feeling of a guy who grew up a BGSU Fan.

The BCS has ruined college football. First they ruined the fun in speculating who was better after teh Bowls were done. they created a system tht is by all counts a monopoly that discriminates against over 50% of all DI schools and half of the conferences. They controll who plays whom in this system and who gets to have bowl money.
Should Bcs choose or be forced to allow near equal opurtunity for all D1 then with in 5 years the SEC, ACC Big 10 will be no better than MWC, MAC Big EAst. Why becasue of one statement being utter to a youngman and his parents in thier living room...." (insert name here) ..i am not going to Lie to you, you are great player, you have great potential and can have an imdiate impact in our on system on our team, you can come to ( insert school) and son...you can help us as we compete each year for a National Championship"


take that statement out of the equation and all teams are equal...and initially I bet more of the top players pick BGSU, esp in a situation where all confrence winners advance to the playoffs, aginst an equall number of the next none confrece winners who are in the highest remaining spots in the polls.

BGSU is a great team and getting better...

[UK Peregrine]

The BCS has ruined college football.

The more voices, the better. Welcome to the world of posters and great first post MACMAN. With comments like the above, I already know that I'm going to enjoy reading further commentary from yourself.

http://www.bcs-sucks.com/

[MACMAN]

sorry I prematurly entered that...

I believe on oour Best days we can have game against any team, as I belive that last year the Utes would have beaten USC, but since momentum and most importantly teams do not play off, and Champions are not made on the field of play where on any given day a team can win. We are still left to wonder ...wonder more so than if playoffs were implemented, playoffs where each team has real chance to shape thier own destiny.

there are only two ways we can change this...first encourage the players to boycot the bowls....doubt full at best
write Senators like Mike Dewine to force the BCS to go away...and implemet the NCAA playoff system...but the NCAA in charge so to speak

So here is my lofty prediction for this year
BGSu geats Wisc by 20, bosie by 10 beats Miami by 17 and we winthe MAc title....we are undefeated...every other school has one loss we finish 18th in the polls, and can beat any team in college football or hang a close finish...Omar puts amazing numbers and does not get invited to NY and goes #1 inthe draft for QB;s DOOM AND GLOOM
But I will be happy why...cause we get more media attention, game day comes back for the Toledo game and and the U signs a 2 for 1 with us. to be palyed in cleveland

[Schadenfreude]

UK was the worst team in the SEC last year and Ohio beat them...fair enough.

No. Illinois was pretty damn good in '03...Bama was coming NCAA probation and was a very weak SEC team that year (4-9, 2-6).

These points do not differ with mine. One great MAC team in a given year could possibly beat 5 or 6 SEC teams,

You originally said the equivalent of three-and-a-half:

overall top MAC teams would be likely be beaten rather handily by most SEC teams except for Kentucky, Vandy, Miss. State, and sometimes Ole Miss.

Six? Now we are gettin' somewhere.

just like the Big 10 or ACC. However, the odds that the top 5 SEC teams would lose to even a MAC conference champion is extremely low in my opinion.

FWIW, I forgot about last year's Georgia-Marshall game. Georgia won, 13-3.

Was Marshall (6-6) a top MAC team last year?

We saw what the Falcons did to Marshall in Perry Stadium.

Could Bowling Green have beaten Georgia last year?

I certainly think it's possible.

If we keep goin' with this, eventually, I'm going to get around to bringing up the 1986 Miami-Louisiana State game.

[BGBreeze]

Well, I already know y'all will tell me my opinion doesn't count b/c I am a girl. But personally, I think the SEC & the Big 12 South are the toughest conferences (surprise). That is just based on my own observations over the past few years.

As for whether MAC is on par with those: good question. I know the MAC has made great strides since I graduated. But I will just tell you, as you already know, people in those other conferences will not buy into the beauty of the MAC even after getting beaten by them. When given scholarship offers from various schools in SEC-Big12-Big10-PAC10 schools, vs. scholarship offers from the MAC, most kids would pick the former. And, for what it's worth ($0), all of the unnamed Big 12 players I know think the MAC sucks & is subpar football.

You are correct leave the football talk to the men!

P.S. Make sure you have those cookies baked for the tailgate party

[Ineedbotox]

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You are correct leave the football talk to the men!

P.S. Make sure you have those cookies baked for the tailgate party

a- When I am not obsessing over how many fat grams are in them, I actually make DELICIOUS chocolate chip cookies;

b- I am not bringing any of them to you; and

c- If I did drag myself back to the great white North, I would have my delicious chocolate chip cookies served to you by a very large unnamed Big 12 (well SWC) lineman.



And, by the way, very large unnamed Big 12 lineman's brother who played at a crappy D-II school also thinks MAC sucks (of course I disagree & take up for us all the time).

[Falconfreak90]

BGSU can play with ANY team in the country.

Of course, I don't think the MAC is on the level of the SEC...But Marshall did lose to Georgia last year 13-3. BG blasted the Herd by 21 and it could have been much worse.

BTW, SEC stands for "South Eastern Cheaters" conference. Everybody that follows college ball knows that just about every school in that league is under sanctions or being investigated. Them "good ole boys" cut deals in back rooms.

Sure, they have some great teams. But they also have Miss State, Vanderbilt and Kentucky.

If the MAC teams had the resources of the SEC or Big 10, we'd be right there with them. That kills me. Some people say "Well, if you played the SEC or Big 10 sched, you wouldn't win anything."
Well, if BG WAS in one of those leagues, according to that theory, we'd have comparable facilities and resources.

As I said, BGSU can line up on the field against anybody in the nation...we may not win, but we will sure give you some damn good football.

Division 1-A is Division 1-A.

GO BG!~

[hammb]

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You are correct leave the football talk to the men!

P.S. Make sure you have those cookies baked for the tailgate party

a- When I am not obsessing over how many fat grams are in them, I actually make DELICIOUS chocolate chip cookies;

b- I am not bringing any of them to you; and

c- If I did drag myself back to the great white North, I would have my delicious chocolate chip cookies served to you by a very large unnamed Big 12 (well SWC) lineman.



And, by the way, very large unnamed Big 12 lineman's brother who played at a crappy D-II school also thinks MAC sucks (of course I disagree & take up for us all the time).

No offense to your hubby, Botox, but are you telling me that somebody who played for BAYLOR is dogging the MAC?!?

BG'd hang 70 on Baylor, and not slow down to think about it. Baylor!? Not too sure Baylor's football program has much room to talk about anyone outside of Temple.

[Ineedbotox]

Who said I was talking about Baylor hammb? I was talking about UNNAMED players in the Big 12, who used to play in SWC. (Don't you realize the Passive-Aggressives out there are sick of hearing about unnamed players I know...)

Anyhoo, when unnamed players played in SWC, they didn't suck. I can see SWC players bagging on the MAC, but not D-II players (like 2 of my bro-in-laws actually). And, I completely agree that after seeing the BG-OU stuff, BG could beat Baylor, by 70 though??? But then again, anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Which explains why Baylor beat A&M last year.

[Falconfreak90]

Baylor shouldn't be doggin anybody in college football.

The SWC hasn't been in existence in some time. It was a great football conference....

Unnamed players in the big 12? Would they be from Missouri or Kansas cuz we slapped the crap outta them. Oklahoma beat us by 16.
I'd say we do pretty well vs the big 12 these days.

[Ineedbotox]

My guess is that the BG-Wisconsin, A&M-Clemson & OSU-Texas games will answer MANY of the questions posed here today, and may even put a few of you into the girl category baking cookies for the tailgate, but we shall see.

[DevilGrad]

A few quick points:

(1) SEC motto: "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!"

(2) If you're feeling churlish, you can blame Central Michigan for the BCS. (Read Roy Kramer's bio.)

(3) Baylor had a very good football team when Grant Teaff was still there. I won't embarass any real or hypothetical former players by reminding y'all how long it has been since he retired.

(4) Botox's cookies sound great, but I'll take a pass, even if she relents and brings them to the tailgate. I don't trust a lawyer not to make a batch of 'em for y'all using chopped up pieces of Ex-Lax.