QB comparison

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Haha. I don't seriously think any MAC player will ever win the Heisman, but if Omar comes back next year's he's got as good a chance as any MAC player has ever had.

A better chance.

I honestly think he could win it next year.

if the school and team takes the necessary steps to give him the opportunity.
he may be in NY this year while he watches leinart win his second heisman. but he will have his BEST chance next year if he chooses to come back. i don't think ginn will be a factor because the winner isn't decided on speed. peterson and the sooners have the own problems to deal with and he is gradually dropping out of the limelight. there are some other worthy competitors, but none of which are at QB.

who knows?

none of us are experts, except j4h, so we'll just have to sit back and cheer on the falcons so they can take advantage of every possible opportunity.

ha ha ha....punk

Omar has a decent chance of making it to NY this year and 0 chance of winning IMO. Next year if he stays, he's almost a lock for NY and has a decent chance of winning if we have 1 or 0 losses. That's the "if" of the century. We'll see what happens between now and then.

I do think the odds of him staying are increasing however.

I'm with Schad that Omar will have the best chance of any MAC player ever to win the Heisman if he stays for his senior season.

[patrickbg]

agreed.

[hammb]

I'm with Schad that Omar will have the best chance of any MAC player ever to win the Heisman if he stays for his senior season.

I should've re-stated my previous post, because I too agree with Schad. If Omar comes back next year he'll have the best chance of any MAC player EVER to win the award.

I'm still not convinced that it'll be enough, but the stage will be set. 2 years of hype, 3 years of numbers, and some big games against Big10 schools next year. He would need to perform well in those games, and we'd need to win at least one of them, but it is all quite conceivable.

[1987alum]

... but it is all quite conceivable.

As opposed to ...



Sorry, couldn't resist.

[sbrown]

From Omar's POV, I don't see why he would stay another year at BG. Its not like he could be on a National Championship team (Leinert) or has to prove himself after a serious injury (Deangelo Williams). I think that Omar came to college as a catalyst for making it to the NFL, and not for the education. His major is something like Recreational Studies isn't it? After this year, he will have gotten the exposure that he wanted from college ball and will take the next step to the pros. Guaranteed. I think something drastic would have to happen for him to come back. I remember being apprehensive when Josh Harris left, but Omar stepped up so big. I have the same confidence in Turner - I think that the team will be his next year and that he will be up for the challenge.

[BGFan]

From Omar's POV, I don't see why he would stay another year at BG. Its not like he could be on a National Championship team (Leinert) or has to prove himself after a serious injury (Deangelo Williams). I think that Omar came to college as a catalyst for making it to the NFL, and not for the education. His major is something like Recreational Studies isn't it? After this year, he will have gotten the exposure that he wanted from college ball and will take the next step to the pros. Guaranteed. I think something drastic would have to happen for him to come back. I remember being apprehensive when Josh Harris left, but Omar stepped up so big. I have the same confidence in Turner - I think that the team will be his next year and that he will be up for the challenge.

Perhaps to show appreciation to a university that gave him a chance when nobody else did? He seems to me to be that kind of a guy.

[Schadenfreude]

Its not like he could be on a National Championship team

If Bowling Green could run the table next year, they would be in a BCS game. No question in my mind.

Not saying we would. I mean, the loss of Sharon and Sanders strikes me as a pretty Big Deal.

After this year, he will have gotten the exposure that he wanted from college ball and will take the next step to the pros. Guaranteed.

Question is: How high will Omar go?

Did the Boise State game hurt him? How much?

If Omar could move from deep in the first round to a top five pick, that might be worth staying another year.

(I'm not saying Omar is deep in the first round, just laying out a scenario in which it might make sense for him to stay).

[Jacobs4Heisman]

From Omar's POV, I don't see why he would stay another year at BG. Its not like he could be on a National Championship team (Leinert) or has to prove himself after a serious injury (Deangelo Williams). I think that Omar came to college as a catalyst for making it to the NFL, and not for the education. His major is something like Recreational Studies isn't it? After this year, he will have gotten the exposure that he wanted from college ball and will take the next step to the pros. Guaranteed. I think something drastic would have to happen for him to come back. I remember being apprehensive when Josh Harris left, but Omar stepped up so big. I have the same confidence in Turner - I think that the team will be his next year and that he will be up for the challenge.

I know one reason -- it's starts with L and ends with einart. Depending on the draft order, there may not be more than one QB that goes in the top 10 this year. If he stays for another year he has a great shot to be a top 10 or number 1 pick. Maybe he wants a crack at that great schedule to prove to the scouts he can ball against serious defenses.

I started the year leaning towards him leaving, now I'm leaning the other way. I think guaranteeing one way or the other is a bit premature. We'll see.

[hammb]

Question is: How high will Omar go?

Did the Boise State game hurt him? How much?

If Omar could move from deep in the first round to a top five pick, that might be worth staying another year.

(I'm not saying Omar is deep in the first round, just laying out a scenario in which it might make sense for him to stay).

The Boise game hurt Omar in the eyes of scouts...it showed weakness. The Wisconsin game also hurt him in the eys of scouts, showing weaknesses as well.

Right now I doubt very seriously if Omar is higher than the 3rd QB taken in the draft this year. Leinart is the unquestioned #1 QB coming into next year's draft. What has hurt Omar, more than anything he could've done himself, is the development of Vince Young. VY has become a legit passer, improving on defensive recognition & accuracy. He's always been an outstanding athlete & leader, so those are givens with him. I think he's become a mid to high first rounder based on his play this season (if he chooses to leave early). If both guys leave early, I think Omar would be the 3rd pick.

If I'm a scout here's what I feel about Omar:

Positives:

Strong Arm
Accuracy
Good size
Moves in pocket while looking downfield
Huge Numbers in red zone
Previous success of MAC QBs bodes well

Negatives:

Offense...call it gimmicky or not it is drastically different than an NFL offense. Always shotgun.
Doesn't call his own audibles...more than just a lack of ability it shows a lack of confidence by the coaching staff in his abilities.
Doesn't use god given athleticism to make plays with his legs, almost refuses to run.
Drops head in the heat of intense pressure, looks at blitzers.
Despite prevous success, still MAC competition.
LACK OF LEADERSHIP
Poor performances in national spotlight games.
Poor mechanics on release
Tendency to disappear at times in games
Tries to do too much at times...sometimes overconfident in arm.



In the end I put Omar as a mid to late first rounder if he comes out this year. He has things to improve upon, and some of them are MAJOR questionmarks. He has shown absolutely no leadership of his football team in his career, and that's the biggest question mark to me. I would need to see a personality test, because a true franchise QB should be a leader, and we haven't seen that.

I doing a breakdown like this its probably a coin toss whether Omar stays or goes. Going into the season we read so much top 10 draft hype that I thought it was a foregone conclusion that he'd bolt for the NFL this year. Seeing this season have not seen the type of improvement that would make him a top 10 pick, in my eyes. I put him on the same level as Roethlisberger as a prospect...tons of talent, but not polished yet. Where he went in the draft would be mostly dependent on where teams that needed QBs were picking.

One matter that could, although I'm not 100% buying into it, effect his future is his relationship with the coaching staff. I have read on NFL messageboards from people who claim to know players and whatnot that Omar & the coaching staff is not 100% on the same page. Spart could possibly give us more info, and I don't really think the sources are entirely credible, but thought I'd throw it out there. Basically some say that Coach Brandon unfairly criticized Omar after the UT game last year (and he was harsher than I'd expect). These internet rumor-mongers also claim that Omar does NOT like this audible system that we run, and that he thinks they're hampering his NFL draft stock (which it absolutely does). I put next to nil credence in any of this, but if there is even an ounce of truth to this (which I doubt) it could play in his future decisions.

[Bleeding Orange]

Omar may not be the greatest leader, but if there is one thing he has proven in a year and 4 games is that he is a TEAM player. I don't think Omar is unhappy with the audible system at all (remember, it was implemented to ease play-calling in loud, hostile environments). I would wager that it is the NFL prognosticators who are unhappy with the system because they have a very narrow view of the game of football and how it should be played. Reason #4,652 why the NFL sucks now.