Anthony Turner, Ryan Patrick Arrested

USGFreddie05-06 · Post by **USGFreddie05-06** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:58 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
USGFreddie05-06 wrote:As a former President of USG, I can tell you that they would be removed from the organization if they were busted for this type of behavior.
I really don't mean to be argumentative. But as someone who, back in my day, ... um... saw more than one USG senator engage in "this type of behavior," I'm having an extremely difficult time believing this.

The office of campus involvement and most orgnanizations require their membership to be in "good standing" with the university. These events would not put you in good standing, to say the least.
I don't share your assumption. I don't know the BGSU diciplinary procedures, in part because I never went through them.

The papers say Turner may go on probation of some kind. My strong hunch: That's still good standing.

Seems to me the "good standing" rule is simply about defining who is and who isn't a BGSU student.

I don't see anything preventing A.T. from running for (or being appointed) USG senator right now, if he had any interest.

Yes, it is a bigger story because the young men are football players, but most students would be removed from there leadership positions on campus.

The spring of my sophomore year, I was convicted of disorderly conduct off campus when police busted up an off campus party. The summer before my senior year, I was arrested (and later convicted) of drunken driving within sight of campus by campus police -- a much more serious offense than the allegations now facing Turner or Patrick.

Neither incident triggered campus disciplinary procedures (and I'm guessing that's because neither occurred on campus). Neither had any effect on my leadership positions at the student newspaper. Neither had any impact on my academic full ride.

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Things have changed abit on campus since you may have gone to school. If you are charged with a crime off campus, you will also go through the university discipline procedures in addition to whatever happens to you in court. For example, some studnets were arreseted in Columbus after a OSU game for their "festivities" and they went through the university discipline, as would those on Spring break if the university was aware of it.

If you are on probation, you are not in "Good Standing" It is not who and who isn't a student. Anyone who is on probation, etc.. is not in good standing, discipline-wise, with the university.

And while I don't doubt that you may have seen people engage in this behavior, I am simply saying that if most students who are leadership positions were in a similar situation, they would probably be removed from their positions

ZuluWarrior · Post by **ZuluWarrior** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:53 pm

My initial reaction was a little too strong based on my quick response to the great disappointment I felt. I believe a one game suspension is the minimum that Brandon should enforce. I would include a two strikes rule and one more strike and they're off the team.
Our football program had lost it's integrity towards the end of the Blackney era. A 13-0 season means nothing to me if there is no integrity in the program. Brandon must keep the integrity that UM built back up as importantly as the winning tradition we have gotten back to as well. If that requires a high prospect qb being made an example of, I have no problem with that.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:00 pm

I was going to edit or delete some of tekininny's posts, then I saw that the other mods and site owner had decided on a good mocking instead.

The funny thing is that he quoted me, and I happen to be one of the few OSU fans on this board. Hard to believe that he's getting even odder.

Falconballer · Post by **Falconballer** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:08 pm

Before we judge AT and other read this:

NBA OR NFL?
36
have been accused of spousal abuse
7
have been arrested for fraud
19
have been accused of writing bad checks
117
have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3
have done time for assault
71,
repeat
71 cannot
get a credit card due to bad credit
14
have been arrested on drug-related charges
8
have been arrested for shoplifting

21
currently
are defendants in lawsuits, and
84
have been arrested for drunk driving
within the last year

Can
you guess which organization this is? NBA? NFL?

Give up? Scroll down

Neither.

It's the 535 members members of the
United States Congress.

The same group who crank out hundreds of new laws each year
designed to keep US in line.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:18 pm

Falconballer wrote:Before we judge AT and other read this:
....
It's the 535 members members of the
United States Congress.

The same group who crank out hundreds of new laws each year
designed to keep US in line.

Yeah, but they're just lawmakers for the nation. He's a QUARTERBACK!!!

(Kidding, I actually love, and am amazed by, that Congressman email.)

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:21 pm

Falconballer wrote:Before we judge AT and other read this:

NBA OR NFL?
36
have been accused of spousal abuse
7
have been arrested for fraud
19
have been accused of writing bad checks
117
have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3
have done time for assault
71,
repeat
71 cannot
get a credit card due to bad credit
14
have been arrested on drug-related charges
8
have been arrested for shoplifting

21
currently
are defendants in lawsuits, and
84
have been arrested for drunk driving
within the last year

Can
you guess which organization this is? NBA? NFL?

Give up? Scroll down

Neither.

It's the 535 members members of the
United States Congress.

The same group who crank out hundreds of new laws each year
designed to keep US in line.

First off -- I don't buy those numbers. The fact that it's formatted like spam makes me even more wary.

Secondly, What does that have to do with the starting QB for BGSU making a terrible decision? Just because some congressmen aren't squeaky clean doesn't mean our QB has free license to toke up on campus. To loosely quote my mother: "If a congressman jumps off a bridge should AT jump too?"

I don't care if my neighbor or some students smoke a little weed. I'm a pretty tolerant guy. I care when a high-profile representative of my alma mater makes an ass of himself and the football program. I'm just glad it sounds like he'll be punished appropriately.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:53 pm

I'm not buying it either....

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/congress.htm

Re Turner.... If I'm Freddie Barnes, Glaud or Sheehan, I'm working extra hard this spring and summer because it looks like the starting QB isn't taking things too seriously.

Maybe he will now.

brewer · Post by **brewer** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:54 pm

To quote from snopes...

"What is surprising is that so many people willingly circulate the above-cited piece of cheap, inflammatory tripe expecting it to be taken seriously."

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/congress.htm

Yeah, mass forwarded smam emails are an excellent source to cite when trying to make a point. People will really take you seriously after doing that.

Peregrinner · Post by **Peregrinner** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:55 pm

I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I've been fairly certain, pretty much since birth, that most of our congress (and politics in general) is made up of liars, crooks and thieves.
While they represent the government of our country (which has already greatly disappointed me), AT represents my college, which is far more personal and something which hasn't already completely disappointed me.
Not trying to be a dick, just explaining.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:19 pm

Falconballer wrote:Before we judge AT and other read this:

NBA OR NFL?
36
have been accused of spousal abuse
7
have been arrested for fraud
19
have been accused of writing bad checks
117
have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3
have done time for assault
71,
repeat
71 cannot
get a credit card due to bad credit
14
have been arrested on drug-related charges
8
have been arrested for shoplifting

21
currently
are defendants in lawsuits, and
84
have been arrested for drunk driving
within the last year

Can
you guess which organization this is? NBA? NFL?

Give up? Scroll down

Neither.

It's the 535 members members of the
United States Congress.

The same group who crank out hundreds of new laws each year
designed to keep US in line.

If all that stuff is true, this is probably the most informative post I've ever seen on AZZ. If it isn't, then its among the most pointless.

SaxyIrishTenor · Post by **SaxyIrishTenor** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:35 pm

Falconballer wrote:Before we judge AT and other read this:

NBA OR NFL?
36
have been accused of spousal abuse
7
have been arrested for fraud
19
have been accused of writing bad checks
117
have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3
have done time for assault
71,
repeat
71 cannot
get a credit card due to bad credit
14
have been arrested on drug-related charges
8
have been arrested for shoplifting

21
currently
are defendants in lawsuits, and
84
have been arrested for drunk driving
within the last year

Can
you guess which organization this is? NBA? NFL?

Give up? Scroll down

Neither.

It's the 535 members members of the
United States Congress.

The same group who crank out hundreds of new laws each year
designed to keep US in line.

I bet gullible is written on your ceiling too.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:50 pm

This thread has reached the end of its useful life, IMO.

tekekini · Post by **tekekini** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:31 pm

you can say what you want..it is an illegal substance..it is a crime. letting him get away with it is saying that you are ok with criminals on your team. you are now compared to Toledo.

He should have his scholarship removed and forced to earn it back.

Why should he be allowed to stay in school for free and play football.. when in my sophomore year two kids down the hall got kicked out of school for two years for a misdemeanor possesion?

It is favoritism, it is the same thing you try to say OSU shows to their football players..

if OSU is so bad, your not better!

Working at the Bureau of Criminal Investigationsm there is a drug task force team. tell them that a small amount of marijuana is no big deal.

it is a joke that is a misdemeanor...but it is no reason to keep him on the team because it was a "misdemeanor" it just means he had a small amount this time...next time it may be a trafficking offense..its how it starts. AT is going no where in life.

Falconballer · Post by **Falconballer** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:44 pm

You guys never proved that any of that stuff was false. Just by posting a link to a website with the exact same stuff doesn't disprove anything. All I am saying is a young man made a poor decision and didnt choose his friends wisely and got in a little trouble. You guys are crucifying the kid and its sad. As if none of you guys have done anything wrong in your life. Thats all I'm saying. When you say "he's an athlete, he should know better" is crap. AT feels worse than anyone else right now and he has to live with his mug being plastered on the front page of the news. He has his punishment he has to serve and has to sit on the sideline and watch them get dominated by wisconsin and know it is partially his fault.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:45 pm

tekekini wrote: AT is going no where in life.

I don't know who the hell you think you are, and quite frankly I don't care. You have no right to make that statement. No right whatsoever. You are much more of a terrible person than we have ever given you credit for.

Anthony Turner, Ryan Patrick Arrested

Re: Turner/Patrick