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AyZiggy97 wrote:
Falcon137 wrote:
kdog27 wrote:
vwfalcon wrote:I'm not saying WMU isn't good... I'm saying they are NOT that much better than us... we have as much talent as them... they are just executing and we aren't. They are good... but we are making them look great
I agree we shouldn't lose conference games this badly. My main goal for this season was to stop seeing blowouts and be competitive every week. I can excuse last week but this is WMU, they have similar athletes.
+1

Losing 55-10 to the best team in the Big East is one thing.

45-10 to a team with almost identical athletes is another.

I'm beginning to question whether the talent level is really there.

Western Michigan started 3-6 last year before winning the last three games of the season. It is painful to watch a team grow up sometimes, but....
Check who they finished with...Eastern, Kent, BG.

BG has Toledo, Temple, Kent, Northern, OU, Buffalo.

I hope I'm wrong but BG still has to play the 4 best teams in the conference + Kent and Buffalo on the road. That said, if this team gets to 5 or 6 wins, this season will be a success.
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Falcon137 wrote:
AyZiggy97 wrote:
Falcon137 wrote:
kdog27 wrote:
vwfalcon wrote:I'm not saying WMU isn't good... I'm saying they are NOT that much better than us... we have as much talent as them... they are just executing and we aren't. They are good... but we are making them look great
I agree we shouldn't lose conference games this badly. My main goal for this season was to stop seeing blowouts and be competitive every week. I can excuse last week but this is WMU, they have similar athletes.
+1

Losing 55-10 to the best team in the Big East is one thing.

45-10 to a team with almost identical athletes is another.

I'm beginning to question whether the talent level is really there.

Western Michigan started 3-6 last year before winning the last three games of the season. It is painful to watch a team grow up sometimes, but....
Check who they finished with...Eastern, Kent, BG.

BG has Toledo, Temple, Kent, Northern, OU, Buffalo.

I hope I'm wrong but BG still has to play the 4 best teams in the conference + Kent and Buffalo on the road.

That's what I mean. It may not happen this year.
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Well.... I have been watching this team for the last 2.5 years and I have come to one conclusion... Dave Clawson have no feel for a game and does not know how to make adjustments. I have stood up and for him saying that he would adjust to the MAC Style of play but he just has not done it. That 4th and inches call when Samuel was eating up the WMU D in inexcusable. Then to go into halftime and make no adjustments and get blown out is a coaching issue. I think sometimes Clawson is to hard headed and thinks that what he saw on tape and what they practiced all week will eventually work and when it doesn't, he sticks to the gameplan to long and before he knows it he is getting his A** kicked by the other coach and then constantly complains to the officials (which I think he is probably getting a rep for). Instead of saying okay lets adjust, what I had planed for is not working and lets try something different.
Do I also think it is time to give Hurley a look of course I do. Our O-line has issues and Hurley can buy enough time and our WR and talented enough to make things happen. Does he have as strong of an arm as Schilz, no... do I think he will probably play harder and give us a better chance to win and make the rest of the season respectable, yes. This team I hope will be able to squeak out 2 more wins and win 5 this year.. but the coach isnt help us win right now.
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Something is definitely wrong. There's no way this BG team should be losing a game like this in conference.

Given what's ahead in the schedule, Clawson best be getting his act together, or he'll lose this team completely before the season is over.
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60yearsofsicsic wrote:Well.... I have been watching this team for the last 2.5 years and I have come to one conclusion... Dave Clawson have no feel for a game and does not know how to make adjustments. I have stood up and for him saying that he would adjust to the MAC Style of play but he just has not done it. That 4th and inches call when Samuel was eating up the WMU D in inexcusable. Then to go into halftime and make no adjustments and get blown out is a coaching issue. I think sometimes Clawson is to hard headed and thinks that what he saw on tape and what they practiced all week will eventually work and when it doesn't, he sticks to the gameplan to long and before he knows it he is getting his A** kicked by the other coach and then constantly complains to the officials (which I think he is probably getting a rep for). Instead of saying okay lets adjust, what I had planed for is not working and lets try something different.
Do I also think it is time to give Hurley a look of course I do. Our O-line has issues and Hurley can buy enough time and our WR and talented enough to make things happen. Does he have as strong of an arm as Schilz, no... do I think he will probably play harder and give us a better chance to win and make the rest of the season respectable, yes. This team I hope will be able to squeak out 2 more wins and win 5 this year.. but the coach isnt help us win right now.
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WMU basically tried to just run out the clock from lethe middle of 3rd quarter to the end of the game. Could have been worse. I agree on Clawson....he gets overwhelmed against decent teams/coaches.
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60yearsofsicsic wrote:Well.... I have been watching this team for the last 2.5 years and I have come to one conclusion... Dave Clawson have no feel for a game and does not know how to make adjustments. I have stood up and for him saying that he would adjust to the MAC Style of play but he just has not done it. That 4th and inches call when Samuel was eating up the WMU D in inexcusable. Then to go into halftime and make no adjustments and get blown out is a coaching issue. I think sometimes Clawson is to hard headed and thinks that what he saw on tape and what they practiced all week will eventually work and when it doesn't, he sticks to the gameplan to long and before he knows it he is getting his A** kicked by the other coach and then constantly complains to the officials (which I think he is probably getting a rep for). Instead of saying okay lets adjust, what I had planed for is not working and lets try something different.
Do I also think it is time to give Hurley a look of course I do. Our O-line has issues and Hurley can buy enough time and our WR and talented enough to make things happen. Does he have as strong of an arm as Schilz, no... do I think he will probably play harder and give us a better chance to win and make the rest of the season respectable, yes. This team I hope will be able to squeak out 2 more wins and win 5 this year.. but the coach isnt help us win right now.
Man, I really feel like I'm going to have to stop coming to AZZ because the people on this site just drive me crazy with their terrible pessimistic armchair coaching.

Would I have liked to win? Yes.

However losing on the road to one of the best teams in the conference, who is running up the score for their homecoming game, while we're a young team coming off a 2-10 season having already passed the previous years win total AND beating the defending MAC champion on the road... Seriously?

We need to stop looking at this as some sort of failure of a season because we're 3-3. The sky is not falling, Clawson doesn't yell any more than any other coach does, Schilz is still the best QB on our roster and our season isn't over because we lost. We'll move on to next week and take the season one game at a time.

And really, cut out that f-ing terrible attitude. It makes me sick.
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Well crap.... I had to go play at church and was hoping to come back to good news.... Guess that didn't happen.
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Chimie wrote: However losing on the road to one of the best teams in the conference, who is running up the score for their homecoming game.
Sadly, if they were running up the score, it wouldn't have been 45-21. I agree with much of your post, but we are a better, more proud program than one that hopes to compete with "one of the best teams in the conference" and at least come within 30.

Losing at WVU was easy to brush off as "not important to our conference hopes." This one should be a wake-up call. And not letting the result of the past two weeks happen on our home turf against our rival should be a frying pan to the forehead.

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Chimie wrote:However losing on the road to one of the best teams in the conference, who is running up the score for their homecoming game, while we're a young team coming off a 2-10 season having already passed the previous years win total AND beating the defending MAC champion on the road... Seriously?
BG has won 3 games, 2 against 1A teams. The 2, 1A teams BG has beaten have a combined 2 wins. If Miami wouldn't have come from behind against Army today, no team BG has beaten would have a win against 1A competition.

I like your optimism, but, c'mon. Facts are facts. Western called the dogs off about midway through the 3rd, it could have been a lot worse. There was nothing encouraging about today.

If BG can get 2 or 3 more wins it will be a good season. But, if they play the way they did today, with the schedule they have left....it will not happen.
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It was 10-3 last week and 14-14 this week. We got outscored after that point by a total of just under 100 pts. Thats pretty awful.

I am not calling for Clawsons head. But I am losing interest in the program. Thats probably worse.
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I like Clawson. He sure knew how to coach pretty well against Gary Pinkel when I saw him in Columbia.

I stand by Schilz as the starting qb.

But instead of Hopgood or Samuel running the wildcat I'd like to see Hurley come out in those situations instead.
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Well, I said in the predictions thread that we'd learn a lot about this team this weekend. Without seeing the game, it appears that we did and what we learned is we have a long way to go, yet.

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Well, if there is any consolation, it is that Ohio lost ( one of them few MAC games I've won this week), so the East is still wide open. I think the team will learn from this. These next two games will be huge for obvious reasons, but especially for fan support. Just like after the loss to Wyoming, I think this team will come out next week inspired and, I'm calling it now, will win by 2+ touchdowns.

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camkru9701 wrote:I think this team will come out next week inspired and, I'm calling it now, will win by 2+ touchdowns.

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