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hammb wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:52 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:47 am Those tweets are an embarrassment. Comes off like a spurned lover. Broden already has offers from major programs - Oklahoma and A&M just to name a few. Good for him. Scot knows next season is going to be a massive uphill battle. Shooting out stupid tweets isn't going to solve anything.
The second one is especially embarrassing.

Sure, be proud of developing guys enough to move on. I'm not even entirely certain you shouldn't sell it to HS recruits at this point, "Come here, play right away in the MAC. Make some plays and you could move up to the power 5!" But WHY are you touting the fact that you're taking a bunch of kids that had no other scholarship offers? WHY are you making it sound like you're taking a shot at the kids moving on to better situations? Maybe look in the mirror and see why those are the kids you're landing...might help explain your abysmal overall record.

The replies to his tweets are a bunch of kids looking for offers trying to get their names/tape seen. Really kinda feels like he just needs to fill a roster out.

Of course, really a lot of coach twitter is this rah rah come here crap, so whatever.
Yeah, the replies don't really concern me. Look at the replies for any FBS coach on Twitter. It's all the same.

I agree that these tweets aren't the best look, but a ton of current players liked the tweet, including some expected contributors, so maybe there is a method to the madness. Broden and Anderson were going to be gone, regardless. They are going to be able to go to programs that can potentially compete for a championship and also get some of that NIL money. I think Loeffler knows this and probably isn't directing anything to them. I'd guess it's the Anders, Browns, and Grants that he isn't happy with.

At the end of the day, we are going to have Loeffler next year. I don't think it's going to be pretty unless he can luck into a stud QB and a completely retooled defense, but I'll still be rooting for the Falcons. He can't whine or use any excuses, though. 7+ wins or hit the bricks.
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Globetrotter wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:03 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:04 pm Not everyone in the MAC is losing kids like we are...Toledo, CMU, Miami...they've lost far fewer kids than we have. We're getting into Kent State territory and their coach left. I think you have to view this as yet anther indictment of the way the program is being run
Who have we lost that wasn't a Covid Sr or a backup? Grant?

Broden has an offer from Texas AnM. He was gone.
What difference does their status as "Covid kids" make? The point of building it like Saint Clawson is to keep the veterans around...other MAC schools aren't bleeding veterans like we are. Again...it's an indictment of our coaching staff...they can't execute their own game plan when given the tools to do it
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hammb wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:52 am
jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:47 am Those tweets are an embarrassment. Comes off like a spurned lover. Broden already has offers from major programs - Oklahoma and A&M just to name a few. Good for him. Scot knows next season is going to be a massive uphill battle. Shooting out stupid tweets isn't going to solve anything.
The second one is especially embarrassing.

Sure, be proud of developing guys enough to move on. I'm not even entirely certain you shouldn't sell it to HS recruits at this point, "Come here, play right away in the MAC. Make some plays and you could move up to the power 5!" But WHY are you touting the fact that you're taking a bunch of kids that had no other scholarship offers? WHY are you making it sound like you're taking a shot at the kids moving on to better situations? Maybe look in the mirror and see why those are the kids you're landing...might help explain your abysmal overall record.

The replies to his tweets are a bunch of kids looking for offers trying to get their names/tape seen. Really kinda feels like he just needs to fill a roster out.

Of course, really a lot of coach twitter is this rah rah come here crap, so whatever.
We have the lowest rated recruiting class in the MAC for a reason...we offer a lot of kids that aren't getting much play from other D1 programs
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Here is a crazy concept, stop tweeting and find a quarterback. What did Toledo and Ohio have in common? Good quarterbacks that can move. What did Kent and Northern have in common the year prior? Good quarterbacks that can move.

What did Bowling Green have in 2013 and 2015? A good quarterback that can move. A quarterback so good it got Jesus Clawson and his archaic offense the Wake job, and him to retool his entire offensive philosophy.
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Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:15 am
Globetrotter wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:03 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:04 pm Not everyone in the MAC is losing kids like we are...Toledo, CMU, Miami...they've lost far fewer kids than we have. We're getting into Kent State territory and their coach left. I think you have to view this as yet anther indictment of the way the program is being run
Who have we lost that wasn't a Covid Sr or a backup? Grant?

Broden has an offer from Texas AnM. He was gone.
What difference does their status as "Covid kids" make? The point of building it like Saint Clawson is to keep the veterans around...other MAC schools aren't bleeding veterans like we are. Again...it's an indictment of our coaching staff...they can't execute their own game plan when given the tools to do it
It makes complete difference. They are playing with house money and are probably graduated.
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I don’t have an issue with the kids that are using their extra COVID season to transfer. They’ve given their time to BG and gotten their degree.

If they have an opportunity to use an “extra” season to give it a shot at P5 ball, why not? I don’t blame anyone for doing that, and I don’t see those kids leaving as that big of a deal.

Would I like to have them back? Absolutely. But do I expect it, given the current landscape of college football? No way.
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mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:28 am I don’t have an issue with the kids that are using their extra COVID season to transfer. They’ve given their time to BG and gotten their degree.

If they have an opportunity to use an “extra” season to give it a shot at P5 ball, why not? I don’t blame anyone for doing that, and I don’t see those kids leaving as that big of a deal.

Would I like to have them back? Absolutely. But do I expect it, given the current landscape of college football? No way.
They still go to school and are getting masters degrees. I work with a lot of athletes in my current work. Many search first for a program where there is a seat and then a masters degree that matches their interests.
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Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:24 am
Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:15 am
Globetrotter wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:03 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:04 pm Not everyone in the MAC is losing kids like we are...Toledo, CMU, Miami...they've lost far fewer kids than we have. We're getting into Kent State territory and their coach left. I think you have to view this as yet anther indictment of the way the program is being run
Who have we lost that wasn't a Covid Sr or a backup? Grant?

Broden has an offer from Texas AnM. He was gone.
What difference does their status as "Covid kids" make? The point of building it like Saint Clawson is to keep the veterans around...other MAC schools aren't bleeding veterans like we are. Again...it's an indictment of our coaching staff...they can't execute their own game plan when given the tools to do it
It makes complete difference. They are playing with house money and are probably graduated.
It makes no difference. A player with eligibility can stay or leave…. Anders, a graduate could have stayed. No we have no LBS. that is Loefflers fault that they didn’t have the desire to stay here. Plain and simple.
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
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Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:24 am
Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:15 am
Globetrotter wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:03 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:04 pm Not everyone in the MAC is losing kids like we are...Toledo, CMU, Miami...they've lost far fewer kids than we have. We're getting into Kent State territory and their coach left. I think you have to view this as yet anther indictment of the way the program is being run
Who have we lost that wasn't a Covid Sr or a backup? Grant?

Broden has an offer from Texas AnM. He was gone.
What difference does their status as "Covid kids" make? The point of building it like Saint Clawson is to keep the veterans around...other MAC schools aren't bleeding veterans like we are. Again...it's an indictment of our coaching staff...they can't execute their own game plan when given the tools to do it
It makes complete difference. They are playing with house money and are probably graduated.
Again...if you've built the culture you claim to be building, you keep those guys like Miami, Toledo, Ohio and CMU have
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Rogue…any idea how many more to go? Some of the offers these guys are getting obviously is going to tempt others.
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guest44 wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:43 am Rogue…any idea how many more to go? Some of the offers these guys are getting obviously is going to tempt others.
I thought about that as well. Hard not to get big eyes when you see the offers Broden is getting, especially with his obvious underuse over the last two seasons.
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We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
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roguewarrior wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:35 am
Globetrotter wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:24 am
Flipper wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:15 am
Globetrotter wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:03 pm
Flipper wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:04 pm Not everyone in the MAC is losing kids like we are...Toledo, CMU, Miami...they've lost far fewer kids than we have. We're getting into Kent State territory and their coach left. I think you have to view this as yet anther indictment of the way the program is being run
Who have we lost that wasn't a Covid Sr or a backup? Grant?

Broden has an offer from Texas AnM. He was gone.
What difference does their status as "Covid kids" make? The point of building it like Saint Clawson is to keep the veterans around...other MAC schools aren't bleeding veterans like we are. Again...it's an indictment of our coaching staff...they can't execute their own game plan when given the tools to do it
It makes complete difference. They are playing with house money and are probably graduated.
It makes no difference. A player with eligibility can stay or leave…. Anders, a graduate could have stayed. No we have no LBS. that is Loefflers fault that they didn’t have the desire to stay here. Plain and simple.
Anders could still stay. His only offer so far is D2

There was a reason coaches rotated him out.
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mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
Yeah, it's ridiculous to fault the coaching staff for guys wanting to leave for bigger programs. If anything it's proof the staff is doing a decent job at developing individual talent. But it's an opportunity to swipe at Loeffler so people are taking it. We also don't know what is going on at other MAC schools regarding NIL and the like, and why some programs aren't seeing similar attrition. There's a lot of context to all this. A guy like Anders may simply want to go get his masters in his field at a different school. Maybe BG doesn't have a program for what he's interested in? I'm surely not going to fault a guy for choosing to go that route.
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mbenecke wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:05 am We can’t be naive to the idea that schools are absolutely contacting these guys before they’re in the portal (supposed to be against the rules) to tell them they’ll get an offer to their bigger program. What are we supposed to do to keep guys at BG when P5 schools come calling? Like seriously, we can’t compete with that. I don’t think it would matter who the coach is, or how the program is, or anything like that.
And we should be doing the same. Sleeper agents everywhere.

There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't have a capable starting QB by May 1st. And there is no reason we need one by January 3rd. Just follow all of the QB competitions at major schools...see who loses...send in the sleeper agent. You are going to get guys with one year of eligibility left who don't want to sit on a bench. Take Nebraska. They have 3 guys competing for 1 job. A JR who was highly recruited, a Xfer JR from GA Tech and a SR who started last year. 2 guys have to lose. The two incumbent Nebraska players should both be on their way out if they lose.

I am not going to argue that this coach has a good offense or is building a great scheme. But these xfers are really not a big deal so far.
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