5-step process for BG to land a bowl game

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:21 am

ab1994 wrote:
factman wrote:If we win out, it very easily could be a three-way tie, which puts us right back in the hunt.
We lose a three way tie based on the tie breaker because we went to a bowl last year. NIU wins that one because they are the longest bowl no-show.

I think that is only used to decide who wins if we are unable to play the MACC game. I dont think we get screwed on that one in a 3way tie for the division. but I do go to toledo, so I'm probably wrong.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:23 am

We need an official sticky thread that clears this up, because in one of the other threads we somebody actually found the tie-breaking rule.

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:25 am

yeah thats what I was referign too, its really ify though. The rule book doesnt really explain it well, so even if you have it, its not really clear who would win. But I agree, we need this stated somewhere. Maybe even have a documents page Grant. With reference materials in it such as that.

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:30 am

BGSUfanatUT wrote:yeah thats what I was referign too, its really ify though. The rule book doesnt really explain it well, so even if you have it, its not really clear who would win. But I agree, we need this stated somewhere. Maybe even have a documents page Grant. With reference materials in it such as that.

I'm sure if you found the official rule books in PDF format, he'd make a documents section up for ya!

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:19 am

The link to the pdf file is in that other thread we started the discussion in, someone that is not me just needs to find it.

MAC Falcon · Post by **MAC Falcon** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:44 pm

Here is the tie breaker procedure

1. Head-to-Head
2. Record vs. Common Opponents
3. Record in conference crossover games
4. Point Margin

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:52 pm

MAC Falcon wrote:Here is the tie breaker procedure

1. Head-to-Head
2. Record vs. Common Opponents
3. Record in conference crossover games
4. Point Margin

Where did the point margin thing come from?

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:57 pm

BGGrad01 wrote:
MAC Falcon wrote:Here is the tie breaker procedure

1. Head-to-Head
2. Record vs. Common Opponents
3. Record in conference crossover games
4. Point Margin
Where did the point margin thing come from?

If this is accurate, maybe we better keep running up the score...

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:23 am

MAC Falcon wrote:Here is the tie breaker procedure

1. Head-to-Head
2. Record vs. Common Opponents
3. Record in conference crossover games
4. Point Margin

Where did yhis come from? I haven't seen this one, yet. The tiebreaker I've been posting is from '03-04 season. Maybe the MAC changed tiebreakers?

MAC Falcon · Post by **MAC Falcon** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:07 pm

I apologize I made an error. 3. should be who won the better conference crossover game. Ex. beating a 5-3 Marshall would be better than beating 2-6 UCF.

My source is a former representative of the MAC offices.

(People have been confusing the Big 10 tie breaker with the MAC tie breaker)

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:00 pm

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  Northern Illinois...    3  0  0  113  64 1.000    4  2  0  197 157  .667
  Toledo..............    3  0  0  153  79 1.000    4  2  0  233 222  .667
  Eastern Michigan....    2  1  0  100 100  .500    2  4  0  179 225  .333
  Bowling Green.......    1  1  0   55  48  .500    3  2  0  198 114  .600

Toledo has outscored conference opponents by 79 points.
Northern Illinois has done it by 49 points.
Bowling Green has done it by 7 points.

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:32 pm

MAC Falcon wrote:I apologize I made an error. 3. should be who won the better conference crossover game. Ex. beating a 5-3 Marshall would be better than beating 2-6 UCF.

My source is a former representative of the MAC offices.

(People have been confusing the Big 10 tie breaker with the MAC tie breaker)

So, if our scenario of a 3-way tie at 7-1 occurs (UT beats NIU and BG beats UT), then we would win because we had the best crossover opponent in Marshall?

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:36 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Code: Select all
  Northern Illinois...    3  0  0  113  64 1.000    4  2  0  197 157  .667
  Toledo..............    3  0  0  153  79 1.000    4  2  0  233 222  .667
  Eastern Michigan....    2  1  0  100 100  .500    2  4  0  179 225  .333
  Bowling Green.......    1  1  0   55  48  .500    3  2  0  198 114  .600
Toledo has outscored conference opponents by 79 points.
Northern Illinois has done it by 49 points.
Bowling Green has done it by 7 points.

Sorry for being really nit-picky, but UT is only up 74 points. Those 5 points could very well be the difference by the end of the season.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:46 pm

BGGrad01 wrote:
So, if our scenario of a 3-way tie at 7-1 occurs (UT beats NIU and BG beats UT), then we would win because we had the best crossover opponent in Marshall?

Good question.

Ohio is no pushover, either.

Our opponents are definitely stronger than NIU's opponents (Akron and Central Florida). Toledo has Miami and Ohio.

I think our slate will end up toughest.

Cork · Post by **Cork** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:10 pm

ab1994 wrote: The third MAC bowl will come, eventually. Unfortunately it won't be this year. The East and West winners will go the bowls (I know they don't have to, but they will). Marshall at 7-5 is more attractive then BG at 9-2, and Chryst doesn't have a say so in who goes where.

How about that one MAC rule where a team cannot represent the conference if said team has more than_X_ players arrested that year.

OK...maybe it's a last minute judgement call?