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[Warthog]

My first reaction was to be upset. But then I gave it some thought. Sending the FG unit out there for on that is automatic when you are already up by 28 is running up the score. Tressel was doing the sportsmanlike thing by giving us a chance to keep them from scoring. I have absolutely no problem with them going for it in that situation.

[Rightupinthere]

Reasoned logic mixed in with knee-jerk belly aching so early in the morning gives me a headache.


Where's my vodka and tomato juice?

[tekekini]

what the F duid you want them to do???kick a FG and run up the score???

maybe you wanted them to take knees all game andlet BG win?

you friggin sore losers.

Tressell went for it so he didnt have to run up the score. he wanted to give BG a chance to A) stop them or B) get the first downa nd take more time off the clock without scoring.

They were NOT trying to score..trust me if he wanted to score they would have scored.

The offense went up 21-0 and hit the brakes...not until after BG scored did OSU even really try to score..they went right down the field after BG score to show you that they could do it pretty much anytime they wanted to.

[Rightupinthere]

A friendly reminder: Don't feed the trolls.

Thank you.

Regards,
The Middle Management.

[Dayons_Den]

Cable went out so I didn't see the end of the game, but you may have heard me cussing out Comcast all the way from South Carolina.

If they sent a fade route to Ted G. on 4th and 6 then be pissed, running the clock was clearly the objective here.

We're picking nits trying to make this argument, I think if I had seen the play(s) in question I might have immediately come on here and posted something similar to the initial post as I get a little fired up during games. But standing back and looking at it thre is nothing to moan about.

Oh, and we need more Ohio State fans like Vern... and his cinaminny buns.

[Mr. Frieda]

I disagree.

To bitch about this is to just SEEK stuff to bitch about.

Amen

[McFate]

A couple of random notes on this thread:

1. Tressel has historically not run up the score. However, he puts in the second team and lets them try to run clock while hanging onto the ball (they'll usually run on 1st down and 2nd down, and pass on 3rd-and-long to maintain possession) and score if they can. They're not calling timeouts in the final minute or throwing deep bombs all over the place, but they're allowed to run the offense and try to score. This time, he let the scrubs throw short on first and second down a few times, I think in response to the second-string QB not throwing well on the third-down conversions on an earlier drive when he was in the game.

In most past years, OSU's second team has been too incompetent to do anything, and as a result, the scoring has pretty much stopped when the first team has gone out. This year, the first team and second team are pretty close in ability (except QB Smith), so putting in the second team doesn't always stop the scoring. I think it's some combination of not having as many outstanding starters as some past teams have had, and having better depth than Tressel has ever had before.

Some examples of putting the brakes on the scoring: Last season, OSU was a top-five team, and played some pretty awful opponents that they could have scored 70 on if they had tried. They held the score versus a hapless Illinois team to 40 -- less than the Illini gave up to Michigan State (61), Penn State (63), and even Wisconsin. They scored 41 on a hapless Indiana team, less than Michigan State (46), Minnesota (42), and the same as Purdue and Wisconsin -- all teams that were much worse than OSU. Tressel's teams have only scored over 50 points once since he has been head coach at OSU, and that was 51 points in a game where they had 38 points midway through the second quarter -- they put the brakes on and scored only 13 for the rest of the day.

2. In general, I consider "running up the score" to be something that the first team does. If Bowling Green had given up and puts in the scrubs, and Ohio State still had the starters in throwing deep, that's uncool (and stupid since it risks injury needlessly).

On Saturday, however, Ohio State had the second team in for a long time before Bowling Green did the same. If Bowling Green has the first string in and is trying their best to score, as they were until their very last drive, it seems a little hypocritical to complain about Ohio State's second and third teamers doing the same thing.

3. It's kind of goofy to suggest that Ohio State should have punted on 4th-and-6, from the Bowling Green 37, which I think someone did in this thread. Have you ever seen Bowling Green punt the ball from the opposition's 37-yard line? That's either a long field goal, or an attempt for a fourth-down conversion, depending on the game situation and how much faith you have in your FG kicker.

Note that OSU didn't throw long on 4th-and-6, and after the conversion, the 4th-string OSU QB (Rob Schoenhoft) was in the game and they didn't throw another pass after that. (The 3rd-string QB was unavailable, so they went from second-team Zwick, who completed the 4th-down conversion, to fourth-team -- a guy who's the backup to the scout-team QB.)

Anyway... good luck the rest of the year.

My next-door neighbor is a BGSU grad, and has a split OSU/BGSU flag that he flies on game days. BG has always been my favorite MAC team, and I'm planning to drive up and catch a game in the near future. (Been though the BG area lots of times, since my mother is a prof at the University of Windsor). It's not all that far from where I live, and it's got to be cheaper than OSU games (and OSU alums only get one pair of tickets to one game per year -- and they tell you which game -- unless they donate lots of money to the athletic department).

[FliccGirl]

It's not all that far from where I live, and it's got to be cheaper than OSU games.

Um... yeah. $16 a ticket for bench seating.

[Warthog]

On Saturday, however, Ohio State had the second team in for a long time before Bowling Green did the same.

Just to nit-pick, I know Laurenitus was still in the game the last time BG had the ball because he made the takle on the play before Macon's long run. And I know BG's backup middle LB (Basler) was in for Terrel White the previous OSU series. So we had back-ups in on both sides of the ball midway through the fourth quarter. OSU had their starting LB on the field with less than two minutes to play. Just making a counterpoint to your statement.

[Dayons_Den]

On Saturday, however, Ohio State had the second team in for a long time before Bowling Green did the same.

Just to nit-pick, I know Laurenitus was still in the game the last time BG had the ball because he made the takle on the play before Macon's long run. And I know BG's backup middle LB (Basler) was in for Terrel White the previous OSU series. So we had back-ups in on both sides of the ball midway through the fourth quarter. OSU had their starting LB on the field with less than two minutes to play. Just making a counterpoint to your statement.

From the play-by-play:

*Bgsu 2-6 at Bgsu18 Macon, Dan rush over left guard for 5 yards to the BGSU23 (Wilson, L;Laurinaitis, J).

*Bgsu 3-1 at Bgsu23 Macon, Dan rush up middle for 54 yards to the OSU23, 1ST DOWN BGSU (Washington, D).

You are correct Warthog.

[RobbyFalcon]

During the 4th and 6 from the 37 or wherever, I thought OSU would try to kick a long FG to give their kicker experience from that distance. When they went for it, I didn't think OSU was running it up. I swear I thought JT is taking care of the boosters who bet on OSU.

But I'm not Kreskin and not even he is.

Go BG!

[Peregrinner]

I gotta say that I really need to learn to wait a while after an emotional game like this before I start posting. Someone in another thread said there needs to be a mechanism for preventing posting while intoxicated, I think I need one that keeps me the heck away from my computer until a couple hours after a game.

And I want to heartily agree that we've had quite a few very classy OSU posters come around after the game and that's very much appreciated.

Again, my apologies and GO BG! BEAT THE EAGLES!

[Falconfreak90]

I didn't see a problem with Tressel going for it either time. Hell, we stopped OSU for a 4 yard loss on 4th and 1 near the end and OSU was 11 yards from 42-7.

Hey, OSU was the better team...especially that offense. NOBODY has an offense that potent in college ball. So many weapons with, IMO, the best QB in the country. That 34 yard run Smith made on 3rd and 25 was a killer. Ugh.

BUT, we ran on them pretty well and 340 yards of total offense on that D is definitely something to build on. These aholes at work that were predicting 63-3 and 57-0...I can't wait to see what they say tomorrow.

And this BG team is so young...the future looks brighter every minute.

On a side note, other than a couple drunken school boys' comments like "F*#K BG" and "BG SUCKS" (how original LOL), everyone was very pleasant before, during and after the game. While walking to the Shoe, a guy named Blain shared his beer with me. That was cool. When I told OSU fans how many freshman we're playing right now, they were surprised it was closer than most thought it would be. One guy said BG *should* be a hell of a team for the next few years. We stopped at a Bob Evans an hour north of Cbus for dinner and an OSU fan stopped by our booth and said "Your team played very well today. I didn't realize how much youth and inexperience BG had this year but they played hard". I thanked him for his comments.

I've been treated a whole lot worse at CMU and Marshall.

So, the Bucks game is over and we're 3-3, 2-1 MAC. Let's go out and win that East Title!!!

GO FALCONS!

GO FALCONS!! BEAT THE EAGLES!!

[It's the Journey...]

I don't have a problem with it either. He gave our D a chance to make a stop and they did. Way to make the big play guys. I would have been pissed if he would have. That would have been running up the score.

[tekekini]

On Saturday, however, Ohio State had the second team in for a long time before Bowling Green did the same.

Just to nit-pick, I know Laurenitus was still in the game the last time BG had the ball because he made the takle on the play before Macon's long run. And I know BG's backup middle LB (Basler) was in for Terrel White the previous OSU series. So we had back-ups in on both sides of the ball midway through the fourth quarter. OSU had their starting LB on the field with less than two minutes to play. Just making a counterpoint to your statement.

From the play-by-play:

*Bgsu 2-6 at Bgsu18 Macon, Dan rush over left guard for 5 yards to the BGSU23 (Wilson, L;Laurinaitis, J).

*Bgsu 3-1 at Bgsu23 Macon, Dan rush up middle for 54 yards to the OSU23, 1ST DOWN BGSU (Washington, D).

You are correct Warthog.

nit picking...so what...they are trying to get the D as many plays as they can as they are still improving every week.. every play is that much more experience.