Attendance Issue Clarification?

[Falcon30]

Paid/Actual attendance:

Wisconsin 22,460/30,307
Buffalo 8,459/14,227
Kent 10,635/12,967
EMU 11,413/14,525

30307+14227+12967+14525=72026

72026 / 4 = 18006.5

75000 students for 5 games =15000 per game

hence, we need 2974 at the Miami game.

[BGDrew]

I believe BG uses the paid attendance which actually equates to around 13,200 per game. We are going to need a near capacity crowd to get 15k for the year.

[TG1996]

The thing I don't get is if we can count students as paid attendance, and report just the paid attendance, why don't we just report that every student on campus attended the game?

[Jacobs4Heisman]

The thing I don't get is if we can count students as paid attendance, and report just the paid attendance, why don't we just report that every student on campus attended the game?

It seems that nearly every other school in the country has figured this, or something like it, out.

We're just slow I guess. If we end up forfeiting a bowl game because of our incompetence, about 100 people need to get axed.

[BGDrew]

The thing I don't get is if we can count students as paid attendance, and report just the paid attendance, why don't we just report that every student on campus attended the game?

I've been a little frustrated with the AD for this very reason. They've been very quiet about the whole situation and it's been eerily quiet regarding promotions for the game.

P.S.: No one in the AD never got back to me about my "orange out" idea. Another issue which has bothered me.

[Warthog]

Paid/Actual attendance:

Wisconsin 22,460/30,307
Buffalo 8,459/14,227
Kent 10,635/12,967
EMU 11,413/14,525

30307+14227+12967+14525=72026

72026 / 4 = 18006.5

75000 students for 5 games =15000 per game

hence, we need 2974 at the Miami game.

30, you made a leap in thinking that "Announced" attendance equals "Actual" attendance. That is where your error lies. I believe Announced attendance include ALL tickets given out for promotions and to sponsors. All of the tickets can be used in the "Paid" attendance only if everyone of those tickets is used. Again, we have to report "Paid" or "Actual" to the NCAA, not the "Announced".

For example, let's say Marcos is given 100 tickets for being a sponsor. All 100 of those tickets must be used for all 100 to count in the paid number. So if 65 Marcos tickets are used, we would say Paid attendance is zero, Actual attendance is 65, Announced attendance is 100. I think.

But given all of that, I still can't figure out how our Paid attendance can be higher than the Actual.

[OhioCatFan]

. . . This might be the mark of DIVISONAL REALINGMEnT. IN that the NCAA will create a new divinson that separates D1 ie the BCS D! and the rest of D1.

This will not happen. The NCAA can't force it on any colleges that don't want it, and those non-BCS D1 schools don't want it. The NCAA had to take the teeth out of the attendance requirements for the reason's mentioned in the original MAC Report post and also the recent pressure put on the BCS guys by Congress. Remember the Congressional hearings? It was not a coincidence that the new BCS Bowl that will allow the highest ranked non-BCS team into a BCS Bowl came about shortly after the hearings.

[orangeandbrown]

Here's the solution they come up with @ EMU.

http://www.mlive.com/eagles/aanews/inde ... xml&coll=2

[hammb]

Here's the solution they come up with @ EMU.

Which is why, if we don't make it, everyone in our athletic department needs fired. There are clearly loopholes to this system, and it seems as though we're the only school that has not discovered how to exploit them.

[Warthog]

Here's the solution they come up with @ EMU.

http://www.mlive.com/eagles/aanews/inde ... xml&coll=2

I was thinking about something like this just this morning. We need approximately 22,000 in "paid" attendance. Using the $140 for 20 tickets deal average price of $7, that is $154,000 max that would need to be spent. Let's say we would expect about 7,000 paid irregardless. That would mean the Foundation would only need to purchase 15,000 tickets at $7 per, about $105,000. That seems reasonable to me.

[Tricky_Falcon]

I've been a little frustrated with the AD for this very reason. They've been very quiet about the whole situation and it's been eerily quiet regarding promotions for the game.

P.S.: No one in the AD never got back to me about my "orange out" idea. Another issue which has bothered me.

I'm not sure why the athletic department is waiting until the week of the game to start promoting it. If we think this is a big deal information should have been out for a few weeks to let people know and make plans.

[Warthog]

I'm not sure why the athletic department is waiting until the week of the game to start promoting it. If we think this is a big deal information should have been out for a few weeks to let people know and make plans.

There is a big half a page ad in the Sports section of the Blade today. "Stand up and be counted" is the theme. Student T-shirts, prize giveaways, MTV Campus Tour (don't know what this is), Thunderstix.

[Tricky_Falcon]

Oh, well that's good to hear they are doing something. I'm in Columbus and if I didn't read this board I wouldn't have a clue about the importance of this game.

[Flipper]

There seems to be a logical disconnect in this thread...some of us are saying there's no way the NCAA can drop us, others think they will, other think it's a conspiracy...

I think there must be some legitimacy to the notion we could be dropped...why else would the University be taking such pains to boost attendance?

I would prefer to call "it F you NCAA night" No matter how many people are actually ther, we should report an SRO crowd of 250,000. If anyone questions that number based on the ESPN 2 trelecast, tell them that the bathrooms were really crowded all night. We could also get the philosphy department to construct a treatise on the validity of the notion that limiting "attendance" to the number of people physically in the stadium is an artifical construct. Real attendance should include people who thought about the game that day or night, who drove by the stadium during the game, who were witihin site of the stadium during the game, who could hear the noise form the stadium during the game or were affected by some aspect of the game during the game.

I think it's just crazy enough to work...

[orangeandbrown]

Now correct me if I am wrong, but even if you believe we cannot be dropped, isn't one of the sanctions ineligibility for a bowl game? Isn't that bad enough?