Synthetic field cost?

[The Niz]

There's plenty of plastic in there too. I've played and marched on both, and in my personal experience real grass is always better. The worst sport by far on that fieldturf is baseball, trying to field ground balls and blocking low pitches behind the plate can be very difficult with little rubber chunks shooting up in your eyes.

[NWLB]

There's plenty of plastic in there too. I've played and marched on both, and in my personal experience real grass is always better. The worst sport by far on that fieldturf is baseball, trying to field ground balls and blocking low pitches behind the plate can be very difficult with little rubber chunks shooting up in your eyes.

Did the band march in the mud against Miami, and how did they like it?

[1987alum]

No artificial turf.

Watching the Miami game was awesome! Well, except for the final score ...

[Flipper]

Yes to artificial turf...no to misty romanticism. The Grass Heads amongst us...I'll call them the Grassites...cling to the notion that football on natural grass is the way it's supposed to be.

That's true if you live in a snowglobe set in 1978. For many of today's football fans and just about every kid we recruit, football is played on a clean surface that is uniformly consistent in all types of weather. It doesn't become a mud pit when it rains and those instrument toting vandals (yeah...it's a band..sure it is...criminal mischief is what it was) trod all over it. To them our little mosh pit looks low rent and cheesy.

Low rent and cheesy are adjectives that can often be applied to the manner in which the University approaches athletics facilities

[Schadenfreude]

That's true if you live in a snowglobe set in 1978.

The Cincinnati Reds played on carpet in 1978.

Haven't we learned from such tragedies?

For many of today's football fans and just about every kid we recruit, football is played on a clean surface that is uniformly consistent in all types of weather.

This plastic stuff just doesn't look right.

I've been to Peden Stadium in Athens. It's a picturesque place. The Hocking River burbles nearby. Hills are off in the distance. There are plenty of trees around.

Meanwhile, the field is this icky color of green that doesn't match anything else within eyesight.

It's not the same. It doesn't look the same. It's fake. It doesn't stain your pants green or brown. And, when it rains, it doesn't get muddy and I have a real deep problem with that. I really do. Mud is part of the game.

To put that crap in our football stadium is to remove the game we love from its roots -- which is played in all of the elements on the surface God gave us in places like Canton and Akron and Toledo and Cleveland and Columbus and Marion and Portsmouth.

That's the game. And it was a game built into America's past time on grass grown right here in Ohio.

There was a blizzard once in Chicago when the Portsmouth Spartans were about to square off with the Chicago Bears to break the tie and settle the NFL title. The weather was so bad (and NFL attendance in that era so MAC=like) they moved the game indoors to Chicago Stadium.

Did they put down a carpet?

Hell no. They put down dirt.

Forty years ago, football fans across America marveled at the insane weather conditions in the NFL title game beween the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers that spawned the phrase "frozen tundra."

If that game happened next week, I suspect half this board would bellyaching about how how unfair it was that T.O. slipped and fell a couple of times because his cleats couldn't get any traction.

Whaaaaaaa!

I firmly believe we should stay with grass. By doing so, we would be sending a firm message to the rest of the MAC that -- unlike them -- we aren't a bunch of crying whiny pussies.

On the other hand, maybe we are.

Maybe we should start serving crepes and brie at the stadium.

Maybe we should apply for a federal grant so we can invent fake ice for the hockey team to play on so they don't get cold.

Our football stadium has needs. A playing surface isn't one of them. We already have one, and it's a gift from God, made with His hands.

[orangeandbrown]

Brie? Are you kidding me? I'm there.

[NWLB]

OK, lets go Boise with this.

Somebody photoshop the field and show us what it would look like in Burnt Orange? Shot for the first field to be visible from the International Space Station.

Or for the mud lovers, how about Seal Brown, with Orange markings?

[transfer2BGSU]

Cue the Battle Hymn of the Republic

To put that crap in our football stadium is to remove the game we love from its roots -- which is played in all of the elements on the surface God gave us in places like Canton and Akron and Toledo and Cleveland and Columbus and Marion and Portsmouth.

That's the game. And it was a game built into America's past time on grass grown right here in Ohio.

There was a blizzard once in Chicago when the Portsmouth Spartans were about to square off with the Chicago Bears to break the tie and settle the NFL title. The weather was so bad (and NFL attendance in that era so MAC=like) they moved the game indoors to Chicago Stadium.

Did they put down a carpet?

Hell no. They put down dirt.

Forty years ago, football fans across America marveled at the insane weather conditions in the NFL title game beween the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers that spawned the phrase "frozen tundra."

If that game happened next week, I suspect half this board would bellyaching about how how unfair it was that T.O. slipped and fell a couple of times because his cleats couldn't get any traction.

Whaaaaaaa!

I firmly believe we should stay with grass. By doing so, we would be sending a firm message to the rest of the MAC that -- unlike them -- we aren't a bunch of crying whiny pussies.

On the other hand, maybe we are.

Maybe we should start serving crepes and brie at the stadium.

Maybe we should apply for a federal grant so we can invent fake ice for the hockey team to play on so they don't get cold.

Our football stadium has needs. A playing surface isn't one of them. We already have one, and it's a gift from God, made with His hands.

Post of the post-season. It is agreed - no artificial turf.

Man-law.

[Flipper]

That's true if you live in a snowglobe set in 1978.

The Cincinnati Reds played on carpet in 1978.

Haven't we learned from such tragedies?

For many of today's football fans and just about every kid we recruit, football is played on a clean surface that is uniformly consistent in all types of weather.

This plastic stuff just doesn't look right.

I've been to Peden Stadium in Athens. It's a picturesque place. The Hocking River burbles nearby. Hills are off in the distance. There are plenty of trees around.

Meanwhile, the field is this icky color of green that doesn't match anything else within eyesight.

It's not the same. It doesn't look the same. It's fake. It doesn't stain your pants green or brown. And, when it rains, it doesn't get muddy and I have a real deep problem with that. I really do. Mud is part of the game.

To put that crap in our football stadium is to remove the game we love from its roots -- which is played in all of the elements on the surface God gave us in places like Canton and Akron and Toledo and Cleveland and Columbus and Marion and Portsmouth.

That's the game. And it was a game built into America's past time on grass grown right here in Ohio.

There was a blizzard once in Chicago when the Portsmouth Spartans were about to square off with the Chicago Bears to break the tie and settle the NFL title. The weather was so bad (and NFL attendance in that era so MAC=like) they moved the game indoors to Chicago Stadium.

Did they put down a carpet?

Hell no. They put down dirt.

Forty years ago, football fans across America marveled at the insane weather conditions in the NFL title game beween the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers that spawned the phrase "frozen tundra."

If that game happened next week, I suspect half this board would bellyaching about how how unfair it was that T.O. slipped and fell a couple of times because his cleats couldn't get any traction.

Whaaaaaaa!

I firmly believe we should stay with grass. By doing so, we would be sending a firm message to the rest of the MAC that -- unlike them -- we aren't a bunch of crying whiny pussies.

On the other hand, maybe we are.

Maybe we should start serving crepes and brie at the stadium.

Maybe we should apply for a federal grant so we can invent fake ice for the hockey team to play on so they don't get cold.

Our football stadium has needs. A playing surface isn't one of them. We already have one, and it's a gift from God, made with His hands.

Spare me the macho head games...

We've made great strides as a culture since 1978. The Bay City Rollers have been hunted into extinction, white shoes + a white belt no longer equals high fashion and Pete Rose is greeted with the derision and scorn he so richly earned on that very same RIverfront Stadium carpet you alluded to.

The stadium's gone, Pete's a goner and grass should be used only as a dietary supplement for the grain fed cheerleaders at the University of Toledo.

If you want to roll around in the mud, find a chick with hairy legs and join the green party...I'm sure she'll be glad to wet down a patch of dirt and play a little "three and out" football with you.

As for me...I don't want our highly trained scholar athletes mucking around in the mud like some primitive man-pig. Before long, people will begin to throw feces at one another and then , my friend, we'll be no better than Marshall.

Artificial grass is the wave of the future. Like antibiotics, color television and free internet porn, it's a vast improvement over the options those before us had to deal with

Embrace the future, put the past in the rearview and get with the program. We're in the 21st century now....

....damn hippies....

[jacojdm]

Maybe we should apply for a federal grant so we can invent fake ice for the hockey team to play on so they don't get cold.

No need. The Great Lakes Science Center has an artificial ice rink.

http://www.glsc.org/visit/upcoming.php?id=315

There are similar rinks in place around the world.


Oh, and I prefer grass to the fake stuff.

[Bleeding Orange]

Maybe we should apply for a federal grant so we can invent fake ice for the hockey team to play on so they don't get cold.

No need. The Great Lakes Science Center has an artificial ice rink.

http://www.glsc.org/visit/upcoming.php?id=315

There are similar rinks in place around the world.


Oh, and I prefer grass to the fake stuff.

The fake ice website:

http://www.interice.cz/en/vlastnosti.html

Leave it up to a buncha commies to come up with this!

[The Niz]

There's plenty of plastic in there too. I've played and marched on both, and in my personal experience real grass is always better. The worst sport by far on that fieldturf is baseball, trying to field ground balls and blocking low pitches behind the plate can be very difficult with little rubber chunks shooting up in your eyes.

Did the band march in the mud against Miami, and how did they like it?

We did, and we hated it, how many of us have been whining about it though?

[NWLB]

There's plenty of plastic in there too. I've played and marched on both, and in my personal experience real grass is always better. The worst sport by far on that fieldturf is baseball, trying to field ground balls and blocking low pitches behind the plate can be very difficult with little rubber chunks shooting up in your eyes.

Did the band march in the mud against Miami, and how did they like it?

We did, and we hated it, how many of us have been whining about it though?

Ah, I see. You guys are more nuts than the team!

[The Niz]

Exactly

[[+Duracell-]]

Exactly

I concur with this man

Oh wait, I'm part of the band too >_>