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- roguewarrior
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I agree with 33 on Osborne. I pointed him out earlier. Good player and better kid. Luckily, he is our QBs good friend, or we wouldn’t have him. I won’t comment on a few of the others, where they do have on field talent. I’ll let that unfold.
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IIRC, Loeffler is against one and done transfers? So Grad and JUCO transfers. Obviously with the one time transfer policy, everything has changed and coaches have to adapt.
Anyone knows how many transfers brought in that count against '22 class? That will take away from initial count. I am very doubtful they can sign 32 guys for '22 class.
Anyone knows how many transfers brought in that count against '22 class? That will take away from initial count. I am very doubtful they can sign 32 guys for '22 class.
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That would be a good coaches show question, VS whats your favorite color? Ha
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Wow, someone really asked that?roguewarrior wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:48 pm That would be a good coaches show question, VS whats your favorite color? Ha
- jpfalcon09
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Rules as they stand allow for 25 max. Transfers count against that number. There's been discussions about amending this, basically allowing programs extra players to come in based on the outbound transfers. Example - if you have 7 players transfer out and can accommodate the typical 25 max class, your max now goes up to 32. There was a conversation about this in a different thread.Tony4BG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:41 pm IIRC, Loeffler is against one and done transfers? So Grad and JUCO transfers. Obviously with the one time transfer policy, everything has changed and coaches have to adapt.
Anyone knows how many transfers brought in that count against '22 class? That will take away from initial count. I am very doubtful they can sign 32 guys for '22 class.
As it stands right now, programs who experience severe attrition (like BG did) are going to suffer because you cannot simply replace a mass exodus in one class. Either you go full rebuild, or bring in kids who are going to have an immediate impact but you only get two years of them. Really a lose-lose situation.
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25 plus 7 one time exception was approved already, I thought??
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Hadn't seen that. I'd like to see it become permanent, or at least last until the covid kids are cycled out with their free year of eligibility. Things are still going to be crazy until 2024-25. Hockey had this problem last year.
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I would wager the initial count will change moving forward into '23
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I'd be willing to bet a position we're for sure going to add a transfer or two will be on the OL. We're starting 4 freshmen and 1 converted DL there and it's easily our biggest position of need. Right now we're struggling to run block and we can't hold up in pass pro. We must inject some proven and experienced guys there to go with all the youth. And remember, aside from having a slew of freshmen on the OL depth chart, we've also lost a few transfers out this fall (Carroll, Kilbane and O'Brian are all gone) and had a player have to medically retire (Neverov) - all of which has further hampered the unit. It's a position of great need of some help. And frankly, we simply can't afford to wait for the OL to mature all on its own. Without a doubt we have to help the unit out in the offseason.
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I absolutely agree, we must add some starter-quality guys to the offensive line room this offseason. The ability to run the ball would completely change the way our offense can operate. We know we have a lot of talent in the RB room, so getting those guys the ball (and therefore making sure Matt/any QB doesn't have to chuck it 35 times a game) would be huge for us.BGSU33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:30 pm I'd be willing to bet a position we're for sure going to add a transfer or two will be on the OL. We're starting 4 freshmen and 1 converted DL there and it's easily our biggest position of need. Right now we're struggling to run block and we can't hold up in pass pro. We must inject some proven and experienced guys there to go with all the youth. And remember, aside from having a slew of freshmen on the OL depth chart, we've also lost a few transfers out this fall (Carroll, Kilbane and O'Brian are all gone) and had a player have to medically retire (Neverov) - all of which has further hampered the unit. It's a position of great need of some help. And frankly, we simply can't afford to wait for the OL to mature all on its own. Without a doubt we have to help the unit out in the offseason.
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The urgency to add starting quality OL transfers SHOULD have been there LAST offseason. Now that we've watched another season of getting destroyed off the ball by pretty much every opponent it should be even more obvious.
I just don't get it. I cannot stand Loeffler's offensive plan/philosophy. But if you ARE going to succeed with this style of offense the 5 starters on the OL are probably 5 of the 6-7 most important players on offense. QB is always key no matter what you're trying to do, but when you want to run the ball and run long developing pass plays your OL simply must be well above average across the board. And yet it was basically ignored this past offseason.
Tack it on as another thing that simply makes zero sense with how this program has been run. But yes, if they're going to improve next year they absolutely need to bring in more OL that are starting caliber. If the returning starters improve and can hold onto the jobs, great, but competition (and NOT 18 yr old HS competition) is absolutely needed in the OL room.
I just don't get it. I cannot stand Loeffler's offensive plan/philosophy. But if you ARE going to succeed with this style of offense the 5 starters on the OL are probably 5 of the 6-7 most important players on offense. QB is always key no matter what you're trying to do, but when you want to run the ball and run long developing pass plays your OL simply must be well above average across the board. And yet it was basically ignored this past offseason.
Tack it on as another thing that simply makes zero sense with how this program has been run. But yes, if they're going to improve next year they absolutely need to bring in more OL that are starting caliber. If the returning starters improve and can hold onto the jobs, great, but competition (and NOT 18 yr old HS competition) is absolutely needed in the OL room.
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So we're going to embrace the transfer portal and assume that we're going to have a fair amount of guys coming and going each season. That would seem to support the argument that running a more complex, slow developing system is a bad idea. Takes too long to teach and who knows if the guy's you're teaching it to will even be there next year.
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This really is the bottom line. They run an offensive system that blows, and he does it very poorly to boot.Flipper wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:33 am So we're going to embrace the transfer portal and assume that we're going to have a fair amount of guys coming and going each season. That would seem to support the argument that running a more complex, slow developing system is a bad idea. Takes too long to teach and who knows if the guy's you're teaching it to will even be there next year.
Watch this week: We will come out and drive well the first series or two. When it is scripted, off studying the film. See what happens later, second half, when adjustments take place.
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Early in the season (maybe after the South Alabama game), Loeffler spoke of adding transfers to the offensive line on his weekly radio show. I'm certain he will.BGSU33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:30 pm I'd be willing to bet a position we're for sure going to add a transfer or two will be on the OL. We're starting 4 freshmen and 1 converted DL there and it's easily our biggest position of need. Right now we're struggling to run block and we can't hold up in pass pro. We must inject some proven and experienced guys there to go with all the youth. And remember, aside from having a slew of freshmen on the OL depth chart, we've also lost a few transfers out this fall (Carroll, Kilbane and O'Brian are all gone) and had a player have to medically retire (Neverov) - all of which has further hampered the unit. It's a position of great need of some help. And frankly, we simply can't afford to wait for the OL to mature all on its own. Without a doubt we have to help the unit out in the offseason.
I know Hammb has long been of the view Loeffler should have grabbed some transfers for the offensive line before the season started, but I'm not convinced this is so. It may well be that Loeffler and Malone thought they had the offensive linemen on the team they needed, but that something changed between January and August.
I also recognize Loeffler only had so many grants-in-aid to award. If he would have added two transfers on the offensive line, that's two fewer players we would have had somewhere else. What if one of those O-line transfers came at the expense of Davon Ferguson (for example), or the potential of bringing in a future Davon Ferguson as a redshirt freshman?
My assumption that I do not know more about running an FBS program than the guy we pay to do it. I assume Loeffler had his reasons for not getting some transfers in on the O-line, but I can only speculate on what they were.
On the other hand, I do not need to be an FBS football coach to know what we saw against Eastern Michigan was a step in the wrong direction.
I really do hope Loeffler and this team can course correct.
