BTW, when I said I doubt there are any legit 4.3 guys out there, I am using my math knowledge which says 4.3 = 4.3000 So when I say a legit 4.3 guy I'm talking <= 4.30, and there are very few players that can run that fast.
I'm not a big 40 guy anyways. I am more concerned about seeing how somebody plays than how fast they run in shorts. I have seen many a player who is supposedly lightning in shorts that seems to lose a lot with the pads on. Of course the opposite is true as well.
For instance, the aforementioned lead-foot, on the track, Clarett. How many times did he get caught from behind on the football field? I cannot think of one...
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I think 40 times are useless. I am with hammb in that I believe in "football speed", which involves how fast you can think and then get your body to do what you want it to do. Some guys can flat out fly, but if they aren't smart enough to use that to get in postion to make a play, it is useless.
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I think a 40 time is useful for WR's and CB's...a little less so for safeties and RB's. Every team needs at least one WR who can run a fly and every team needs at least one CB to stay wiht thaqt guy. Other than that, I don't think its nearly as useful as looking at agility drills, broad jumps, vertical leaps and strength.
I'd rather have a guy that performs well in tests that measure explosive strength and agility than straight line speed. Of course, if neither of them can be molded into an NFL caliber player, I don't want either.
I'd rather have a guy that performs well in tests that measure explosive strength and agility than straight line speed. Of course, if neither of them can be molded into an NFL caliber player, I don't want either.
Flipper wrote:I don't think its nearly as useful as looking at agility drills, broad jumps, vertical leaps and strength.
I'd rather have a guy that performs well in tests that measure explosive strength and agility than straight line speed.
Gee... A guy named Cole comes to mind...
I agree that shuttle times tell more than 40 speed. A guy that can change direction on a dime is the guy that can get open or put a move on someone to get around them.

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Wouldn't less than a 4.30 be a 4.2 then hamms?hammb wrote:BTW, when I said I doubt there are any legit 4.3 guys out there, I am using my math knowledge which says 4.3 = 4.3000 So when I say a legit 4.3 guy I'm talking <= 4.30, and there are very few players that can run that fast.
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No.duckunder53 wrote:Wouldn't less than a 4.30 be a 4.2 then hamms?hammb wrote:BTW, when I said I doubt there are any legit 4.3 guys out there, I am using my math knowledge which says 4.3 = 4.3000 So when I say a legit 4.3 guy I'm talking <= 4.30, and there are very few players that can run that fast.
When Bannister ran the 4 minute mile, it was 3:59. All the guys who had run 4:02 or whatever, were not considered to have run a 4 minute mile. If a guy runs a 4.29 forty that is not a 4.2. You could say he ran a sub 4.3 forty, or a 4.3 forty. You wouldn't say he ran a 4.2, because he didn't, he ran a 4.29.
May sound like I'm picking nits, but I think this is one reason players get published times that are much faster than they really are. Somebody runs a 4.45. First reporter reports that the guy ran a 4.4. The next reporter reads that and assumes it means he broke 4.4, so he publishes that the guy ran a sub 4.4. Now another Reporter hypothesizes that means about a 3.9 or so. Now because of this misunderstanding the guy has shaved .06 off his forty time, which can mean a big difference (not that it should).
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There are some 4.3 guys on this team at the WR/DB positions. Since Meyer started recruiting and after, speed players have been attained. This speed has been a part of the reason for BG success. There are a few high school track standouts on the roster. The real times aren't seen until they do a workout for pros. Meyers first recruiting class was this past years Sr. class, but he didn't have early recruiting for that class. The upcoming Sr. class is the first class where these coaches (Urban, Brandon, etc.) were involved in the early process.
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If your son ran a 4.35 back in HS and he's says he's faster now college , that is a testiment to strength coach Hillman and Co.! I would hope that we'd have a few player than run a 4.3 or atleast very close to it. I wonder what Sharon runs? Someone said that Dan Macon is the fastest guy on the team, if he's faster than Partridge and Lett who also was said to be the fastest player than wow! I am intested in seeing how Macon is coming along as he's probably in the forfront to take over for Pope and Lane.
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