WED 10am est congressional hearing on BCS

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I don't think he's saying that. I think he's saying that wasting time is SOP for Congress.
EXACTLY! Why does that make this OK?
I'm not saying it makes anything okay. The fact of the matter is that you and I are not legislators, though. I happen to be familiar with the Congressional Record (which was the Globe in antiquity) and the workings of Congress simply because of my chosen profession. It is hard to pull a lot of things together from the CR together, but in the long run, much of what they do directly impacts seemingly unrelated legislation later on. The "civics lesson" (sorry, I didn't mean for that to sound condescending at all) was intended to just give you an idea of why Congress might be interested in a possible trust in the BCS.

Just to give you some idea of the ammount of time legislators can spend on a single issue, there was a Special Senate Commission in 1864 headed by Sen. James Doolittle (R - Kansas) founded to investigate the state of Indian affairs in the American West. Doolittle and a handfull of other Senators felt that the most effective way for them to investigate such problems as Indian abuse and patronage in the Bureau of Indian Affairs (just to name a few) was to litterally head out West and investigate for themselves. What became known as the Doolittle Commission (this group of Senators) headed out west for nearly a year, broke into sub-commissions and investigated every region of the West, interviewing military officials, Indian Agents and Indians themselves. The entire time they were away from Washington, and when they returned they spent nearly two years compiling what would become known as the "Doolittle Report." This report is one of the most important documents in the history of 19th century Indian affairs, and although it was not well recieved at the time, it did have some tangible and lasting effects.

You can argue the merit of investigating Indian affairs vs. investigating the BCS, but I don't think that is wholly constructive. The simple fact of the matter is that, in order for legislators to effectively legislate at the national level, they must be informed about a plethora of issues, and sub-committees are the way that they do it. Reports from sub-committees which are made up of only a handful of legislators go to the entire legislative body to inform all Congressmen and/or Senators before they make a voting decision, and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of sub-committee reports produced every year on topics ranging from the merits of a Circuit Court Judicial appointee, to the state of crawfish spawning in the Red River Basin, to the nation's preparedness for a terror attack. It is just the nature of Congress.
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Well, I think this is a huge health concern. Just think of all the increased blood pressures the BCS has caused.

I would like to make a motion to discuss the Big Leasts involvement in the BCS. That's the real crime!

Yes, congress should be working on other things like regulating cable and satellite radio?????????

p.s. I wish I could listen. How is it going?
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Falcon52 wrote:BleedingOrangeRedWhite&Blue.
Huh? I was just sayin'...
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Falcon52 wrote:BleedingOrangeRedWhite&Blue.
Huh? I was just sayin'...
Sure you were. You just have to come on here and put a historical/civical spin on everything don't you. Like we want to here about some Injin expedition in 1864. Where's the significance uh. Maybe had you thrown in some biological science then folks would understand where you're coming from. :roll: :wink:
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This all brings me back to a famous line by a great political mind, Gallager once said

"If the opposite of Pro is Con, then the opposite of Progress is Congress!"
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PGY Tiercel wrote:
Bleeding Orange wrote:
Falcon52 wrote:BleedingOrangeRedWhite&Blue.
Huh? I was just sayin'...
Sure you were. You just have to come on here and put a historical/civical spin on everything don't you. Like we want to here about some Injin expedition in 1864. Where's the significance uh. Maybe had you thrown in some biological science then folks would understand where you're coming from. :roll: :wink:
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Yeah, sorry 'bout that! :P
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Spart43 wrote:This all brings me back to a famous line by a great political mind, Gallager once said

"If the opposite of Pro is Con, then the opposite of Progress is Congress!"
And then he smashed a watermellon with a giant hammer.
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Bleeding Orange wrote:
Spart43 wrote:This all brings me back to a famous line by a great political mind, Gallager once said

"If the opposite of Pro is Con, then the opposite of Progress is Congress!"
And then he smashed a watermellon with a giant hammer.

Now I can't get the image of Dave Chapelle dressed as Gallager out of my head. Thanks a bunch you bastard of a historian.
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Wise man that Gallagher...

BleedOrange, I guess I can concede that mabey, perhaps, by some remote chance, the workings and finances of the BCS and College Football might have some relevance, at some point, to some issue(s) that matters to... well... real people. I can't imagine what it might be, but I guess I can't totally rule it out until the end of time.

And, as you might have guessed by now, I take issue with many aspects of our government - Congress just seems to be the most self rightious and wasteful. With that said, I just can't get past this being a hot topic that is going to get everyone's name in the news and a chance to grandstand on national television. Again, it's only my opinion, but I would say 80% of the motivation behind this is grandstanding (on my dime).

I could be wrong.
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JWEIII wrote:Wise man that Gallagher...

BleedOrange, I guess I can concede that mabey, perhaps, by some remote chance, the workings and finances of the BCS and College Football might have some relevance, at some point, to some issue(s) that matters to... well... real people. I can't imagine what it might be, but I guess I can't totally rule it out until the end of time.

And, as you might have guessed by now, I take issue with many aspects of our government - Congress just seems to be the most self rightious and wasteful. With that said, I just can't get past this being a hot topic that is going to get everyone's name in the news and a chance to grandstand on national television. Again, it's only my opinion, but I would say 80% of the motivation behind this is grandstanding (on my dime).

I could be wrong.

Most of it most likely is grandstanding But I hate the BCS and I think it is bad for schools like BG so, have at it Washington.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Now I can't get the image of Dave Chapelle dressed as Gallager out of my head. Thanks a bunch you bastard of a historian.
Just to make sure it stays there.

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UK Peregrine wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Now I can't get the image of Dave Chapelle dressed as Gallager out of my head. Thanks a bunch you bastard of a historian.
Just to make sure it stays there.

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So now there's a historian bastard and a scientist bastard both trying to ruin my sex life. Wondrous development.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
UK Peregrine wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Now I can't get the image of Dave Chapelle dressed as Gallager out of my head. Thanks a bunch you bastard of a historian.
Just to make sure it stays there.

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So now there's a historian bastard and a scientist bastard both trying to ruin my sex life. Wondrous development.
The conspiracy runs much deeper than that, I assure you. 8)
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