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Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:18 pm

Going from LB to DE? I don't think that is such a big deal. Going from DB to LB? That's a lot more drastic.

tiznow · Post by **tiznow** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:39 pm

Warthog wrote:Going from LB to DE? I don't think that is such a big deal. Going from DB to LB? That's a lot more drastic.

Both instances involve putting on weight. Why is one more drastic than the other?

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:28 pm

LBs and DEs play "on the line". They take a beating getting hit every down. Fighting off blockers on every play. It's not about the weight. It's about the physical toll it takes to play a position on the line.

DBs run around in space and rarely take on a blocker head up, man on man. They have guys coming at them, but they are moving as well and do not take a solid shot from a 300 lb lineman very often. LBs and DLs take that on every down.

Falconboy · Post by **Falconboy** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:29 pm

tiznow wrote:
Warthog wrote:Going from LB to DE? I don't think that is such a big deal. Going from DB to LB? That's a lot more drastic.
Both instances involve putting on weight. Why is one more drastic than the other?

Because in the instances of LB's and DE's usually the weights and overall size of DE's and LB's are usually far apart and they have to go up against the same type of offensive players ie , OT's , pulling OG's and TE's. DB's are really for passing defense and last ditch defense on a busted run.

tiznow · Post by **tiznow** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:44 pm

Warthog and Falconboy, I respectfully disagree on it being a drastic difference.

Of the top of my head, I remember Andre Collins from Penn State. He played DB for his first two seasons at Penn State. Paterno moved him to linebacker his junior year. He became an All -American and went to have a very solid career in the NFL. This happened at linebacker U.

My point is Brandon is not the only coach to do this. This happens at other schools and it will go on on campuses during spring ball.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:48 pm

Of course, there is always an exception.

But I will stand by my statement that LB and DE are much more physically taxing than DB.

Falconboy · Post by **Falconboy** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:50 pm

tiznow wrote:Warthog and Falconboy, I respectfully disagree on it being a drastic difference.

Of the top of my head, I remember Andre Collins from Penn State. He played DB for his first two seasons at Penn State. Paterno moved him to linebacker his junior year. He became an All -American and went to have a very solid career in the NFL. This happened at linebacker U.

My point is Brandon is not the only coach to do this. This happens at other schools and it will go on on campuses during spring ball.

Ok, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this DB was likely a pretty big safety and was moved to an OLB position for speed. B10 safeties are pretty big these days and many could be bulked up a little and moved to LB and it would work. The size of the safeties we talking about here at BG are corner sized in the B10 and don't translate well to the physicality of the LB position.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:57 pm

You're talking out of your ass falconboy. The three primary examples of DB's who became LB's here are Dozier, Carswell and Hargrove. If you think they weren't physical enough to play LB at this level you must be, for lack of a better word...insane

The jury is out on guys like Woods, Marshall and Sanderson because they haven't played there enough (or at all) to really get a feel for who they'll handle the switch.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:01 pm

For all of the things that Brandon can be questioned for, switching player positions has to be one where he gets a huge pass on and the benefit of the doubt for future moves. Other then Pete Winovich, I cant name a player who flipped spots and wasn't a huge success. And if they weren't he moved them right back. This is just him trying to get our best players on the field. I do, however, think it leaves us a bit thin at safety now. Which is not something that he has done in the past so I assume he knows more than us. Who are the backups?